The media appears to have moved on to the General Election.

[MineralMan]

So have I. It's time to begin thinking about GOTV efforts for November. If we do that right, we will have a landslide win that will set the Republican Party back on its heels for many years to come.

Hillary 2016!

[HumanityExperiment]

1. DEM convention...

should be fun, I look forward to the 'battles' there

[MineralMan]

2. And I'll be looking forward to Hillary's speech after her nomination.

Everyone is looking for different things at the convention, I suppose.

[HumanityExperiment]

13. ...principle...

Every DEM should be concerned with the party principles, this convention should turn more heads in that direction I suppose

the era of shifting right will hopefully conclude this convention

hope to get your support in that imitative and getting DEM party back to it's 'roots'

[MyNameGoesHere]

45. What roots?

My party is ever changing. What you mean I believe is that you want to see it shift to your views. Your roots. It's a fatal flaw and why the Sanders party won't be joining anymore reindeer games.

[HumanityExperiment]

49. Shift right will be stopped

this is not a liberal/progressive position,

DEM party foundation, it's roots, it's genesis is of liberal/progressive ideology

[MyNameGoesHere]

69. You're history is wrong

The party has never been rooted in strict ideology, and has never been strictly liberal and progressive. Your statement is the same line as I want my country back. What country? The one that fits your needs?

[HumanityExperiment]

72. you're entitled to your own perception but you're not entitled to you own facts...

who said 'strict', I stated liberal/progressive

is this a liberal / progressive position?

[auntpurl]

3. What battle?

[NCTraveler]

9. The one they think....

Sanders is going to put up after losing to the tune of millions of votes and hundreds of delegates.

[HumanityExperiment]

14. ...DEM liberal/progressive principles...

platform battle

[auntpurl]

18. You know the platform is meaningless, right?

It's a nice document in theory, but it holds no legal weight.

[HumanityExperiment]

21. then explain why the uproar over all the spots conceded to Bernie...

...on that committee?

[auntpurl]

27. Because he lost, by a lot

So a lot of people think he shouldn't have a say in anything. I'm not saying I agree, just saying that's why people were upset.

[HumanityExperiment]

35. ...influence and impact...

peruse the DU posts by HRC supporters here and re-read your post, he didn't lose 'by a lot', but you're entitled to your own opinion, just not your own facts

Bernie has many HRC supporters afraid, he def. has the DEM establishment afraid

Convention places DEM party front and center and establishment desperately needs folks to be in lock step... Bernie is not.. that scares establishment...

it will be interesting to watch the narrative develop as we close in on convention and through it

[LoverOfLiberty]

68. Historically speaking

yes, he did lose by a lot.

[HumanityExperiment]

71. from 3%... historically speaking

n/t

[LoverOfLiberty]

73. might even call it

a spanking.

[HumanityExperiment]

75. convention is going to be a hoot...

I'm looking forward to how strongly DEM establishment will take the 'irrelevant' angle with Bernie and the movement

have a day!

[LoverOfLiberty]

78. Hoping it will be a riot?

[HumanityExperiment]

79. Did I state that?

sounds like you are hoping in that direction...

[brush]

29. It's a necessary thing that has to be done. It's been meaningless for a long time now

After the election it hardly ever comes up.

[HumanityExperiment]

33. ...has this primary been consistent with prior cycles or is this one very different?...

n/t

[brush]

47. Not that different. Hillary actually put up a stronger fight against Obama in '08

And she conceded and asked that Obama be declared the nominee by acclamation before a first ballot was even taken.

[HumanityExperiment]

51. both sides current activity prove this primary cycle to very different

n/t

[brush]

60. Guess you didn't know. The race in '08 was much closer. Google it.

[HumanityExperiment]

62. facts...

this primary cycle is nothing like the '08

but feel free to continue with the belief that it is

[brush]

64. Ok, it's different. We had a former independent run as a Dem.

It was a competitive contest, but not as close as '08 though.

He tries a hostile takeover but it didn't work.

[HumanityExperiment]

67. that's one side... the GOP has their own flavor boiling over

the fact that there's an undercurrent, or rip tide, that's tearing at the fabric of both parties should be acknowledged

What's 'hostile' is the establishment's response to Bernie and the movement...

Odd you're still trying to be dismissive of Bernie and the movement though... how's that working out for ya?

[brush]

70. I said in my previous post that I hope the movement continues

Did you not get that?

But the movement needs someone to actually start organizing. Who is doing that?

Why don't you do something? Start calling, texting and tweeting and get something going?

[MineralMan]

34. What uproar? He gets a few people on the committee.

A minority. There's no reason not to give his priorities a hearing. No uproar.

[HumanityExperiment]

40. ...perception...

unprecedented amount of folks to be exact

DEM party NEEDS Bernie, Bernie doesn't need DEM party at this point, the movement doesn't need DEM party but the DEM party needs the movement

convention will be a battle over what principles DEM party will adhere to, this shift right will stop, the movement will address that directly, how the establishment plays to that movement will be fun to watch

[tonyt53]

6. There won't be any, except for maybe outside.

By the time all of the delegates are counted, Hillary's win will drown out any Sanders supporters. It really is that overwhelming. Outside though, Sanders supporters might be in for a real ass-kicking.

[HumanityExperiment]

15. ...sure about that?...

n/t

[tonyt53]

19. 100%. The building trades unions have all supported Hillary from the get go.

Those same building trade unions all plan on having a huge presence in Philly. They won't take kindly to threats of chairs being thrown at them. 100% sure.

[HumanityExperiment]

23. really?...

so you're projecting what occurred in NV onto DEM convention? really?

convention will be fun to watch establishment scramble to try to contain what's coming... their current actions made by DNC are telling...

the movement and it's message clearly has impacted DNC

[bonemachine]

28. no...

Tony is projecting things that DIDN'T happen in NV onto the convention

[brush]

31. Conventions are pretty scripted. There won't be any chances taken . . .

with a Sanders speech unless he concedes before hand. He won't be allowed to get up and make a stump speech and try to switch the super delegates.

That just won't happen.

[HumanityExperiment]

38. ...scripts...

this is not within DEM establishment's control...

FEAR

Bernie doesn't NEED the DEM party, the DEM party needs Bernie to close out the primary loop... see how this works?

this movement doesn't need DEM party but the DEM party needs this movement

[brush]

44. A recent poll showed that 70% of Sanders supporters will vote for Clinton

As will the Obama coalition that elected him twice.

You and Sanders better get on board or get left behind.

The primary is over. The general election campaign has begun. Notice how little mention is made of Sanders now by the media.

It's all Clinton and Trump now, and Trump is taking a beating.

[HumanityExperiment]

48. DEM party needs Bernie, Bernie doesn't need DEM party

movement doesn't need DEM party but the party def. needs movement

[brush]

50. Is that why he lost? The Dem party decided who it wanted at the top of the ticket.

[HumanityExperiment]

53. What did Bernie actually 'lose'?

SDs assured establishment's claim to nominee it wanted so there is that going for ya....

Bernie and this movement doesn't need DEM party but, the DEM party does need Bernie and the movement

[brush]

55. In thread after thread and post after post you keep saying the Dem party needs Bernie . . .

and his movement, but the Dem party is moving on, as witnessed by Clinton, not Bernie, winning the nomination.

She will beat Trump, whose campaign is cratering.

Bernie better get on board or he'll be forgotten.

I do hope the movement continues though. But I'm not hearing anything about actual plans to form an actual organizational structure. All we hear is "it's a movement".

What's up with that?

[HumanityExperiment]

58. nothing you replied with changes fact...

DEM party needs Bernie and the movement

the only thing 'forgotten' is DEM establishment understanding of DEM party liberal/progressive roots, Bernie and the movement are here to rectify that

Activism isn't about 'organizational structure', it's about changing the status quo

[brush]

61. You can't change the statue quo without an organization and planning

Rhetoric and idealism by themselves don't cut it.

Occupy had no structure and look what happened to them. This is not ancient history. Learn from that and create a viable organization.

[HumanityExperiment]

65. direct and pointed activism...

you're entitled to your own perception but you're not entitled to you own facts...

let's see how this plays out and who is correct when this is all said and done shall we

[brush]

74. So what are you saying? This Sanders movement is not going to actually. . .

form into something more than words?

[HumanityExperiment]

76. does anything I have to say or post really factor into your perception at this point?...

I highly doubt it... have a day!

[brush]

77. Why are you avoiding this? I'm in favor of a movment continuing.

I'll ask a direct question. Are you planning to participate in forming and working to build this movement?

I'm challenging you to be about something more than words.

[Hortensis]

10. Sure. The media will backtrack briefly for that.

Hey, for GE chuckles, the de-credentialed WaPo's on-line edition has several Trump-unfriendly headers/articles; and Trump now says barring people on "the lists" from buying guns, even though the NRA has already endorsed him. They must be very upset, bless their black, atrophied little hearts....

[KingFlorez]

17. There will be no battles

Clinton will be declared the nominee on the first ballot and there will be no contested convention.

[HumanityExperiment]

20. ...you sure about that?...

n/t

[KingFlorez]

25. I'm very sure

Considering that there will be no second ballot or even a reason for one, there will be no contested convention.

[HumanityExperiment]

32. that's not the battle

n/t

[NCTraveler]

4. Just about everyone has. nt.

[MineralMan]

12. And very soon, DU will, too.

[Nonhlanhla]

5. Well, that would be because the primaries are over

and the nominees are elected. Only the formalities at the conventions remain.

Somebody should inform Bernie of this, by the way.

[tonyt53]

8. Jane doesn't let him read the papers.

[RandySF]

7. The party and the country have moved on.

[CrowCityDem]

11. As they should after a decisive victory. There's nothing important left to talk about with Bernie.

[Surya Gayatri]

16. Yep, Bernie copy is dwindling by the day. He hardly gets a mention in the 24 hr. cycle now.

What a breath of fresh air. No more bellowing Bern, no more Jane Err, no more wacko Weaver.

Ouf!!!!

[KansDem]

37. He barely got a mention in previous 24 hr. cycles...

[stonecutter357]

22. good

[rjsquirrel]

24. All but the last crazed radicals

are moving on.

Bernie is flirting with irrelevance the longer he holds out on endorsing and stepping aside.

[Demsrule86]

26. You are right. nt

[bvf]

30. Yes! Go, Media!

[KansDem]

36. We're all looking forward to November!!

[Lil Missy]

39. As they should - "move on to the GE".

[yodermon]

41. Equally (if not more) important is the Senate and House.

If Repugs retain the Senate and/or the House they will probably impeach her over the email scandal.

Also, James Comey needs to be replaced (he is a repuke too, and hates the Clintons from his Whitewater investigation days)... as head of the FBI, and and privy to all the email scandal investigation information that we in the public are NOT privy to, he will be in a position to blackmail her during her administration.

So yeah; we have to produce such a huge GOTV effort that Hillary and Democrats are swept into power in such a massive show of force that it leaves the repugs reeling, impotent and powerless.

[Scootaloo]

42. What's this, the sixth, seventh time you've clambered back on board the GE wagon?

Best of luck to you on your endeavor, though

[MineralMan]

43. As we get nearer and nearer November's election,

I'll be posting a lot more about GOTV for that election. Soon, I'll start detailing ways DUers can get involved with getting out the vote in their own local areas. We know who the candidates are at this point. It's time to start working on getting Democrats elected to all offices, local, state, and federal.

Thanks for your good wishes. We'll need all the help we can get to elect Hillary and all of the down-ticket Democratic candidates.

[vintx]

46. You just noticed? They did that last week.

[Sivart]

52. He noticed.....

He's just trolling Sanders supporters, as usual.

[MineralMan]

57. No. I'm not doing that at all.

Calling people trolls is rather impolite, I think. I don't call other DUers trolls.

[Sivart]

59. I didn't call people trolls......I didn't even call you a troll.....

I said you were trolling. If i said you were walking would you claim I called you a walk? If I said you were snoring would you claim I called you a snore?

Calling people impolite is rather impolite, I think. I don't call other people impolite.

You have a great general election, Mineral Mann.

[MineralMan]

56. No, I didn't just notice it, but waited to determine

whether it was a short term phenomenon or a real change. A week is about the right amount of time for that, I think. Thanks for asking.

[RKP5637]

54. I supported/voted for Bernie, but I will vote for Hillary with no problem. I'm sure there have

been, but in my lifetime I don't recall any presidential candidate as creepy and dangerous as Trump. I am hoping the dems can take back the Senate too.

[AgingAmerican]

63. GOTV is to Hillary supporters what Kryptonite is to Superman

Negative reinforcement is not a good way to sell a candidate.

[pat_k]

66. So has Bernie. He ceased running against Hillary.

He's pilloried Trump.

The fact that he continues to advocate for change within the Democratic Party -- change that will strengthen it -- doesn't undermine the GE campaign. It complements it.

[eastwestdem]

80. It's time!! nt