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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:47 AM Jun 2016

Most Hillary supporters want Elizabeth Warren for VP

Sahil Kapur ?@sahilkapur 18h18 hours ago
Clinton supporters want Elizabeth Warren for VP
http://bloom.bg/1UzO80P



Talking Points Memo ?@TPM 3h3 hours ago
Hillary Clinton is actively vetting Elizabeth Warren as potential running mate http://bit.ly/2658DKB
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Most Hillary supporters want Elizabeth Warren for VP (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2016 OP
Of course they do, TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #1
Including that Chuck Schumer apparently doesn't want her to be VP? n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #2
Could be. There are other reasons, too. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #6
Warren is very high profile Sheepshank Jun 2016 #3
she's not my first choice, but i certainly wouldn't mind her. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #4
Agreed. nt auntpurl Jun 2016 #7
+1 Lucinda Jun 2016 #16
Clinton/Warren 2016! yallerdawg Jun 2016 #5
Clinton/Warren vs Trump/(name witheld by request) ! PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #9
Why doesn't Juan Castro get any love? CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #8
if he's going to be a serious contender bigtree Jun 2016 #14
It's Julian, and he's not in Congress Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #24
Which is precisely why I asked why Joaquin doesn't get any attention. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #25
Sorry, I misunderstood Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #29
I want her as VP if Hillary actually wants her as VP democrattotheend Jun 2016 #10
I don't think Elizabeth Warren is anyone's chump or potted plant. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #18
Agreed democrattotheend Jun 2016 #19
I think a lot of people (not counting you in their numbers) can't process geek tragedy Jun 2016 #21
I think she might democrattotheend Jun 2016 #22
lots of articles speculate about Hillary's state of mind. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #23
Worst idea ever GummyBearz Jun 2016 #11
Yep. bunnies Jun 2016 #12
well yeah bigtree Jun 2016 #13
I agree. She's our watchdog. Ilsa Jun 2016 #28
too old too white Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #15
Obama's not a boomer democrattotheend Jun 2016 #20
Nope, he is Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #26
'too white' ? So we're back to discriminating based on race? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #31
Would have rather had her as President. Ash_F Jun 2016 #17
I want Castro. He might swing Texas. Ilsa Jun 2016 #27
I live I. Texas, and this state isn't being swung anywhere but further to the Exilednight Jun 2016 #30
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
3. Warren is very high profile
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jun 2016

some of the others have yet to presented very publically.

I personally was not one of those that favors Warren...and apparently I'm in the minority. That feels weird lol

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
14. if he's going to be a serious contender
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016

...he's going to need to increase his public profile fast.

I'd wager that there's only a smattering of Americans who even know who he is.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
24. It's Julian, and he's not in Congress
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jun 2016

That's his brother Joaquin.

As for why he gets no love, I hope it's because being (1) the powerless part-time mayor of a city run by a city manager, and then (2) the head of a cabinet department who's accomplishments no one can name does not qualify you to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. He's nowhere near ready yet, and so picking him would look like tokenism and simply reinforce the perception that Hillary is a pandering, focus-group-driven political operator who puts her own ambitions ahead of the nation.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
25. Which is precisely why I asked why Joaquin doesn't get any attention.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jun 2016

Though I did butcher his name, unfortunately.

He's in Congress, which is a bigger deal than being Mayor of San Antonio IMO.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
29. Sorry, I misunderstood
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:33 PM
Jun 2016

I thought you were asking about why Julian's numbers were so low. As for Joaquin, isn't he just finishing up his first term -- in a Congress that literally did nothing? That's a pretty tough sell. A long-standing congressman like Luis Gutiérrez or Xavier Becerra would be a more plausible pick.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
10. I want her as VP if Hillary actually wants her as VP
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jun 2016

But if it's just to make Bernie supporters happier about voting for Hillary I am not for it, because if Hillary doesn't intend to make her an important part of the administration I'd rather have her in the Senate. If she were to play a big role like Biden I would be very happy about it.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. I don't think Elizabeth Warren is anyone's chump or potted plant.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton's reasons for wanting her should seem pretty obvious--she's smart, she knows how to speak forcefully, and she's been kicking the crap out of Donald Trump lately.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
19. Agreed
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016

I don't think Warren would take the job just to be window dressing. I am just saying that Hillary should follow Obama's model of picking someone she wants to govern with, not someone chosen based on electoral calculations. If Warren is the person she wants that would be great.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. I think a lot of people (not counting you in their numbers) can't process
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jun 2016

the idea that Clinton would choose Warren because she views Warren as an asset to have in an administration, that she would want a liberal ass-kicker helping move legislation and lobby for policy.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
22. I think she might
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:07 PM
Jun 2016

I just remember reading an article a month or so ago about how Hillary didn't really want to pick Warren and would only do so if she felt she had to to unite the party after the primary. But I know they have talked a lot more since, so if Hillary has decided she genuinely wants Warren on her team that's great.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. lots of articles speculate about Hillary's state of mind.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:10 PM
Jun 2016

it's kind of a cottage industry.

I think Clinton learned a lot of lessons from 2008--lessons she needed to learn. First, hire advisors who are the polar opposite of Mark Penn.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
11. Worst idea ever
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jun 2016

Making one of the biggest establishment leaders the boss of one of the biggest opposition leaders to the establishment is stupid. We need Warren in the senate in order to filibuster all of the shitty things HRC wants passed.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
12. Yep.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:32 AM
Jun 2016

Its a great way to pander to the left and silence one of our strongest voices simultaneously. Screw that.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
13. well yeah
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:41 AM
Jun 2016

...if any of that nonsense was true.

Sanders folks are still arguing with the caricature of Hillary they invented. I've never seen a campaign so divorced from reality; so intent on remaining in the bubble.

The ENTIRE congressional progressive caucus is supporting Hillary, including its chairman who just switched from Bernie to Hillary today. Nattering on and on about 'establishment' is some ridiculous delusion, having just spent the primary trying to elect a decades-long politician to the highest political office in the land.

Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
15. too old too white
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:49 AM
Jun 2016

we need to get out of the baby boomer generation. Obama whether he likes it or not is a boomer. It is better if the VP can run for President in, EW will be really really old then. Why not a Latino or Asian VP?

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
27. I want Castro. He might swing Texas.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jun 2016

I think broadening the demographics on the ticket is important. Male, experienced, from the south, hispanic.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
30. I live I. Texas, and this state isn't being swung anywhere but further to the
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jun 2016

Right. Voter demographics say that Texas is a 2028, maybe 2024, swing state.

I've looked at this every which way from Sunday, and Texas is not in play.

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