Clinton foundation giving, let's not lie about it

[La Lioness Priyanka]

I know it's hard for some people to recover from Clinton derangement syndrome, but about the foundations giving, here is some useful info

Where Does Clinton Foundation Money Go?

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/

[JTFrog]

1. Yep, they are posting shit straight from the Republican party itself here now.

They feel no shame and are openly exposing themselves at this point.

[chascarrillo]

2. Buncha superpredators, I tell you. They should be deported.

[JTFrog]

5. Those willing to carry the GOP's water for them on DU should really find a new home forum.

Just saying, that the political term "useful idiots" was coined for a reason.

[geek tragedy]

10. how goes the sour grapes revolution? nt

[grossproffit]

3. Some have had carte blanche for far too long.

It won't stop until they're made to stop.

[magical thyme]

51. you mean, like Harper's magazine? nt

Shaky Foundations
http://harpers.org/blog/2015/11/shaky-foundations/

A Canadian charity called the Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership—which is run by one of Bill Clinton’s close friends, Frank Giustra—has been moving significant sums of money into the Clinton Foundation’s flagship in New York. There’s no way for the public to know precisely how much total money the CGEP has taken in over the years—or how much it has forwarded on to the Clinton Foundation—because, unlike in the United States, under Canadian non-profit law charities don’t need to report donors to tax authorities. Earlier this year, after being severely criticized by the Canadian press, the CGEP released the names of twenty-four of its donors, but more than 1,000 are still unknown. (CGEP wrote in an email that “going forward [it] will publicly disclose all future donors.”)

The Clinton Foundation’s list of donors on its website puts the CGEP in the top category of $25 million-plus, however a financial-industry source who has seen the relevant records estimated that the figure is at least $33 million. According to Ortel that number is certainly understated. “There are no effective controls over the Clinton Foundation or the Giustra entity,” he told me. “No independent party has had access to the bank account records, including wire transfer records. There are no independent directors ensuring compliance with the law. Only a fool would have any confidence in their numbers; it’s like Al Capone forming a foundation.”

One money-laundering expert and former intelligence officer based in the Middle East who had access to the foundation’s confidential banking information told me that members of royal families in Middle Eastern countries, including Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, have donated money to the CGEP that has then been sluiced through to the Clinton Foundation. He added that the CGEP has also received money from corrupt officials in South Africa during the regime of Jacob Zuma and from senior officials in Equatorial Guinea, one of the most brutal and crooked dictatorships in the world. “Equatorial Guinea doesn’t give to the Clinton Foundation in New York because it’s too embarrassing,” he said. “They give the money anonymously in Canada and that buys them political protection in the United States. The Clinton Foundation is a professionally structured money-laundering operation.”

[Florencenj2point0]

4. bump

[LexVegas]

6. Clinton derangement syndrome is real. nt

[tonyt53]

7. They've got nothing else and think they everybody else is as naive as they are

[ismnotwasm]

8. Just served on a jury for a meme I see on my brother-in-laws facebook

About the Clinton foundation.

My brother in law is a Rightwing, Trump-voting unapologetic racist. I was surprised to see it here.

My BIL is not my FB friend--I won't allow his shit around me, but my husband shows me some of it. Blech.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

12. I alerted on that particular prize and was happy to see it deleted

[Lucinda]

9. KNR

[Ash_F]

11. That read just brings home how hard it is to monitor such organizations

There are alternative viewpoints that that don't come from Republicans:

http://www.caribbean360.com/news/protests-continue-hillary-clintons-role-haiti

Also this:

[vintx]

13. Interested to see the response to this. nt

[swhisper1]

50. denial.of course

[jzodda]

18. Its a load of Bull Shit

The foundation works on tons of projects world wide and an article picks on one aspect.

The foundation helps people and its not a real estate company like Trumps set up to enrich himself and fuck people over.

And 99.9 percent of the BS about the foundation comes from places like Breitbart and other RW talking points.

In another thread poster says only 10% of foundation money goes to help people. Is it sourced? Nope...but poster gets away with it.

Sick of it......

[Ash_F]

19. OK. Are the people in my post wrong?

They seem really close to the issue, being Haitian.

[jzodda]

22. That's not my point

The Clinton foundation is a large organization with multiple projects world wide. Sometimes things go astray or mistakes are made.

How does that make her corrupt? Or here's a better way of putting it.

Would the world be a better place or worse place without the foundation? Well since they DO help people and we know they do because we can ask those that have been helped its a force for good not greed.

You want Greed? Its called Trump, inc.

[Ash_F]

24. Ok I take your point, but...

my point was that the article is only one viewpoint and is not a bill of clean health for the org, as the OP seemed to imply.

The main source for the article was the foundation itself.

It just highlights that it is difficult to hold foundations/charities accountable and there should be a better system, especially when powerful politicians are involved.

[jzodda]

30. Probably correct

There probably should be a better way to do some of this stuff certainly. When I hear Clinton's brother mentioned it makes me cringe as he hasn't been all that helpful to her over the years. Its just that in this hyper sensitive political climate its sometimes hard to filter through the critiques meant to inform but not destroy or tear down.

[okasha]

31. There is a thing called a 990.

Every foundation must file one annually with the IRS. It will tell you, in mind-numbing detail, just exactly where the foundation's money goes.

These documents are available to the public on line. Go look at the Clinton Foundation's filing if you want to know how much went where.

[swhisper1]

44. programming that cannot be audited, sounds like the pentagon

Oh my God, could they be be allied in some nefarious plot to take over the world?!!!!!

Just kidding

[swhisper1]

32. it will all come out in the wash

the Foundation and the Clinton Initiative, both secret and Haiti is not the only complaint, so if innocent, then very badly run.

[1StrongBlackMan]

40. Not only gets away with it ... gets tons of Recs.

[k8conant]

14. I'd say Clinton has deranged enough people already.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. Lol

[TwilightZone]

16. When one is on the same side of an issue as Carly Fiorina and Fox News, one should probably

reevaluate one's position.

But then, these are some of the same people who are putting all their hopes in Judicial Watch.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. Yup

[1StrongBlackMan]

42. LOL ...

there are a bunch of folks that should be reevaluating their position; but won't ... emotional investment is a tough thing to break.

[niyad]

17. shh, quit trying to confuse everyone with facts.

[HumanityExperiment]

20. indeed, let's not lie about it, transparency is required...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-donor-sensitive-intelligence-board/story?id=39710624

pay to play?

[vintx]

45. And completely unsurprisingly- no response to this.

Seriously, this is going to be such an ugly five months. And if she wins we'll have years more of it to enjoy.

[HumanityExperiment]

47. agreed

I like these 'mic drop' replies... if you want to shut forum back and forth down with a final fact.. lay;em down like that and POOF not a single reply will be made

[2banon]

21. There is defintely a Clinton Derangement Syndrome in play, I'll give you that.

But the sufferers aren't who you think they are!

[vintx]

23. !

[ismnotwasm]

37. Yes, they are

[2banon]

43. ...

[NCTraveler]

25. "Clinton derangement syndrome"

Clinton wants to expand access to mental health facilities. She literally wants to help people who want to see her and her family destroyed. We made the right choice.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

26. We really did

[swhisper1]

33. right, I have a patch of sky to sell too

[NCTraveler]

35. Where is it located? I might be interested. nt.

[swhisper1]

38. santa fe, discounted and it all goes to charity, just 2 million for 4 cubic feet, a steal

[NCTraveler]

46. One post too many.

[swhisper1]

48. agreed

[Peacetrain]

28. Thank you for that link La Lioness!!!

Much appreciate it..

[CanadaexPat]

29. To be clear, factcheck is stating its not about giving

because the Clinton Foundation mostly does its own programming.

[swhisper1]

36. the underground reason for the Foundation is highly suspect and the secrecy damning

that and donors have been getting major perks

[swhisper1]

39. yes, programming that cannot be tracked, how convienent

[scscholar]

34. As if it is any of our damn business!

Why do those conservatives keep prying into her private life? Why can't they just be decent people?

[swhisper1]

41. slush funding is criminal, thats why

[vintx]

49. Have they bothered to disclose the millions in foreign donations from 2010 to 2012 yet?

I know they were working on that - after being called out for not doing so.

Any update?

[okasha]

52. That information should be in the 990's.

Go look if you want to know.

[vintx]

53. Did you really not know that that information was left off?

And that it took journalists asking about the omissions for her crack team of experts to even notice they hadn't been reported?