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J_J_

(1,213 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:13 PM Jun 2016

I would have voted for Hillary Clinton three months ago. I believed that our elections are just...

I would have voted for Hillary Clinton three months ago. I believed that our elections are just, verifiable, and democratic—but then discovered how easy it is to hack a voting machine without a trace. I told myself that previous elections hadn’t necessarily been rigged—but then found evidence proving me wrong. I convinced myself that it didn’t mean this Democratic nomination was rigged — until I uncovered the truth.

I am an ardent skeptic turned fervent believer.

Over the course of this article, I will demonstrate that electoral fraud was committed favoring Hillary Clinton with a plethora of sources: exit poll data, statistics, mainstream and independent media articles, expert quotes and analysis, videos, anecdotes, and so forth. All of these sources can be accessed through clickable hyperlinks (the underlined text)....

When the exit polls are way off, either the polls are wrong, electoral fraud was committed, or both.

As Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. mentioned, research shows that exit polls are almost always spot on. When one or two are incorrect, they could be statistical anomalies, but the more incorrect they are, the more it substantiates electoral fraud.

https://medium.com/@spencergundert/hillary-clinton-and-electoral-fraud-992ad9e080f6

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I would have voted for Hillary Clinton three months ago. I believed that our elections are just... (Original Post) J_J_ Jun 2016 OP
not this crap again from the Alex Jones wing of the sour grapes revolution nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1
Does every post that does not kiss Hillary's behind have to be "not this crap again?" Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #26
This IS a discussion board, but we are not allowed to discuss anything of consequence J_J_ Jun 2016 #41
So you are one of those people that think Obama is a fraud? nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #2
yawnnnnn. tell me, what would you be saying if the numbers were reversed, and the HRC niyad Jun 2016 #3
... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #4
Tick tock...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #5
. coyote Jun 2016 #22
I am #berndout. Eom MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #6
“There wasn’t a single instance of voter suppression affecting a Hillary Clinton supporter. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #7
IT'S A CONSPIRACY! nt onehandle Jun 2016 #8
Exactly!! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #40
Imagine Trump cheating into the WH felix_numinous Jun 2016 #9
they are money over principles corporate democrats. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #19
Post is spot on! DianaForRussFeingold Jun 2016 #36
Thank you DianaForRussFeingold felix_numinous Jun 2016 #39
I love this about Medium... WhiteTara Jun 2016 #10
I don't believe you Renew Deal Jun 2016 #11
According to Ballotpedia there are only 10 states that still use DREs without paper trails ucrdem Jun 2016 #12
"The Democratic Primary Wasn't Rigged" by Ari Berman (The Nation) deurbano Jun 2016 #13
SMH DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #14
so are you buying this stuff, or did you post it to mock? Sheepshank Jun 2016 #15
What about Michigan? AJH032 Jun 2016 #16
GO AWAY jzodda Jun 2016 #17
How do you "Exit Poll" mail in ballots BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #18
The ballots go in, the numbers come out. You can't explain that. randome Jun 2016 #21
lol TwilightZone Jun 2016 #33
This was seen over the skies of California during the voting! FRAUD! CHEAT! OLIGARCHY! randome Jun 2016 #20
Here's some data pdsimdars Jun 2016 #23
That's the same math-challenged data the medium writer used. It's only one of his problems. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #32
Go ahead and link to RT.com for that graphic, please. randome Jun 2016 #35
Hey Hillary TheFarseer Jun 2016 #24
It was the chemtrails sharp_stick Jun 2016 #25
They haven't finished rehabbing all the Walmart's to make them COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #37
Four days left brooklynite Jun 2016 #27
Thank Zeus COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #38
So exit polls are more accurate than actual vote totals? Who knew! CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #28
Funny how Bernie Sanders doesn't agree with you... brooklynite Jun 2016 #29
California's Hoover Institution Poll jamese777 Jun 2016 #30
This is over the top conspiracy talk Dem2 Jun 2016 #31
election fraud nuttery. Sanders got his butt kicked fair and square. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #34

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
26. Does every post that does not kiss Hillary's behind have to be "not this crap again?"
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

The other one is when you guys accuse any dissenter of using "GOP talking points."

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
41. This IS a discussion board, but we are not allowed to discuss anything of consequence
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jun 2016

I have the feeling DU subscriptions and ad revenue will be tanking shortly

niyad

(112,434 posts)
3. yawnnnnn. tell me, what would you be saying if the numbers were reversed, and the HRC
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jun 2016

people were making these comments about bernie?

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
7. “There wasn’t a single instance of voter suppression affecting a Hillary Clinton supporter.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jun 2016

It solely affected Bernie Sanders.”

This was in his original document, as noted in the comments. It's so ridiculous that it defies comment.

He uses margin of error, not understanding that it goes both ways.

In several instances, he overstated the result difference, usually doubling them, which is likely not a coincidence.

He ignores mail-in and early voting almost entirely.

He also assumes that all polling methodologies are the same, both in polling and exit polling. That's nonsense.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
9. Imagine Trump cheating into the WH
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jun 2016

It shouldn't matter who you vote for, election fraud concerns us all. Accepting election fraud means the DEATH of democracy.

And this gets a yawn? I wonder if some posters here are even in America or ever took civics.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
36. Post is spot on!
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

Thank you!
I just don't get it. There are concerns of election fraud and voter
suppression in state after state.
In the future, if the Democratic Party doesn't take this issue seriously,
now--I believe we will lose credibility when the Republicans are involved.

I remember when Bobby Kennedy Jr. was praised when he talked about
the 2004 election fraud.

Keith Olbermann 2004 Ohio Election Fraud/Results Coverage:



Former President Jimmy Carter; "unlimited ability for money to influence elections, policy, and law.":


"Jimmy Carter, who says he doesn't believe George W. Bush actually won the presidency against Al Gore in 2000." Also, Discusses Nixon to LBJ, Reagan to Carter:



Thanks for having the courage to stand up for democracy!

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
39. Thank you DianaForRussFeingold
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jun 2016

I always liked Russ Feingold, he is one of the rare ones

I am so proud of everyone who is speaking out too, I feel like we are going through a birth canal.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
10. I love this about Medium...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jun 2016

anybody can write on Medium. Of course, this article is just one guy's opinion that has not been sourced except in his own mind.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
12. According to Ballotpedia there are only 10 states that still use DREs without paper trails
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016

with or without other types of equipment, and California isn't one of them (DRE = direct recording equipment):

https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_equipment_by_state - scroll down to map and click "show" to expand table.

The bad news is that Florida is one of them.

deurbano

(2,891 posts)
13. "The Democratic Primary Wasn't Rigged" by Ari Berman (The Nation)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.thenation.com/article/the-democratic-primary-wasnt-rigged/

When my (then) 13-year-old son made a video about voter suppression in the lead-up to the 2012 presidential election (even interviewing a former Freedom Rider), he relied extensively on reporting by Ari Berman, since this is a signature issue for Berman.
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
15. so are you buying this stuff, or did you post it to mock?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jun 2016

I don't see you making any comments one way or the other, so given your documented hatred for Hillary, I must assume you think it some sort of gospel.

tick tock

AJH032

(1,124 posts)
16. What about Michigan?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jun 2016

Polls had Hillary easily winning this state, but Bernie ended up winning by a couple points. Was that a fraudulent win, or is it only fraud when Hillary wins?

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
17. GO AWAY
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

Breitbart would be a more appropriate site for your interests.

There you can read about Alex Jones and be in your element.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
23. Here's some data
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jun 2016

Edison Research, the company that does all the exit polls for our primaries says that "the margin of error for a 95% confidence interval is about +/- 4% for a typical state exit poll."





12% in NY? There has been such a difference between the exit polls and the "reported" vote that they decided to cancel the exit polls for CA.



TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
24. Hey Hillary
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jun 2016

When you hack Nebraska, just add one more vote to your total and save me from waiting in line.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
25. It was the chemtrails
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

they made all the Clinton supporters so crazy then HAARP came in a blinded everyone to the fact that their vote changed.

I'm just waiting for the Illuminati to come charging in so we can have fully staffed FEMA camps with attached Death Panel annexes.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
37. They haven't finished rehabbing all the Walmart's to make them
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

ready for the FEMA camps. But you just wait...

jamese777

(546 posts)
30. California's Hoover Institution Poll
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jun 2016

This poll was one of the last statewide polls taken before the California Primary:
Hoover Institution Golden State Poll: Clinton +13 Over Sanders; Harris, Sanchez Lead Senate Field

STANFORD, CA: With California’s June 7 primary only a week away, a new Hoover Institution Golden State Poll finds Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump with large leads in their respective primaries but cautionary signs lay ahead and good news for Democratic U.S. Senate hopefuls Kamala Harris and Loretta Sanchez.

Hoover’s Golden State Poll, administered by the survey research firm YouGov and designed in conjunction with Stanford University’s Bill Lane Center for the American West, finds Clinton holding a 13-point lead over U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders (51 percent to 38 percent).

Trump receives 66 percent in the Republican contest. Why that lofty number is problematic: Mitt Romney, like Trump a nominee-in-waiting, received 79.5 percent of the vote in California’s 2012 GOP presidential primary.

Clinton, meanwhile, continues to struggle with younger primary voters – Sanders leads 61 percent to 30 percent among Californians under-30 and shows weakness among “no party preference” voters, trailing Sanders by 40 points.

Bruce Cain, the Spence and Cleone Eccles Family Director of Stanford University’s Bill Lane Center for the American West, said, "The huge age divide in the Democratic contest poses a serious strategic question for the Clinton campaign: spend a lot of money now to try to offset or reduce this gap to avoid an embarrassing primary outcome that will not affect the delegate count much, or be patient, save her money and address the problem in the fall."
http://www.hoover.org/press-releases/hoover-institution-golden-state-poll-clinton-13-over-sanders-harris-sanchez-lead

The actual result of the primary was Clinton 55%/Sanders 44%.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
31. This is over the top conspiracy talk
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jun 2016

Just because there is unfairness in the world, doesn't mean that you should stop participating in it.

Complaining that something exists does not prove that it does in any given instance.

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