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I wonder why no news or polling agency has done a poll for a 3 way presidential race? (Original Post) tk2kewl Jun 2016 OP
Three way with who? Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #1
they have dlwickham Jun 2016 #2
I didn't see what I was looking for tk2kewl Jun 2016 #3
Who is the 3rd in your 3-way? n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #4
Trump/Clinton/Sanders tk2kewl Jun 2016 #8
Why would they waste money on a poll when Sanders has explicitly ruled out a run? pnwmom Jun 2016 #11
They have, and RCP has been reporting them. pnwmom Jun 2016 #5
It would give Bernie hope... scscholar Jun 2016 #6
You're wrong. The polls are being done and being reported. pnwmom Jun 2016 #9
Given (1) Bernie's strength with indies tk2kewl Jun 2016 #15
Did you think he would win the primary? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #23
Originally, no tk2kewl Jun 2016 #24
You're delusional to believe that. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #35
They've been running them for more than a month. Several have been posted on DU. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #7
not the one I'm interested in tk2kewl Jun 2016 #10
Sanders has already indicated he's not running as an Independent, so including him would be TwilightZone Jun 2016 #12
If 44% of Dems think he should run as an independent, I think it's newsworthy enough for a poll tk2kewl Jun 2016 #22
One poll with little underlying information is not a basis for nationwide polling. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #25
So no less than 39% of Dems think he should run indie. Interesting. tk2kewl Jun 2016 #32
39% of 455 people TwilightZone Jun 2016 #34
44% of 455 people tk2kewl Jun 2016 #37
44% out of 455 people Andy823 Jun 2016 #28
Sanders has said he'll never do that. Do you think he is lying? pnwmom Jun 2016 #13
You don't know what you're interested in. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #19
Because Bernie has promised not to participate in such a race? Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #14
while I know what has transpired, I disagree with your assessment of how he would be received tk2kewl Jun 2016 #16
If he can't be trusted to keep this promise, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #17
His record demonstrates his trustworthiness tk2kewl Jun 2016 #18
I've seen several polls with Libertarian and a few with the Green Party. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #20
They have been. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #21
They have been with and without MFM008 Jun 2016 #26
Bernie is a man of his word and already said he wasn't running as an independent. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #27
Look to me like Andy823 Jun 2016 #29
They're counting the Libertarian in as we speak. What else did you have in mind? Hekate Jun 2016 #30
The media blackout has been THICK, apart from the occasional, more or less ridiculous attack. snot Jun 2016 #31
Sanders is not going to enter the race as a third party candidate gollygee Jun 2016 #33
Why on Earth would they waste their time polling that? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #36
I think it was Bloomberg who did a poll with Bernie going Indy. DemocraticWing Jun 2016 #38

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
11. Why would they waste money on a poll when Sanders has explicitly ruled out a run?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jun 2016

Gary Johnson, by contrast, actually is running.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
15. Given (1) Bernie's strength with indies
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:32 PM
Jun 2016

(2) His support by ~45% of dems

(3) Most everyone but the wingnut right hate Trump

and (4) the level of dislike for Hillary on the right and left

I think Bernie would win.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
35. You're delusional to believe that.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jun 2016

He has the support of about 43% of those who voted in the Dem primaries. Nowhere close to the same as 43% of all Dems since most people don't vote in primaries. He'd loose a lot that support if he ran 3rd party. The most he could do in a 3rd party run would be to act as another Ralph Nader.

TwilightZone

(25,426 posts)
12. Sanders has already indicated he's not running as an Independent, so including him would be
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jun 2016

a waste of time and resources.

TwilightZone

(25,426 posts)
25. One poll with little underlying information is not a basis for nationwide polling.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jun 2016

Particularly when Sanders himself has indicated that he's not running.

The Reuters poll included 455 recipients with an MOE over over 5%. They have not published any related data or how the questions were posed, which is usually standard when polls come out. Without that, it's just a number.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
28. 44% out of 455 people
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jun 2016

Thats like around 200 who want him to run, not really a great number. The vast majority of Democrats don't want him to run, they have already voted, it wasn't Bernie that they picked. These kind of BS polls are just being done to keep the division in the Democratic party. Sure Trump would love it, and the GOP would love it, but Bernie has said he won't run, so unless you think Bernie is a liar, you might as well forget about it.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
13. Sanders has said he'll never do that. Do you think he is lying?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-independent_us_55ba86e7e4b06363d5a1742b

Sanders, an independent in the U.S. Senate who is seeking the 2016 presidency on the Democratic ticket, explained in a Q&A session with the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce that he feels a responsibility to stick to the two-party system in the presidential contest.

If it happens that I do not win that process, would I run outside of the system?” Sanders said in the interview broadcast by C-SPAN. “No, I made the promise that I would not and I will keep that promise.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/17/bernie-sanders-camp-sanders-isnt-going-launch-thir/

Tuesday, May 17, 2016

Sen. Bernard Sanders’ campaign manager said Tuesday that Mr. Sanders is not going to launch a third-party bid for the White House — a possibility that presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump has been openly encouraging.

“Bernie Sanders has said he will not run as a third-party candidate. He’s going to support the Democratic nominee, and that’s what he’s going to do,” Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said on CNN’s “New Day.”

“Trump obviously would like a third-party candidate on the left so that he [could] try to divide the vote and win, but I think what you’re going to see is unity to defeat Trump,” Mr. Weaver said.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
14. Because Bernie has promised not to participate in such a race?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jun 2016

And if he breaks this promise, the disgust and disillusionment among those who thought that he was a "straight talker" would leave him with zero chance to win?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
17. If he can't be trusted to keep this promise,
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jun 2016

how can he be trusted with any other promise? How would people know that he wouldn't also abandon his plans to bring down the oligarchs and cozy up to them instead?

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
18. His record demonstrates his trustworthiness
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jun 2016

The other two, not so much.

I think Bernie could come up with a reasonable explanation for a change of heart.

Making an issue out of trustworthiness would likely still work to his advantage.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
20. I've seen several polls with Libertarian and a few with the Green Party.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jun 2016

In those polls, the Libertarian has the largest effect and most of that being to hurt Trump even more. One with Green and Libertarian added, showed Trump winning, but it was before California. The other poll I saw reflected Trumps collapse in the polls, and Clintons margin of victory was cut.

There are other parties out there but, collectively, they will not amount to more than 1% of the vote.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
29. Look to me like
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jun 2016

You are just trying to keep things stirred up here on DU. That's not really a goo way to unite the party so we can beat Trump, now is it?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
33. Sanders is not going to enter the race as a third party candidate
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jun 2016

The Libertarian candidate might get a lot of votes though.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
36. Why on Earth would they waste their time polling that?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie's not going to be on the ballot in November, get over it.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
38. I think it was Bloomberg who did a poll with Bernie going Indy.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jun 2016

He had 18% and Trump went from 3 points down to 3 points up when Bernie was added.

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