2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton’s VP shortlist has leaked. Here are the pros and cons of each.
by Dylan Matthews on June 16, 2016, 5:00 p.m. ETOn Thursday, the Wall Street Journals Laura Meckler and Colleen McCain Nelson broke the news that Hillary Clinton is vetting Elizabeth Warren for the vice presidency but not vetting Bernie Sanders. In the process, they provided a shortlist of candidates that Clinton is considering:
Beyond the Massachusetts senator, other prospective candidates include Labor Secretary Tom Perez; Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro; Sens. Tim Kaine of Virginia, Sherrod Brown of Ohio and Cory Booker of New Jersey; Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, and Reps. Xavier Becerra of California and Tim Ryan of Ohio, several Democrats said.
Now, this isnt necessarily an exhaustive list, and Meckler and Nelson note that the vetting is still in early stages, using publicly available information rather than asking candidates to submit tax returns and the like.
Nonetheless, this list is the best information we've gotten about who Clinton is considering, and it includes some names that havent popped up in prior media speculation. All of these candidates have obvious strengths that have put them on this list, but of course, they each have their weaknesses as well. Heres a rundown:
http://www.vox.com/2016/6/16/11954878/hillary-clinton-vice-president-veepstakes
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)My favorite as well.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)in large part because Kasich would appoint his replacement.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I would be very happy to be wrong about that.
MH1
(17,573 posts)I would have really liked him as VP too, but I understand the reasoning.
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)bereft of sanity republicans are without having to be polite about it,that's Sherrod Brown in my opinion.
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)zonkers
(5,865 posts)Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)Christie would appoint his replacement and he would probably appoint himself.
zonkers
(5,865 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)Christie would not be able to appoint his replacement. Each state does it their own way.
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)I did not know that, thank you for edjumacatin me!
mcar
(42,278 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)I'm really hoping she picks Julián Castro.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)Julian Castro is walking in the footprints of Henry Cisneros, who would quite likely have been the first Hispanic VP candidate if he hadn't gotten chewed up in a scandal of his own making.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)swhisper1
(851 posts)Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)I think he would also help swing a lot of states in the south west including TX. I would love a two woman ticket but EW is another boomer. We need to reach in to the next generation.
TheKentuckian
(25,020 posts)recollection.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,610 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)we never would have won VA with a more liberal person. But yes I agree he is more conservative than I like.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,610 posts)who is even more conservative than she is. In interviews I've seen with him he strikes me as being bland and not even slightly charismatic - she also needs somebody with some fire to inject more enthusiasm into her campaign.
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)it takes all kinds of democrats to make the party a national party. I am more liberal than Hillary but I am in awe of her. I adore her. You can like and admire people for all kinds of traits and Tim Kaine is an honorable man.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)but all of them have at least one compelling weakness, (it sucks that Kasich is governor of Ohio)
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)He is a great guy...and I have voted for him in spite of his pro-life stance which changed a year or two ago. I asked him about it once...and he said he doesn't like abortion but has decided...women should have the right to choose what happens to them. I thought he was sincere. I know others who evolved on this issue and as I said he is great on all the other issues...great union guy...went to bad for Delphi workers who were screwed over by the bankruptcy...really works to help his constituents. I like him a lot.
HarmonyRockets
(397 posts)back in late 2006, early 2007, in the early days of youtube. If you were on any political forums back then, you had to have seen some of his videos. The guy gives fiery, passionate speeches on the House floor better than just about anyone. Similar to Alan Grayson, but more likeable IMO. Go look on YouTube. Besides maybe Warren, he would be the best attack dog and speech maker on the list. A clip of a passionate speech he gave on the house floor about Trump actually got a little bit of play on cable news a couple weeks ago.
I thought back then that he would become a really popular politician or someone's VP pick, and then I kind forgot about him. I heard him do some interviews on NPR a few years later about how he practices Buddhist mindfulness techniques. I was into Buddhist meditation and that kind of stuff at the time so I got a kick out of the fact that it was the guy I remember for yelling speeches so loud in the House. He actually wrote a book called A Mindful Nation.
Buy anyways, he does have a fairly moderate voting record. I think progressives would still like him once he starts to speak though. He seems to be well liked in Ohio so it may help in winning that state. The main thing that will come up with him is the fact that he was pro-life up until only about a year ago I think.
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)maybe she is protecting her very top of the top list which has Amy Klobuchar on it...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,610 posts)here in MN who would replace her with a Dem, so there's that. And she gives good interviews.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)he is too old, he was already VP, he really wanted to run and I think asking him would be a slap in the face. Is he a lawyer? Appoint him to SCOTUS.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Very lame strategy to appoint someone old to the courts.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)I think I would have been rolling my eyes alongside Sanders supporters if either of them were the pick.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,610 posts)I like Sherrod Brown the best so far.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)i was so in the tank for gore I remember spending days half heartedly trying to convince myself and like minded friends Lieberman wasn't so bad.
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)The statute of limitations on admitting to ourselves Lieberman was a terrible pick expired a while ago.
I fell in love with Gore the first time he ran, Btw, in 1988 and still love the man.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)I like Castro and Ryan!
TrueDemVA
(250 posts)He has been promoting it here in VA, so he gets a no from me.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)TrueDemVA
(250 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)swhisper1
(851 posts)Xavier told Ryan to shut up and let him argue a point, tactfully
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)HarmonyRockets
(397 posts)unfortunately. His coziness with Wall Street could be a minor problem with more progressive folks too. The guy does PR better than anyone though.
MyOwnPeace
(16,919 posts)Corey's history says that he would be as disappointing as our own President Obama (and I TRULY hate to say this) has been regarding education and schools.
Corey was working hand-in-hand with Chubs Christy to get charter schools, Teach For America, vouchers, and privatization into NJ schools while he was the "Mayor."
Nope, sorry, he may have "more talent" but he's not applying it in a way that would be good for the USA. That trail that he followed then is one that I will never go down.
swhisper1
(851 posts)Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)All come from states with Republican governors.
Knowing Hillary, she'll choose a safe pick like Tim Kaine, who comes from a state with a Democratic governor.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)Well that and he's from a swing state that basically ends the election if Hillary wins it. But if all he has going for him is being from Virginia that's not a compelling resume for VP.
oswaldactedalone
(3,490 posts)For VEEP. Love what he did last night.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)It's too bad that Ohio has a Republican governor. Sucks.
Fuck Castro. No way, no how. I'll vomit if she picks that empty suit.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)Becerra voted against the Iraq War, CAFTA and has sterling progressive credentials, but can also reach into the middle.
He has the experience to be President on day one, doesn't lose us a Senate seat and is also fluid in Spanish. No brainer!
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)oasis
(49,334 posts)glennward
(989 posts)What are his cons?
BootinUp
(47,085 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)either Cory Booker or Julian Castro
Number23
(24,544 posts)I've heard all day. I'd love to see Susan Rice in the job.
I would be okay with Warren, I think. I think that Castro would be a good choice as well.
Cha
(296,872 posts)Xavier Becerra of California.. he's on the list!
jimw81
(111 posts)Is the dark horse.