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So in the end, Bernie's in a basement, reading a list of demands? (Original Post) CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 OP
It's odd that people are fixated on the screen or possible location NWCorona Jun 2016 #1
It was bizarre. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #2
What was bizarre? The screen? Maybe he needed more flags NWCorona Jun 2016 #6
The audio was terrible CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #24
First, I would like to thanks for the honest post. NWCorona Jun 2016 #36
Fair enough. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #38
Bernie has never really been one for doing things the normal way. SpareribSP Jun 2016 #9
Your sig line is totally bizarre... k8conant Jun 2016 #22
Awww CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #29
These people don't do issues. QC Jun 2016 #10
Awww, I gave somebody a sad! QC Jun 2016 #46
It's all they have. You can't expect folks stuck in one gear to suddenly start "discussing" things villager Jun 2016 #57
I don't agree with all of them. They were just a rehash of his platform pnwmom Jun 2016 #62
I wouldn't say rejected. The just chose Hillary. NWCorona Jun 2016 #66
The strong majority of Dems chose Hillary and her platform over Bernie and his. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #67
I don't think most people really listen to him anymore...big banks, yadda, yadda, free stuff... eastwestdem Jun 2016 #75
It would make a good movie MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #3
Convention at Bernie's nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #7
Lol it took me w sec but I got there. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #8
Wasn't that the plot WhiteTara Jun 2016 #21
Weekend at bernies MissB Jun 2016 #26
YES! randome Jun 2016 #27
Weekend at Bernie's Revolution? Sheepshank Jun 2016 #74
Sorest loser ever.nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #4
No doubt eom rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #54
yep, I told people he would be absolutely worthless for the campaign against geek tragedy Jun 2016 #5
It's oh so progressive of him Sparkly Jun 2016 #15
he has his own agenda, and in no way does it involve helping elect geek tragedy Jun 2016 #17
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #64
Yep. Ransom demands bravenak Jun 2016 #11
It's embarrassing SheenaR Jun 2016 #12
The GE isn't about issues. woolldog Jun 2016 #18
Yes he is...indeed. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #40
OMG the most honest post about Hillary's/DNC's campaign I've seen here azurnoir Jun 2016 #61
Kind of stunning to see it laid out so directly, QC Jun 2016 #63
yes but there it is BOOM azurnoir Jun 2016 #77
We can agree with the issues. Sparkly Jun 2016 #19
he talks talks talks about that stuff, just like he talks about how we need to defeat Trump. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #20
Exactly WolverineDG Jun 2016 #25
Anyone can talk about those concepts. In fact, we often do. randome Jun 2016 #39
It's embarrassing that Bernie's supporters think there's only one answer pnwmom Jun 2016 #68
I know you can't be responding to what I wrote SheenaR Jun 2016 #69
You seem to think he's the only candidate talking about pnwmom Jun 2016 #71
Again SheenaR Jun 2016 #72
He's the only believable one eom noiretextatique Jun 2016 #76
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #13
That's on you, also sour and in bad taste. Tonight Bernie was strong, effective and principled. So, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #47
A principled person would concede when he lost and offer congratulations to the winner. nt. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #48
Based on the trash image you posted you have no concept or voice concerning principles. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #50
FYS kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #14
God’s Spirit Poured Out k8conant Jun 2016 #16
And your name is fucking Corky. kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #23
And your name is a boat and a euphemism for a toilet CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #28
The first time I saw your name,I loved it. sufrommich Jun 2016 #30
Yeah me too. I actually watched it again last night CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #32
Yep. I've watched it many times,it never gets old. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #34
I believe it's an effort to link you to a mentally-handicapped television character. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #35
Thanks. I had forgotten about that show. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #37
How progressive, hmm? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #42
I would hate to think that was their intention. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #73
Bernie is not worth the effort of googling a gif of the Hindenberg, even though it's appropriate. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #31
Hinden-Bernie! Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #65
Did he have his own private server in that basement. nt slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #33
. RandySF Jun 2016 #41
It's very appropriate in a way 😀😀😀 Txbluedog Jun 2016 #43
He will soon start radio broadcasts from his bunker. TNProfessor Jun 2016 #44
Lol rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #55
Good grief, that was bizarre. Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #45
My takeaways: A. He did not get what he asked for in the meeting. B. He did not get what he asked f riversedge Jun 2016 #49
As opposed to others who pick their beliefs in order to win elections WayBeyondBlue Jun 2016 #51
You're right. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #58
I like to call it a bunker. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #52
"in a basement"?? Projection??? panader0 Jun 2016 #53
Sanders is a bitter old man Gothmog Jun 2016 #56
not at all. but your ageism is disgusting. And ironic cali Jun 2016 #70
Sanders conduct speaks for itself Gothmog Jun 2016 #79
Hey, if it works for the "Sane Progressive" why not give it a shot? oasis Jun 2016 #59
I bet the acoustics in this basement are Fan FREAKING tastic Number23 Jun 2016 #60
This is how it ends, not with a bang Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #78

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
1. It's odd that people are fixated on the screen or possible location
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jun 2016

With out mentioning the "demands". Do you not agree with them?

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
24. The audio was terrible
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jun 2016

He looked alone, and uncomfortable. As a viewer it felt stuffy. Not in a that person is stuffy kind of way, but rather, a holy shit there are way too many people on this elevator kind of way.

Look they've done a great job. He's had some tremendous ads, and the optics of his campaign have been very good overall. This was not one of those times.

As to your question on the issues, I agree with him on virtually all of them. The list was just a little too exhaustive for the moment. Broad strokes would have been better. I thought he was about to wrap up and then he launched into part 2. It wasn't great. Sorry if stating that opinion offends.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
36. First, I would like to thanks for the honest post.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jun 2016

While I would agree that he seemed upset. I can't say that I wouldn't be even more so if I was him.

Today was billed as a message to his supporters and I think it should be viewed as such. He's done other videos to his supporters that looked just like this before and I didn't expect him to suspend his campaign, well 90% sure, today.



 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
38. Fair enough.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:21 PM
Jun 2016

I'm not sure I did either, but for a second it felt like he was going down that road. I haven't watched the videos Bernie has done. Perhaps that I was watching it on MSNBC made it feel awkward to me.

SpareribSP

(325 posts)
9. Bernie has never really been one for doing things the normal way.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jun 2016

Hey, he's trying to bring new people into the Democratic party and win back local and state governments. The guy cares about the issues and is doing what he can to get stuff done

QC

(26,371 posts)
10. These people don't do issues.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jun 2016

It's all about the team, specifically being on the winning team and putting down the losing team, like those pathetic football fans who like to talk about how "we" beat Michigan or whomever when actually they didn't beat anyone, as they were actually sitting on their asses guzzling Milwaukee's Best.

QC

(26,371 posts)
46. Awww, I gave somebody a sad!
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jun 2016


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villager

(26,001 posts)
57. It's all they have. You can't expect folks stuck in one gear to suddenly start "discussing" things
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

...let alone issues.

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
62. I don't agree with all of them. They were just a rehash of his platform
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:46 AM
Jun 2016

which was rejected by more than 16 million primary and caucus voters.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
75. I don't think most people really listen to him anymore...big banks, yadda, yadda, free stuff...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jun 2016

yadda, yadda

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
3. It would make a good movie
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jun 2016

About some supporters who drag Sanders around pretending to still be in a race. Hmm, I just had a deje vu moment

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. yep, I told people he would be absolutely worthless for the campaign against
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jun 2016

Trump, and he's proving that.

Talks about defeating Trump, not willing to do a damn thing to actually defeat Trump.

Democrats will defeat Trump, he just needs to stay out of the way.

Sparkly

(24,162 posts)
15. It's oh so progressive of him
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jun 2016

to pretend slogans make for a "revolution" that will change anything in DC.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. he has his own agenda, and in no way does it involve helping elect
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

a Democrat to the white house.

he's not going Nader, that's the best that can be said for him.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
12. It's embarrassing
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jun 2016

That so called progressives found the issues he raised problematic.

Economic, Social, Racial and environmental justice?

Yeah what an asshole

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
18. The GE isn't about issues.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jun 2016

It's about beating Trump and winning, so that you can advance your agenda. And that tool is now hurting our chances.

Sparkly

(24,162 posts)
19. We can agree with the issues.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jun 2016

What's problematic is that he works against those things. If he's not part of the solution, he's part of the problem. And he's decided he'd rather handicap the best chance we have for progress..

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. he talks talks talks about that stuff, just like he talks about how we need to defeat Trump.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jun 2016

But, will he lift a finger to elect the Democratic nominee over Trump?

We got our answer tonight.

WolverineDG

(22,298 posts)
25. Exactly
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jun 2016

Who could have predicted that DEMOCRATS would lambast a candidate who campaigned on those issues?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
39. Anyone can talk about those concepts. In fact, we often do.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jun 2016

But after 25 years in the Senate, Sanders still couldn't get more than 1 senator to endorse him. And it's safe to assume for the same reason as tonight: the guy rarely has any strategy behind his talking.

He should have been a preacher.

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
68. It's embarrassing that Bernie's supporters think there's only one answer
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:57 AM
Jun 2016

for every question and Bernie always has it.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
69. I know you can't be responding to what I wrote
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jun 2016

since I said nothing of the sort. But I'm not surprised at your knee-jerk reaction. It's fine.

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
71. You seem to think he's the only candidate talking about
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

"Economic, Social, Racial and environmental justice." You haven't been listening, if that's what you really think.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
72. Again
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jun 2016

not what I said.

I said that's what he was talking about in his speech. And he is assailed for it.

But now that you mention it, I have been listening. And what I haven't heard is a Democratic candidate looking to end bad trade agreements like the TPP. I haven't heard someone actively looking to bring healthcare to every citizen as a birth right (not incrementally improve on a flawed program). I haven't heard another candidate calling for a living minimum wage of $15. I haven't heard a candidate willing to stop taking money from Wall St and big money special interests.

So perhaps you haven't been listening yourself as you candidate has failed in many of these progressive regards, while I ADMIT she has been succeeding in several other areas and yes WINNING the race.

Response to CorkySt.Clair (Original post)

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
16. God’s Spirit Poured Out
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

Joel 2:28 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)


28 [a] Then afterward
I will pour out my spirit on all flesh;
your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
and your young men shall see visions.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
28. And your name is a boat and a euphemism for a toilet
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:09 PM
Jun 2016

"Fucking priceless."

spoiler alert: it's not my real name, ace.

The Google is your friend.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
35. I believe it's an effort to link you to a mentally-handicapped television character.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jun 2016

From the TV show Life Goes On.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Burke_(actor)
Christopher Joseph "Chris" Burke (born August 26, 1965) is an American actor and folk singer who has Down syndrome. He has become best known for his character Charles "Corky" Thacher on the television series Life Goes On.

Typical BernieBro bullshit.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
73. I would hate to think that was their intention.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

Being in my forties it is what I first thought of as well.

riversedge

(70,383 posts)
49. My takeaways: A. He did not get what he asked for in the meeting. B. He did not get what he asked f
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jun 2016

This tweet could be right.. Sanders did not make any progress with his meeting with Hillary. So, he is still making demands.


Goldie Taylor ?@goldietaylor 1h1 hour ago

My takeaways: A. He did not get what he asked for in the meeting. B. He did not get what he asked for in the meeting. C. See A and B.
 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
58. You're right.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:35 PM
Jun 2016

Why win when you can lose nobly. In politics it's actually easier to get things done when you lose.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
70. not at all. but your ageism is disgusting. And ironic
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary isn't exactly a spring chicken either. So what?

Maru Kitteh

(28,344 posts)
78. This is how it ends, not with a bang
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jun 2016

we all know the rest.

He has rendered his concession unnecessary and irrelevant. Only 218,000 out of his millions mustered up the initiative to watch his little diatribe. I think it was Joy Reid who called it his "video manifesto."

The campaign claims that about 6000 people requested information on running for local activists. That's great, because they will be going into these offices with progressive ideals, and will also, assuming some fraction of them actually go through with it, learn what it takes to actually get things done on the ground. It will be good for everybody - IF it actually goes anywhere beyond filling out an online form on SBS website.

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