2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA meme that used to be very popular on DU, now I never see it here
I wonder if DU will go through this again with Hillary?
QC
(26,371 posts)You know, just like the past year, and before that 2007 and 2008.
JI7
(89,240 posts)something similar maybe but different words.
she handled it well during the Benghazi thing.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)It was here constantly three or four years ago.
JI7
(89,240 posts)elections after 3-4 years ago.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)In fact the elections is exactly where Obama doesn't have control, that's where the voters come in.
JI7
(89,240 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)Just a wild guess.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... you didn't support her then so why do you support her now meme.
Cute. But what does it have to do with the discussion in this thread?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Even better than Steven Leser in 2008 when he said she was a "Rovian character" although his essay was pretty damn good.
You are quite the wordsmith, I envy you that since my short term memory is about gone and I can't really write long pieces any more, I have to keep going back and rereading to see what I've already said. That really upsets the flow of writing in a long piece.
On the other hand once I manage to get something into long term memory it still works quite well.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)Just like every other human being - just like every other politician - just like every other candidate.
I have no problem with that. What I DO have a problem with is people who think their candidate is a flawless saviour who would have righted all wrongs, stopped all injustices, and ushered-in a utopian world where everyone would have free college tuition and single-payer healthcare - if only "The Establishment" had not stepped-in to prevent his ascension to his rightful place.
And yet they're the same people who cheered their Saviour when he said he would convince the super-delegates to ignore the will of the people and hand him the nomination.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Which is why I posted the picture in the OP..
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)But I'm not being coy here. I honestly don't know what point you're making.
It is almost 5:00 a.m. here - so that may have something to do with my inability to "get" what it is you're saying.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:07 PM - Edit history (1)
that is now being flung against supporters of Sanders. Right down to the use of the word "savior" and the implication that most of us are too stupid to recognize that he's just a human being.
Handy little meme to toss around against any candidate who challenges the rigid Democratic Machine.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I support Sanders even though I regard him as a fallible human being and I sometimes disagree with him.
Sanders went from single digits in the polls to getting more than 40% of the vote against a candidate who had the overwhelming support of the party establishment. He did so while being unafraid to use that dreaded "S" word (no, not "savior" that so terrifies most of our elected officials. No fair-minded person can deny that he is, in many ways, an exceptional politician. Nevertheless, to say that his supporters can't think for themselves is just stupid.
I wonder whether that kind of insult will be allowed here after June 20.
QC
(26,371 posts)please while others will get the smackdown if they venture any comment other than praise for The Leader.
You know, just like always.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Skinner doesn't want incivility here but also doesn't want to overrule juries. He may find those two goals incompatible, if the Clinton supporters take the bit in their teeth.
In fact, he may find that they need to be brought to heel.
QC
(26,371 posts)Most of the ugliness here is the work of a very small group, and most of them have been at it for years. In that time, they have received one lifeline/bailout/amnesty after another. I think civility isn't really a big concern here.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Easily made i'm sure.
Ino
(3,366 posts)three-dimensional chess
she's got them where she wants them now
rope-a-dope
She's keeping her powder dry.
While the country is further compromised in favor of the 1%.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)So he's got this.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)him in order to unify the party.
Clinton's opponent has no interest in helping her unify the party or defeat Trump.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)if she were to be presented in such a way.
Also, like it or not that piece of stagecraft at the convention involved presenting Obama as an alpha male asserting his dominance.
Women don't get to run that particular play.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)it just doesn't work. if a woman tries to assert herself, there's a backlash unless people are already really positively disposed to her.
boys show leadership, girls get called bossy
needledriver
(836 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
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leeroysphitz
(10,462 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I don't go in the BS group either, not really interested in echo chambers.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Sorry, I was a bit too dry...
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)whereas Clinton isn't.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)I absolutely love your sig line photo.