2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA "ginormous upraised middle finger" to the Sanders campaign?
I don't know if Lambert is correct or not, but $2,700 for a ticket to Hillary's fundraiser and $27,000 for a photo are interesting number selections given context and all that.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/06/200pm-water-cooler-6172016.html
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UPDATE Hillary Clinton will hold a fundraiser with the entire House and Senate Democratic leadership next week, the first event of its kind for the presumptive Democratic nominee [Politico]. Tickets cost $2,700, but $27,000 gets you named as a host, and a photo with Clinton. Since Clinton is famously detail-oriented, $2,700 and $27,000 can only be regard as a ginormous upraised middle finger to the oft-quoted $27 average donation of the Sanders campaign, to the Sanders funding model, and to those $27 Sanders donors as well. Message: I dont care.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/clinton-fundraiser-democrats-house-senate-224477
Clinton to hold fundraiser with House and Senate Democrats
By JAKE SHERMAN 06/17/16 09:30 AM EDT
Hillary Clinton will hold a fundraiser with the entire House and Senate Democratic leadership next week, the first event of its kind for the presumptive Democratic nominee.
The event will be held June 21 in Washington, and will feature Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.), Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), Sen. Chuck Schumer (N.Y.), Sen. Patty Murray (Wash.), Sen. Debbie Stabenow (Mich.) and Sen. Jon Tester (Mont.).
From the House side, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (Md.), Rep. Jim Clyburn (S.C.), Rep. Xavier Becerra (Calif.), Rep. Joe Crowley (N.Y.), Rep. Ben Ray Lujan (N.M.) and Rep. Steve Israel (N.Y.) will all attend.
Tickets cost $2,700, but $27,000 gets you named as a host, and a photo with Clinton.
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Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)MH1
(17,595 posts)not the rules you might think are more moral.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Does that apply to using a private server while SOS? She seems to have broken "the rules" then? Should she be punished?
MH1
(17,595 posts)Unless you think President Trump would be a positive outcome.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)I'd say that not accepting corporate money by breaking the rules would be serving the greater good.
I don't give a rip about her incompetence in handling emails but I do care about her coziness with the capitalists and taking money from them.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)IMO and all that. War and fracking and the TPP and increased H-1B visas = punishment.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)And these anti-Democratic Party threads stop.
Beginning Monday, we're on our way to help Hillary win.
Considering the Republican alternative, I'm hoping all of the DU community jumps on board.
Gothmog
(145,046 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Campaign funds running off for a handshake w the pope. Unreal.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)his way. You can't fund a presidential campaign on talks of a movement. Sorry but talk doesn't pay the bills and conventions and campaign ads are expensive. This much Sanders should know.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Willing to accrue any debt. It's a great idea on how to campaign, but..... Unrealistic.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...he is subjected to ridicule and accusations of hypocrisy here at DU from the Hillary crowd.
You do have a point, and I don't know if you are one of those who ridiculed Bernie regarding superdelegates. But your point applies in both cases.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)apcalc
(4,463 posts)elleng
(130,825 posts)Seems to fit with the unfriendly approach of many.
Heckuva way to run a 'railroad.'
Response to Karmadillo (Original post)
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Beacool
(30,247 posts)Therefore, if there are people who can give $2,700, good for them and for the party.
Or do you want Democrats to just take $27 donations and hope for the best?
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)Raising money for congressional elections is going to be hugely important in 2016. By holding this fundraiser, Hillary is kicking off that campaign effort. Her intent is to get as many Democrats elected to Congress as possible. That should be a goal every one of us shares.
She'll also campaign with many of those candidates for House and Senate offices in person in their states. This can be the Democrats' year to shine and to regain control of the Senate and make serious gains in the House.
I say, "You go, Hillary!" about this fundraiser.
It's far from giving the finger to anyone. Not even close. It's the beginning of the general election season. That's all.
PJMcK
(22,023 posts)When she's elected president, Secretary Clinton will need all of the legislative assistance she can get. Just look at how difficult Republicans have made it for President Obama to accomplish his goals.
She's trying to help Democrats, as we all should.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)We may be able to flip two House districts here in November.
Fingers crossed, and ready to campaign.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)MineralMan
(146,281 posts)campaign, too. The rest goes to the legislative candidate's campaigns or DNCC efforts. Hillary's raising money for congressional candidates, and will continue to do so through the general election.
Brava!
Hillary 2016!
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Doesnt seem too nefarious to me.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)That's an important role for a presidential candidate. Helping congressional candidates is one of the leader of the party's jobs. She's getting started on taking that role. Anyone who is surprised or alarmed by this simply doesn't understand how all of this works.
Someday, perhaps, we'll move away from this kind of campaign funding, but it won't be in 2016. Until public funding becomes the law, money will be needed, and those who can donate will be encouraged to donate.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)none.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)I wasnt sure about the 27k figure but it makes sense to me. Keeps things easy.
brooklynite
(94,461 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)Lots of ginormous middle fingers this season, but I'm a Sanders supporter and if the implication is she picked the $2700/$27,000 figures as a dig at Sanders and his supporters I don't think that's the case. I think it's just the max under the rules. Now, I have my own thoughts about these kind of high end fundraisers. I much prefer Bernie's style of fundraising, but there ya are.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)and I completely agree.
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)to make it an insult.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Last thing we need is to invent more!
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)that Democrats are a bunch of dirty dogs? Really?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)It will take a boatload of money to win the presidency and another boatload to win a Senate majority. The Koch's alone will put up about $1 billion. Mr. Casino will probably go another $500 million himself. It takes a very naive person to not understand this fact. This issues that will face this country in the next couple of years are staggering. One of those issues to to get money out of elections. Right now it is like the question about the chicken or the egg. No matter which came first, neither can go on without the other. Sanders supporters should understand that even though he spent millions, and usually outspent Hilary, that still does not guarantee a win.
MattP
(3,304 posts)But yes the whole world revolves around Bernie
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Bernie's $27 campaign was a play on that, no the other way around.
2 more days.
earthshine
(1,642 posts)You can leave now.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)I doubt it has anything to do with Bernie.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)don't forget us! We are being too loud and annoying for the train to run on time.
LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)for her campaign and many other Democrats who are running.
I know that it would be better if politicians didn't have to do this sort of thing to get elected/stay elected, but that is the system we have and that is the system we must work with.
This has nothing to do with Sanders or his campaign.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)$2700 is the maximum donation under federal law. That was the case before Bernie Sanders announced his candidacy, let alone touted his average donation size.
Seriously, this is dumber than anything HA Goodman or Seth Abramson wrote.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)See how nice and generous she is?
brooklynite
(94,461 posts)It's what I contributed to an even for the Primary, and what I'll contribute for the GE...
Sorry if your purity is offended, but Bernie's model wouldn't have scaled up to the $1 BILLION needed for a GE race. I'll go with the candidate who can raise the money she needs.
brooklynite
(94,461 posts)I understand he can snap his fingers and collect a couple million overnight.
Or (considering he never announced his fundraising for May) maybe he's lost his edge?
RandySF
(58,661 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Money. Sanders will need some help in retiring his campaign donations of $2700 from individuals, it would come from fund raising such as these. Would those complaining rather raise the money doing car washes and spaghetti dinners?
Squinch
(50,934 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)RandySF
(58,661 posts)MFM008
(19,803 posts)She needs to go into the convention with one.
She will probably do that within the month.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)have to do the same thing as hillary with fund raisers. do they think he can run against the republicans with 20 million.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)government corruption.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Gothmog
(145,046 posts)This thread is sad but zmusing. After convention, I can start giving morr to the Clinton campaign