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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:57 PM Jun 2016

A "ginormous upraised middle finger" to the Sanders campaign?

I don't know if Lambert is correct or not, but $2,700 for a ticket to Hillary's fundraiser and $27,000 for a photo are interesting number selections given context and all that.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/06/200pm-water-cooler-6172016.html

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UPDATE “Hillary Clinton will hold a fundraiser with the entire House and Senate Democratic leadership next week, the first event of its kind for the presumptive Democratic nominee” [Politico]. Tickets cost $2,700, but $27,000 gets you named as a host, and a photo with Clinton.” Since Clinton is famously detail-oriented, $2,700 and $27,000 can only be regard as a ginormous upraised middle finger to the oft-quoted $27 average donation of the Sanders campaign, to the Sanders funding model, and to those $27 Sanders donors as well. Message: “I don’t care.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/clinton-fundraiser-democrats-house-senate-224477

Clinton to hold fundraiser with House and Senate Democrats
By JAKE SHERMAN 06/17/16 09:30 AM EDT

Hillary Clinton will hold a fundraiser with the entire House and Senate Democratic leadership next week, the first event of its kind for the presumptive Democratic nominee.

The event will be held June 21 in Washington, and will feature Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.), Sen. Dick Durbin (Ill.), Sen. Chuck Schumer (N.Y.), Sen. Patty Murray (Wash.), Sen. Debbie Stabenow (Mich.) and Sen. Jon Tester (Mont.).

From the House side, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (Md.), Rep. Jim Clyburn (S.C.), Rep. Xavier Becerra (Calif.), Rep. Joe Crowley (N.Y.), Rep. Ben Ray Lujan (N.M.) and Rep. Steve Israel (N.Y.) will all attend.

Tickets cost $2,700, but $27,000 gets you named as a host, and a photo with Clinton.

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A "ginormous upraised middle finger" to the Sanders campaign? (Original Post) Karmadillo Jun 2016 OP
Is this the same Hillary who decries the influence of money in politics? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #1
Gotta play the game with the rules currently in place, MH1 Jun 2016 #9
Will she be punished if she breaks "the rules"? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #11
We will all be punished. MH1 Jun 2016 #16
So breaking rules is forgivable if it serves the "greater good"? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #21
Bernie broke rules with his trip to Rome. Why not question that? tonyt53 Jun 2016 #27
Hillary or Trump - we will all be punished. djean111 Jun 2016 #30
Three more days. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #62
Yeah Gothmog Jun 2016 #66
Hillary didn't break any rules. Quit making crap up. SharonClark Jun 2016 #49
You gotta love this punitive and petty bullshit coming from people who excuse his huge misuse of bettyellen Jun 2016 #63
Agreed. If Trump ever gets his act together, those GOP donors are ready to dump a ton of money politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #40
Yep, I was reading analysis that he pulled lots of ads he needed because he was not willing bettyellen Jun 2016 #64
And yet when Sanders tries to woo superdelegates... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #58
It's cool, she told them to cut it out! n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #33
Good to raise money to fight the R's! apcalc Jun 2016 #2
Surprised? elleng Jun 2016 #3
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #4
This is for the general election. Democrats will need plenty of money to counter Republicans. Beacool Jun 2016 #5
Hell, if I could afford it, I'd be there. MineralMan Jun 2016 #6
Exactly! PJMcK Jun 2016 #32
I'll be doing my part in Minnesota. MineralMan Jun 2016 #36
$2700 is the individual max, isnt it? bunnies Jun 2016 #7
Yes, it is. Many people donated that much to the Sanders MineralMan Jun 2016 #10
Thats what I thought. bunnies Jun 2016 #12
Nope. Not at all. MineralMan Jun 2016 #18
I have no isssue with her taking $27000 ea from members of Congress. bunnies Jun 2016 #20
Yes and the 27k amount was around before BS and will be around long after BS. grossproffit Jun 2016 #17
Thanks. bunnies Jun 2016 #22
The $27 K number is arbitrary...all it means is you convince 10 OTHER people to contribute $2700. brooklynite Jun 2016 #46
Yes...this is common knowledge...the article is just trying to incite people. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #19
Theres no shortage of those, unfortunately. nt bunnies Jun 2016 #23
Yes, pretty sure that's the case. TDale313 Jun 2016 #24
Im a Sanders supporter too... bunnies Jun 2016 #29
Yes. But there are some who want WhiteTara Jun 2016 #25
Like we dont have enough insults flying around? bunnies Jun 2016 #31
Truth! WhiteTara Jun 2016 #34
Yes, 2700 for the primary and 2700 for the general. nt Snotcicles Jun 2016 #59
Sorry about the fleas, but I hope you got a good night's rest. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #8
Are you saying WhiteTara Jun 2016 #37
3 more days. leftofcool Jun 2016 #56
OMG! GET THE *SANE PROGRESSIVE ON THIS NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! grossproffit Jun 2016 #13
If people think that in this election that it won't take lots of money to win, they are very naive. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #14
It's the other way around 27$ is mocking the 2700$ max MattP Jun 2016 #15
What was I thinking? WhiteTara Jun 2016 #28
On this board it appears to be so...... Beacool Jun 2016 #38
Lame $2700 is the individual max. been for awhile itsrobert Jun 2016 #26
Why wait two days? earthshine Jun 2016 #39
$2,700 is the maximum an individual can give and $27,000 is a group of ten bundled. upaloopa Jun 2016 #35
And to millions of people felix_numinous Jun 2016 #41
She's raising money for the general election LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #42
This is the derpiest derp that's ever been derped by the derp squad. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #43
And yet Hillary allowed Bernie to meet with her for free. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #44
or...$2,700 is and has been the max contribution for the past two years... brooklynite Jun 2016 #45
Tell you what...how about Sanders sends out a fundraising request for Hillary Clinton? brooklynite Jun 2016 #47
What does this have to do with Sanders? RandySF Jun 2016 #48
Nothing, if one knows anything about politics or generally tries to be rational nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #50
When Sanders accepted $10,000 from campaign fund raising by Hillary now perhaps he should return the Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #51
We're not allowed to say 27? Because BS said it? Can we use the word "and?" Squinch Jun 2016 #52
Derp. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #53
The federal contribution limit is $2700 RandySF Jun 2016 #54
Wait till she picks her VP MFM008 Jun 2016 #55
what i don't get is why do bernie supporters think he wouldn't okieinpain Jun 2016 #57
Best government money can buy! Bernie has been pointing to this kind of B Calm Jun 2016 #60
right back atcha ibegurpard Jun 2016 #61
I am a maxed out Clinton primary donor Gothmog Jun 2016 #65
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
11. Will she be punished if she breaks "the rules"?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jun 2016

Does that apply to using a private server while SOS? She seems to have broken "the rules" then? Should she be punished?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
21. So breaking rules is forgivable if it serves the "greater good"?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jun 2016

I'd say that not accepting corporate money by breaking the rules would be serving the greater good.

I don't give a rip about her incompetence in handling emails but I do care about her coziness with the capitalists and taking money from them.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
30. Hillary or Trump - we will all be punished.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jun 2016

IMO and all that. War and fracking and the TPP and increased H-1B visas = punishment.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
62. Three more days.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jun 2016

And these anti-Democratic Party threads stop.

Beginning Monday, we're on our way to help Hillary win.

Considering the Republican alternative, I'm hoping all of the DU community jumps on board.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
63. You gotta love this punitive and petty bullshit coming from people who excuse his huge misuse of
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:48 PM
Jun 2016

Campaign funds running off for a handshake w the pope. Unreal.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
40. Agreed. If Trump ever gets his act together, those GOP donors are ready to dump a ton of money
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jun 2016

his way. You can't fund a presidential campaign on talks of a movement. Sorry but talk doesn't pay the bills and conventions and campaign ads are expensive. This much Sanders should know.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
64. Yep, I was reading analysis that he pulled lots of ads he needed because he was not willing
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jun 2016

Willing to accrue any debt. It's a great idea on how to campaign, but..... Unrealistic.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
58. And yet when Sanders tries to woo superdelegates...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jun 2016

...he is subjected to ridicule and accusations of hypocrisy here at DU from the Hillary crowd.

You do have a point, and I don't know if you are one of those who ridiculed Bernie regarding superdelegates. But your point applies in both cases.

Response to Karmadillo (Original post)

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
5. This is for the general election. Democrats will need plenty of money to counter Republicans.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jun 2016

Therefore, if there are people who can give $2,700, good for them and for the party.

Or do you want Democrats to just take $27 donations and hope for the best?

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
6. Hell, if I could afford it, I'd be there.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jun 2016

Raising money for congressional elections is going to be hugely important in 2016. By holding this fundraiser, Hillary is kicking off that campaign effort. Her intent is to get as many Democrats elected to Congress as possible. That should be a goal every one of us shares.

She'll also campaign with many of those candidates for House and Senate offices in person in their states. This can be the Democrats' year to shine and to regain control of the Senate and make serious gains in the House.

I say, "You go, Hillary!" about this fundraiser.

It's far from giving the finger to anyone. Not even close. It's the beginning of the general election season. That's all.

PJMcK

(22,023 posts)
32. Exactly!
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jun 2016

When she's elected president, Secretary Clinton will need all of the legislative assistance she can get. Just look at how difficult Republicans have made it for President Obama to accomplish his goals.

She's trying to help Democrats, as we all should.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
36. I'll be doing my part in Minnesota.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

We may be able to flip two House districts here in November.

Fingers crossed, and ready to campaign.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
10. Yes, it is. Many people donated that much to the Sanders
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jun 2016

campaign, too. The rest goes to the legislative candidate's campaigns or DNCC efforts. Hillary's raising money for congressional candidates, and will continue to do so through the general election.

Brava!

Hillary 2016!

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
18. Nope. Not at all.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jun 2016

That's an important role for a presidential candidate. Helping congressional candidates is one of the leader of the party's jobs. She's getting started on taking that role. Anyone who is surprised or alarmed by this simply doesn't understand how all of this works.

Someday, perhaps, we'll move away from this kind of campaign funding, but it won't be in 2016. Until public funding becomes the law, money will be needed, and those who can donate will be encouraged to donate.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
24. Yes, pretty sure that's the case.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:20 PM
Jun 2016

Lots of ginormous middle fingers this season, but I'm a Sanders supporter and if the implication is she picked the $2700/$27,000 figures as a dig at Sanders and his supporters I don't think that's the case. I think it's just the max under the rules. Now, I have my own thoughts about these kind of high end fundraisers. I much prefer Bernie's style of fundraising, but there ya are.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
14. If people think that in this election that it won't take lots of money to win, they are very naive.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jun 2016

It will take a boatload of money to win the presidency and another boatload to win a Senate majority. The Koch's alone will put up about $1 billion. Mr. Casino will probably go another $500 million himself. It takes a very naive person to not understand this fact. This issues that will face this country in the next couple of years are staggering. One of those issues to to get money out of elections. Right now it is like the question about the chicken or the egg. No matter which came first, neither can go on without the other. Sanders supporters should understand that even though he spent millions, and usually outspent Hilary, that still does not guarantee a win.

MattP

(3,304 posts)
15. It's the other way around 27$ is mocking the 2700$ max
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jun 2016

But yes the whole world revolves around Bernie

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
26. Lame $2700 is the individual max. been for awhile
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie's $27 campaign was a play on that, no the other way around.

2 more days.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
35. $2,700 is the maximum an individual can give and $27,000 is a group of ten bundled.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

I doubt it has anything to do with Bernie.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
41. And to millions of people
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jun 2016

don't forget us! We are being too loud and annoying for the train to run on time.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
42. She's raising money for the general election
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jun 2016

for her campaign and many other Democrats who are running.

I know that it would be better if politicians didn't have to do this sort of thing to get elected/stay elected, but that is the system we have and that is the system we must work with.

This has nothing to do with Sanders or his campaign.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
43. This is the derpiest derp that's ever been derped by the derp squad.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jun 2016

$2700 is the maximum donation under federal law. That was the case before Bernie Sanders announced his candidacy, let alone touted his average donation size.

Seriously, this is dumber than anything HA Goodman or Seth Abramson wrote.

brooklynite

(94,461 posts)
45. or...$2,700 is and has been the max contribution for the past two years...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jun 2016

It's what I contributed to an even for the Primary, and what I'll contribute for the GE...

Sorry if your purity is offended, but Bernie's model wouldn't have scaled up to the $1 BILLION needed for a GE race. I'll go with the candidate who can raise the money she needs.

brooklynite

(94,461 posts)
47. Tell you what...how about Sanders sends out a fundraising request for Hillary Clinton?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jun 2016

I understand he can snap his fingers and collect a couple million overnight.

Or (considering he never announced his fundraising for May) maybe he's lost his edge?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
51. When Sanders accepted $10,000 from campaign fund raising by Hillary now perhaps he should return the
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jun 2016

Money. Sanders will need some help in retiring his campaign donations of $2700 from individuals, it would come from fund raising such as these. Would those complaining rather raise the money doing car washes and spaghetti dinners?

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
55. Wait till she picks her VP
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jun 2016

She needs to go into the convention with one.
She will probably do that within the month.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
57. what i don't get is why do bernie supporters think he wouldn't
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jun 2016

have to do the same thing as hillary with fund raisers. do they think he can run against the republicans with 20 million.

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
65. I am a maxed out Clinton primary donor
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:35 PM
Jun 2016

This thread is sad but zmusing. After convention, I can start giving morr to the Clinton campaign

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