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ThinkCritically

(241 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:23 PM Jun 2016

Hillary already scored my vote

But this is what will change my mind if it keeps happening...

1. Telling 12+ million people their voices are irrelevant.
2. Attempting to force Bernie to concede before the convention.
3. Continuing to call Sanders supporters sexist and racist.
4. Accusing Sanders and his supporters of not being Democrats
5. Saying real liberal policies are too ambitious

It's honestly getting old fast. If you hate Bernie Sanders, so be it. But don't degrade and dehumanize his supporters in the process. Many of them are life long democrats that you are pushing out of the party. I have a lot of qualms about Hillary Clinton but I never once directed that at her supporters. In fact, I decided to vote for her to help keep the party intact. But yall are making it extremely difficult to go through with it. We need to unify. That means accepting that parts of Bernies platform get implemented and Bernie supporters vote for Hillary in November. And one won't happen without the other.

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Hillary already scored my vote (Original Post) ThinkCritically Jun 2016 OP
Tick tock, tick tock n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #1
I have no doubt that there WhiteTara Jun 2016 #2
He will after the convention ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #4
A contested convention like 2008? grossproffit Jun 2016 #7
What is your description of a contested convention? Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #11
Contested? Yikes WhiteTara Jun 2016 #13
How about having Bernie do a trust fall? brooklynite Jun 2016 #14
If you think the convention will be contested, you don't understand the concept of contested. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #16
Do not confuse the candidate and some of her supporters here on DU. Mass Jun 2016 #3
Exactly. The quarrelsom drivel of people here Hortensis Jun 2016 #5
I am so #berndout eom. MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #6
He should have had enough class to do point 2. Beacool Jun 2016 #8
And who is saying those things that could make you change your mind? Hillary or anonymous internet Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #9
1,3,4,5, OK. But #2, Bernie should concede before the convention. YouDig Jun 2016 #10
Seriously? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #12
I think you're conflating some Clinton supporters with Hillary herself. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #15
Tick tock tick tock! leftofcool Jun 2016 #17
Yeah RobertEarl Jun 2016 #18

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
2. I have no doubt that there
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jun 2016

will be planks inserted by Bernie's people. But he really should congratulate the presumptive nominee on her historic win. So far he hasn't done that even though he knows he lost.

 

ThinkCritically

(241 posts)
4. He will after the convention
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

along with his supporters. But to get to that point, Hillary and her supporters need to calm down and accept the reality. It is a contested convention.

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
13. Contested? Yikes
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jun 2016

There will be no contest. Super delegates vote on the first round and Hillary will have MORE than enough votes to close the deal. I just keep wondering what BS supporters are thinking. Raul Grijvala switched his vote from Bernie to Hillary and the way it is going, Bernie's going to end up with just one super delegate vote...his own.

There's also talk that if he doesn't endorse before the convention, he won't have a speaking slot.



 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
14. How about having Bernie do a trust fall?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

He can release his delegates and 'trust" that they'll all still vote for him if he holds out until the Convention.

What do you say?

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
16. If you think the convention will be contested, you don't understand the concept of contested.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jun 2016

It requires that one of the candidates not clearly have a majority of delegates.

Conspiracies and bad math notwithstanding, one of the candidates has a clear majority.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
3. Do not confuse the candidate and some of her supporters here on DU.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

While I have a hard time understand some people here who think it is good politics to attack Sanders and try to silence him when he has clearly said Trump should not be allowed to win and that he would help Secretary Clinton about that.

At this point, I do not think Secretary Clinton says your point 1 to 4 any more.

I will support her because I agree with Sanders that Trump is not an acceptable choice anywhere close to the White House (or any Republican candidate who could replace him), and, as it is my ultimate objective, I do not foresee anything foreseeable that will make me change my min.

Beacool

(30,518 posts)
8. He should have had enough class to do point 2.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jun 2016

Just as Hillary did in 2008. That is a valid criticism. Let's be honest, his supporters would be lambasting Hillary if she had been the one who lost and refused to concede when it's more than evident that it's over.

Arkansas Granny

(32,265 posts)
9. And who is saying those things that could make you change your mind? Hillary or anonymous internet
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jun 2016

posters? Hillary is not the source of the statements you refer to. Don't blame Hillary for things she hasn't said.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
10. 1,3,4,5, OK. But #2, Bernie should concede before the convention.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jun 2016

Nobody can force him to, but he's not acting in the best interests of the party or the country right now. Hillary lost, it was much much closer, and she didn't make any list of ransom demands or act like she was robbed or any of that. She conceded, unified the party. He should do that.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. Seriously?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jun 2016
But this is what will change my mind if it keeps happening...
You'd not vote, or change your vote, because anonymous posters on an internet political forum offended you?

Wow.

Accusing Sanders and his supporters of not being Democrats

Actually, a great many Sanders supporters here have gone to extraordinary lengths to make it exceedingly clear that they are not Democrats.

Go figure.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
15. I think you're conflating some Clinton supporters with Hillary herself.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:25 PM
Jun 2016

Which is easy to do, for supporters of both candidates. From what I recall, she hasn't personally done most of those.

As for #4, many Sanders supporters both on DU and in the real world aren't Democrats - they're Independents, Greens, etc., as many of them remind us frequently. I think your frustration with that one might be a bit misplaced.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
18. Yeah
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:50 PM
Jun 2016

Instead of dividing Trump voters, they are working hard to divide Bernie voters from the Democratic party.

I wish Skinner would put an end to it.

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