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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:45 PM Jun 2016

Clinton campaign shrugs off Sanders

Hothead supporters such as myself should probably follow suit.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/283963-clinton-camp-shrugs-off-sanders

Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign is shrugging off the refusal by Bernie Sanders to concede the Democratic primary.

Clinton aides and allies say they’ve moved on to focus solely on Donald Trump, the presumptive GOP nominee.

They expect Sanders will eventually offer an endorsement, and say they are content to give him the space he needs to get there.

“At this point, Bernie Sanders is an after thought,” one former Clinton aide said, adding that “the world has moved on.”

“Now it is about Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump. We are now in full general election mode,” the former aide added.


Time to walk the walk and go into general election mode.

My last post on the 2016 primary, and Bernie Sanders (I promise!)

Chill out, she's got this.
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Clinton campaign shrugs off Sanders (Original Post) geek tragedy Jun 2016 OP
Just ignore him. Everyone else does. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #1
the trash can filter in user settings is something I'm learning to use nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #2
No, 46% of the Democratic vote not only don't ignore him - they trust him and highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #6
43% Lord Magus Jun 2016 #13
I love how expert you all think you are on human behavior. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #65
"Just ignore him. Everyone else does". Transparency. Too bad it's going away. Autumn Jun 2016 #7
Yep. And the alerting on every one of my posts which all the Bernie people have been doing. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #9
No, you keep insulting people and getting hides AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #11
A page that will be clean on Monday. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #15
16 hides in three months Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #21
There will be a stiffer penalty for alerts that dont work Gomez163 Jun 2016 #23
Cuz you say so! AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #24
Cuz I read the announcement. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #25
Better read it again. pintobean Jun 2016 #33
You have 16 alerts that worked Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #29
F the Giants Gomez163 Jun 2016 #30
And then you wonder why people alert on you Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #32
And about 2000 that didnt work Gomez163 Jun 2016 #31
And a 17th that did work it would appear Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #34
Stick a fork in him pintobean Jun 2016 #35
I just got back from a two week time out with a total of four hides and less than 10 in a decade. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #42
More persecution. n/t QC Jun 2016 #44
BSS go into our protected group to get hides. Pretty sad redstateblues Jun 2016 #56
Oh Such undeserved hides. Autumn Jun 2016 #12
I have Obamacare. It was a joke (You Bernie people are humorless) Gomez163 Jun 2016 #14
Except you folks AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #10
I was one of the first rock Jun 2016 #64
Good. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #3
she will pick a VP soon MFM008 Jun 2016 #4
Sort like humoring Uncle Bernie (every family has one) Get off my lawn!!! Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #5
"Good for Hillary. She has class." Moreso than most of John Poet Jun 2016 #60
She does. I should be nicer too. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #63
I think they are realizing that anyone who is even remotely liberal will come over to her side eastwestdem Jun 2016 #8
no need to, she can win without our votes swhisper1 Jun 2016 #54
There really is no other choice KingFlorez Jun 2016 #16
She's got this mcar Jun 2016 #17
Yeah she's got it....Let's hope she doesn't drop it this time Armstead Jun 2016 #27
Sadly, Sanders thinks he's more important than he actually is. He can't control his ego. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #18
Smart attitude. Beacool Jun 2016 #19
Hillary and her campaign are moving on NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #20
"shrugs" sounds very dismissive... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #22
at the risk of breaking my own promise in the OP, geek tragedy Jun 2016 #36
He has acknowledged it. But, for his supporters, he has to lead them there as well... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #38
I think my best contribution is to keep my big mouth shut geek tragedy Jun 2016 #39
No, GT, I sincerely respect you... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #43
in order to avoid alienating, I'll need about a week of keeping my mouth shut. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #46
I've let my dander get the best of me a few times during the primaries... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #47
Okay if you do, but come back. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #48
I'm not done talking, just not talking about the part geek tragedy Jun 2016 #62
He has not conceded Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #52
Best post I've read on this issue Haveadream Jun 2016 #58
Nah 43 percent doesn't matter. Just an afterthiought Armstead Jun 2016 #26
Yes, those who treated like crap for over a year don't really merit special treatment. RandySF Jun 2016 #28
Time to put all of that behind us, and merge into a singular force... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #41
I doubt all will stay home...but what about the 57% that didn't vote for him? nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #53
If you only focus on that 57 percent and ignore and insult the 43 percent you start weakened Armstead Jun 2016 #66
Obviously, Sanders wasn't running for V-P. Moving on, who will be the V-P? Coyotl Jun 2016 #37
Good for her. The biggest mistake she cold make is trying to please people who will lunamagica Jun 2016 #40
A lot of truth in that statement: "The biggest mistake she could make is trying to please people FSogol Jun 2016 #49
she makes alot of mistakes, whoppers in fact swhisper1 Jun 2016 #55
I will use you as my inspiration, geek. I'm right behind you. Thanks. Squinch Jun 2016 #45
oy vey. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #50
There really isn't much else they can do. SaschaHM Jun 2016 #51
“At this point, Bernie Sanders is an after thought,” Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #57
Well, she has all the repugs on her side, who sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #59
Good! I'm happy there's a clear line between her and Bernie. nt riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #61
 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
6. No, 46% of the Democratic vote not only don't ignore him - they trust him and
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jun 2016

look up to him and count on him doin the right thing. Which for them or at least me is to fight for Progressive values wherever he can.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
13. 43%
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jun 2016

And most of the people who voted for Bernie have already moved on to supporting the nominee in the GE.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
11. No, you keep insulting people and getting hides
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jun 2016

There are lots of belligerent Hillary supporters whose T-pages are NOT showing.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
21. 16 hides in three months
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:19 PM
Jun 2016

Yeah, I don't think losing your transparency page will matter. You won't last.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
29. You have 16 alerts that worked
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jun 2016

And even if we remove the 4-3 decisions you would still be at 9. I stand by my previous statement.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
34. And a 17th that did work it would appear
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016

As you got flagged for review in the middle of this posting

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
42. I just got back from a two week time out with a total of four hides and less than 10 in a decade.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jun 2016

I'm curious to see how long this clown's gone before coming back.

Autumn

(44,980 posts)
12. Oh Such undeserved hides.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:01 PM
Jun 2016
My favorite was the one where you said Bernie gets "Obummercare" I remembered that so well, I never heard a dem refer to it as "Obummercare" . Obamacare, yes because Obama cared enough to get it passed but your "Obummercare" hidden post took it to a while new level.

And yes that hide is on your transparency page.

rock

(13,218 posts)
64. I was one of the first
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jun 2016

It was a month or so ago I started calling him irrelevant. Except for remaining extremely annoying.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
5. Sort like humoring Uncle Bernie (every family has one) Get off my lawn!!!
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:49 PM
Jun 2016

Good for Hillary. She has class.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
60. "Good for Hillary. She has class." Moreso than most of
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jun 2016

her supporters here, it would appear.

Many of them need to take a damn chill pill.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
8. I think they are realizing that anyone who is even remotely liberal will come over to her side
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jun 2016

eventually. The diehard Sanders folks would likely vote Green or Independent anyway.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
16. There really is no other choice
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jun 2016

If he doesn't want to move on that is fine, but that's his problem alone.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
19. Smart attitude.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jun 2016

Her campaign can't force him to be gracious and concede, as she did in 2008. Therefore, they'll move on and work on defeating Trump.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
20. Hillary and her campaign are moving on
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jun 2016

to the important thing of defeating Trump. So should we! Start GOTV now!

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
22. "shrugs" sounds very dismissive...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jun 2016

...and, quite frankly, is quite rude to Senator Sanders and his supporters.

Do yourself, and, *especially* Secretary Clinton a HUGE favor and EMBRACE Senator Sanders' supporters into your fold. Yes, she has clinched the nom - no one (except for a few dead-enders) , INCLUDING Senator Sanders, is disputing that at this point. But, to denigrate him and his supporters NOW is driving away votes from Secretary Clinton (most likely to Dr Jill Stein, less so to Governor Johnson).

GT, I want to win this for the Democratic nominee as much as you do, but I need your, and other Secretary Clinton supporters, help. Please???

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
36. at the risk of breaking my own promise in the OP,
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jun 2016

I really don't see what more can be done for those who are highly invested in his campaign, until he acknowledges the legitimacy, and existence, of her win, and that his supporters need to figure out a way to work with her supporters, rather than seeing her and her supporters as a faceless wall of establishmentarian corporatism.

He's still acting as if Clinton's supporters are the obstacles to reforms, and the bad guys in his morality play. Until he drops the sanctimonious dismissal of the 55% of the party that didn't vote for him, and instead shows actual leadership, sorry the best we can do is pretend he doesn't exist. We can't treat him as an ally until he presents himself as such, so the best we can do is stop treating him like a foe.


 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
38. He has acknowledged it. But, for his supporters, he has to lead them there as well...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

That is the dance that's taking place now.

We're all on the same side. I'm simply pleading for an accord.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
39. I think my best contribution is to keep my big mouth shut
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:04 PM
Jun 2016

right now. I expect there's a great deal of consensus on this point, especially amongst the Bernie supporters.



 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
43. No, GT, I sincerely respect you...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jun 2016

...and I respect your devotion to the Democratic nominee, who will be our candidate in the GE. I simply ask that you try to refrain from alienating them. As I've said, at the end of the day, we are ALL on the same side.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
47. I've let my dander get the best of me a few times during the primaries...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jun 2016

...but November's staring down its barrel at us. And, there AIN'T no way Ima gonna let THEM win, my friend! : )

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
48. Okay if you do, but come back.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jun 2016

I'm a loyal reader. You post interesting material and your perspectives are worth reading.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
62. I'm not done talking, just not talking about the part
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jun 2016

that is over. Primary is history, look forward not backward.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
26. Nah 43 percent doesn't matter. Just an afterthiought
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jun 2016

Aside from the long-term prospects of a shriveling Democratic base, I just hope Trump doesn't implode so much that the GOP actually decides to replace him with an electable candidate.

Then, the level of support Bernie has had won't seem so irrelevant.

This seems apropos :
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512197691

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
41. Time to put all of that behind us, and merge into a singular force...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jun 2016

I could, but will not, at this point of the contest, place blame with the "those" you're referring to.

It's this simple; let the bygones be fucking bygones re: the contentious primary season. Time to re-take the WH. The contender on the other side is, in the first time in my memory (and I've been in this for 44 yrs), DANGEROUS!

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
66. If you only focus on that 57 percent and ignore and insult the 43 percent you start weakened
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jun 2016

The percentages are fluid obviously......People make their voting choices based on a combination of reasons...Many people who voted for Cliinton also believe in the principles Sanders is pushing for. And many people who voted for Sanders are okay with Clinton, or at least see her as preferable to trump.

But in the big picture, if you act like the 57 percent are all that matters -- and insult Sanders and his supporters and behave as though none of the things Sanders has been pushing for matte,r then you are weakening the Democratic party base both for this election and the future.

Even with the fluidity I mentioned, do you really want to start out with a base of 57 percent, and push 43 percent away?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
37. Obviously, Sanders wasn't running for V-P. Moving on, who will be the V-P?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jun 2016

The next Vice-President of the United States should be whom? Anyone heard the rumors about Dorgan?

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
40. Good for her. The biggest mistake she cold make is trying to please people who will
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

never vote for her. Gore made that mistake, and it cost him dearly.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
49. A lot of truth in that statement: "The biggest mistake she could make is trying to please people
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jun 2016

who will never vote for her. Gore made that mistake, and it cost him dearly."


SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
51. There really isn't much else they can do.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jun 2016

The campaigns are talking through back channels, of course, but barring something else happening, Clinton will be the nominee and she needs to be focusing on the general.

Donald Trump is unable to put up ads until after the Republican convention. That's a huge advantage that a campaign has to get the jump on.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
57. “At this point, Bernie Sanders is an after thought,”
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:15 PM
Jun 2016

I.E., he's making himself completely irrelevant. He's certainly free to do so.

I think he prefers being in the role of the victim. I think he likes standing in the yard, shaking his fists at the sun and screaming into the wind. It's more comfortable for him, and more familiar. At this point, he has a secure job, and it's easier than doing the work to actually get things done.



sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
59. Well, she has all the repugs on her side, who
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jun 2016

don't want Trump. So she is sure to win. Then we can call
the party "demopublican". What an achievement!

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