Hillary Clinton invokes unlikely allies on the stump — the Bushes

[chwaliszewski]

Hillary Clinton praised a former president to a crowd of cheering liberal supporters earlier this month as “absolutely committed” and unwavering in his support of one of her causes.

The man she spoke of was not her husband, Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama, whom she hopes to succeed. It was George W. Bush — long one of the left’s most potent villains.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-invokes-unlikely-allies-000000292.html

If this gets locked because of a TOS violation, then I beg your pardon. Sometimes, I don't know which forum it should be posted in so I just make an educated guess. Regardless, this needs to be posted. I realize that the most important thing this fall is to make sure Trump is not president and I completely agree. But I'm not digging the presumptive pandering to conservatives.

[merrily]

1. What's unlikely about it? Dimson has called Bubba his brother from another mother.

[senz]

3. Yep, and he referred to Hillary as his sister-in-law.

They're tight.

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[Fairgo]

6. I just noticed something peculiar about that love fest photo...

Who is that ominous woman in the shadow? Is that Cassandra, contemplating the birth of modern amerikan royalty?

[ms liberty]

52. Reagan's daughter Patty. The pic is from Nancy's funeral n/t

[Autumn]

9. What a strange picture. The woman on the background...

looks like a scene from a movie or something.

[Miles Archer]

15. It's a special feeling. Very, very special.

[Chasstev365]

85. She's as much a Progressive as W was a "Compassionate Conservative."

[Uncle Joe]

2. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, chwaliszewski.

[w4rma]

4. Why is she trying to rehabilitate the Bushes? The Republicans have soundly rejected the Bushes.

Jeb Bush didn't even make 1%, despite being given more political funding and having more name recognition than anyone else.

It's a dumb strategy that just plays into how everyone believes that Clinton, herself, is dishonest.

[Octafish]

17. Bill let Poppy go for Iran-Contra, S&L rip-offs, etc.

Friends.

[PufPuf23]

5. By praising Bush, Hillary Clinton is essentially campaigning against herself in the eyes of

most liberal anti-war Democratic party members.

Weird.

[Miles Archer]

16. But if you've been following the threads here...

you already know that she "doesn't need" the votes of "most liberal anti-war Democratic party members," or the votes of Sanders supporters, or...



There are only a few million things she could focus on, and maybe this isn't the best time for the Bushes to be one of them.

[PufPuf23]

48. I am here nearly every day at DU. Bizarre.

Notice how Sanders was neither mentioned in the OP nor has anything to do with Hillary Clinton being good pals with the Bushes?

Anything that goes wrong from now on will be blamed on the liberal anti-war Democrats that supported Sanders.

Hillary Clinton is morphing into an awkward, unappealing, and tragic figure; this is how she will likely be remembered in history by many.

[swhisper1]

104. very tragic, the same path as Nixon

her colors are showing

[MyNameGoesHere]

7. Only dopes would see this as anything but rounding up

Votes across the party lines. Well except #bernouts.

[NurseJackie]

8. Yep.

You nailed it.



Previously, there was much written about how GREAT it would be that Bernie could reach across party lines and get support from GOPers. It's only bad when Hillary does it, apparently.

[Autumn]

10. Bit of a difference between using issues or using a lying war monger to get those votes.

[NurseJackie]

12. Well, if you'd prefer that she lose, that's entirely up to you.

You guys are really something else.

[Autumn]

13. You saying she needs republican votes to win?

[NurseJackie]

18. No... Trump needs GOP votes to win, silly.

[Autumn]

40. "if you'd prefer that she lose, that's entirely up to you." are you refering to hills or trump

I'm not the silly one confusing he, trump with she, hills But I'm putting you on ignore so it doesn't matter, I see no reason to read or respond to your empty snark

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512200908#post12

Star Member NurseJackie (9,004 posts)
12. Well, if you'd prefer that she lose, that's entirely up to you.



You guys are really something else.
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[NurseJackie]

47. That makes things much easier for me ... I can respond to you and ALWAYS have the last word!

[Buddyblazon]

46. Someone's been pulling nitrous snorts...

while the boss isn't looking.

[choie]

41. You just can't admit that she

has no integrity whatsoever. There's really nothing to laugh about. It's revolting that she campaigns with a war criminal - sad that you're able to justify it.

[leftofcool]

83. tick tock!

[MyNameGoesHere]

21. About as pathetic as using a pope for a prop.

Yes he still did it. I didn't comment on that because I am grownup enough to know the difference between pandering and policy. He should have kissed DWS on the lips and made a few more votes. He didn't, he is a bad politician and a bad politician is not worthy of a vote.

[chwaliszewski]

57. If you're saying that using the Pope as a prop is the same as cozying up to Bush...

then I think you may have some justification issues. The Pope hasn't attacked other countries or lined the pockets of oh, nevermind. Hillary can do no wrong, I get it.

[treestar]

61. This ^^^

In fact it was why we were told we should vote for Bernie as he could do that and beat Trump.

[think]

81. Bernie got support from GOP voters based on issues. He didn't suck up to the war mongering

psychopaths that wrecked the country.

Common sense if you think about it...

[grossproffit]

11. Yep. Our Republican friends started out being anti-Trump, but they're now firmly pro Hillary.

It's the first presidential election that we're all on the same team. It's awesome.

[Beowulf]

92. Who's "all?"

Corporate Democrats and Corporate Republicans? Perhaps Nader was right.

[grossproffit]

93. Our friends + us = all. I was quite clear in my post.

[Beowulf]

96. I agree, you were clear.

[NWCorona]

14. So she's pandering then?

While that is true it still doesn't change the close connections between the Clinton's and Bush family.

[MyNameGoesHere]

19. Yeah politicians pander

And when people grow up they realize that. You know like posing with the Pope pandering

[NWCorona]

20. Politicians pander? I didn't know that lol

[MyNameGoesHere]

22. The biggest pander was "Hey I am a Democrat" perpetrated by Sanders

although I believe his cowardice to remain true to his beliefs played a part in that too

[NWCorona]

25. I'm not surprised that you would think that.

Nothing was more cowardly that Hillary's war vote so she could get money for NY.

[Hydra]

43. She's not rounding up voters

She's speaking to her base and about her new Family.

"This is an impressive crowd. The haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base."
-Shrub

[MyNameGoesHere]

44. Bullshit

I guess Sanders was talking to the Pope about conversion using your logic.

[stevenleser]

97. And crickets in response to you. I'm not surprised. nt

[Herman4747]

77. If she thought it would gain her even more votes...

HILLARY WOULD SELL HER SOUL.

[think]

79. Only dopes would think patronizing the president who lied us into a major war

is a smart tactic to win votes.

How shallow must one be to condone sucking up to potential war criminals? Criminals that sanctified torture and threw our country into debt for a war based on lies.

Bernie's support was from the GOP voters not from the dumb fuckers like Bush who were responsible for the damage done to the American people and this country.

[JoePhilly]

23. Does Bush support "one of her causes?"

Horror or horrors!!!!

[Blue_Adept]

26. A cause which isn't even mentioned in the OP

Which has them just trying to play the Bush card in the expected negative way.

No love for the Bushes to be sure, but even the worst of people can still do good things. By not including what the cause is, it comes across as even more hyper partisan than usual, using a cause as a bludgeon.

[JoePhilly]

27. They're running out of outrges. So they have to manufacture them.

[NWCorona]

29. Definitely more than one.

He said Hillary was his sister and you don't say that unless there's a deep connection.

[JoePhilly]

30. So now you believe and trust whatever Bush says.

Whatever it takes to get the manufactured outrage meter to move.

[NWCorona]

33. On face value definitely not but there's plenty of evidence that backs up his statement.

It's not manufactured and I'm hardly outraged. This is old news I'm talking about.

[JoePhilly]

35. You can tell the end is near this morning by the ...

... number of sad anti-Hillary OPs that have popped up.

Its like some are finally completing their spring cleaning.

[NWCorona]

36. Well the primaries are over.

But does that make the point in this op not true?

[JoePhilly]

37. What "point" exactly?

That the perpetually disgruntled will become more disgruntled by every non-event possible?

[NWCorona]

39. That Hillary is cozy with the Bush crime family.

I remember a time when Democratics though he was Mr evil.

[Bayard]

108. Those of us who aren't lemmings still do

Same history for both, not elected---appointed in smokey back rooms.

[Miles Archer]

50. You can tell the end is near this morning by the ...

... number of sad anti-Sanders OPs that have popped up, too.

Its like some are finally completing their spring cleaning.

What's even more sad is the fact that you choose to classify any discussion that is not pro-Clinton as "sad."

[JoePhilly]

59. Where did I do that exactly?

Also ... notice that many of the anti-Clinton OPs this morning are old recycled outrages.

Meanwhile, the OPs putting Sanders in a negative light are about what he's doing right now.

It won't matter in a few days.

The endless Hillary bashing will end. And Bernie won't have any more primary contests to leverage.

The Dems are lining up with Hillary.

Whether Bernie leverages his primary success, or squanders it and makes himself irrelevant, is totally up to him.

[Octafish]

32. Wars without end? Banksters never go to jail? Welfare for the Wealthy?

Seems so! Thanks for mentioning it.

[JoePhilly]

34. Whatever keeps your outrage meter pegged to 11.

[Octafish]

38. Those things outrage me because I believe in Democracy.

Killing people for oil is evil and undemocratic.
Letting banksters who looted trillions walk free is evil and undemocratic.
Gaming the economy to favor the rich coupon clippers at the expense of the many is evil and undemocratic.

That should bother you, too.

[think]

82. Lying America into a major war,condoning torture, cutting taxes for the very wealthy

Throwing America into deep into debt, cutting finding for veterans, and fighting against everything Democrats stand for.

And you aren't outraged by Hillary praising this man to win votes? Wow....

[swhisper1]

106. war profiteering, yes, and fracking

[Octafish]

24. Two Danziger cartoons explain the historic problem.

[Blue_Adept]

28. And the cause being a good one

"“I knew President George H.W. Bush, and he was always willing to talk about issues and ask what was on your mind,” she said. Of his son, she offered more specific praise, saying he was “absolutely committed” after 9/11 to his promise to get New York City the billions of dollars it needed to rebuild. “He never wavered and I’ll never forget that,” she said of Bush, as a few supporters clapped tepidly. (At Nancy Reagan’s funeral in March, a CNN journalist posted a photo of the two hugging.)"

[panader0]

109. Quite a few people believe that Bush was in on 9/11.

[Octafish]

31. Uncanny Resemblance

[betsuni]

42. OMG THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!!1111!!!!!

[Buddyblazon]

45. Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

She's got democrats on DU praising W. This is so sad it's hilarious.

Ya know folks...just because you stick a feather up your butt...it doesn't make you a chicken. Lol

[chwaliszewski]

58. I can't wait to see the picture of her getting an endorsement from Dick Chaney and...

people on DU justifying that.

[Buddyblazon]

63. It's like the whole of DU...

has had their brains removed and replaced with pudding. W....W?....mother fricking W.

Wtf has happened to DU?

[Kentonio]

75. It genuinely does defy belief..

[John Poet]

49. I HATE the fucking Bushes, this makes me

want to puke.

I forgot that a vote for Hillary is also a vote to have these traitorous bastards as presidential influences again...

[chwaliszewski]

55. I know what you mean.

[RufusTFirefly]

51. I like Dubya. He seems like the kind of guy you could have a beer with

Not.

Isn't it ironic how Sanders supporters are routinely accused of being closet Rethugs, while Clinton not only receives the support of some pretty notorious Republicans, she actually goes out of her way to speak glowingly of THEM!

[appalachiablue]

56. +1

[stevenleser]

67. I would like to think no DUer would need this explained to them. However, just in case...

... if it wasn't obvious, the guy who is the presumptive nominee on the other side is in the middle of a complete meltdown where it doesn't seem he can pull his party together to support him. Many prominent Republicans have said his racism and ridiculous foreign policy pronouncements are so awful they will either not vote, or reluctantly vote for or support Hillary.

I support Hillary doing everything she can to rub that wound raw, including encouraging support from any Republicans wanting to flee the Trump catastrophe.

This is a historic opportunity where we can not only beat the Republican nominee, but encourage a split in that party as wide as the grand canyon, one that might produce a flip in the Senate and come close to flipping the House, even though I dont believe that is possible right now.

[Octafish]

71. So to beat Trump, ally with the Bush Crime Family.

Roger Ailes salutes you.

[RufusTFirefly]

74. Well, consider the source, Octafish

Some people have no problems abandoning their principles for personal gain.

[think]

86. Didn't the Bush administration condone torture and lie us into a major war?

Why would anyone think praising Bush is good for the Democratic party and it's platform? Hillary is basically saying Bush was a great leader.

It's not getting Republican voters to support Democratic ideals. It's Hillary taking on republican values to suck up to them while turning her back on progressives that fought the Bush insanity...

[-none]

53. And we are supposed to vote for Hillary because SCOTUS?

Why am I not seeing why her choices for SCOTUS being any kind of progressive?
The Goldwater Girl is coming our already.

[NorthCarolina]

65. She has neither desire, or political fortitude to court Bernie supporters, so she will

instead court her GOP counterparts who match her fiscal conservative agenda.

[-none]

66. You are correct.

The truth is getting hard to come by here lately. Too bad so many can't or won't see it.
She is going back to the roots.

[apcalc]

54. If it helps beat whoeverthe R's offer up

( still assuming Trump) , good.

Politics makes strange bedfellows.

[appalachiablue]

60. Wow, better and easier to openly praise Bushes and conservatives

than to attract progressive Democrats and Independents by adopting forward policies for a better America. That's astounding and a clear choice that explicitly shows the real values and what's at stake.

[libdem4life]

62. She's courting his donors. Just a part of the cost. The two royal families

are linked tight. They laugh at the bickering and drama behind the Peasants. We have a Ruling Class and a Peasant Class now. Parties are the way they keep the people divided so they can annoint whomever they choose.

It's like a cow...one party at the mouth feeding it, the other at the back removing it, and the candidate (some use attorney, too) is sitting on the stool milking the cow.

But Bernie tried to throw some light on it...too late. We are Slouching Toward Oligarchy...and getting very close.

[Doctor_J]

64. she's a member of the bush family evil empire. anyone who believes she will fight the republicans

in congress needs to be deprogrammed. I am really sick of reading at du that she's a liberal. the brainwashing is astounding.

[chwaliszewski]

68. The thing that chafes my cakes is...

any criticism of Hillary is just because we're disgruntled or what not. No. She is not a good candidate. If no Hillary means no Bernie but instead O'Malley, I'm fine with that. Not her. She is not who her supporters think she is.

[felix_numinous]

69. Coming full circle

from whence we started here in 2001, against that same Bush.

[chwaliszewski]

70. I can't believe there are some people here who are okay with her behavior...

This site was started because of W and now she's mingling with the enemy and you're okay with that? Shame on you.

[leftofcool]

84. Mingling?

[jillan]

72. Bush and Kissinger. "You can judge a person by the company they keep".

"nuff said.

[chwaliszewski]

73. Oh, yeah?

Well, you're just an angry Bernie supporter which means you're a Hillary hater which means you only like losers!

Or, something to that effect.

[Vinca]

76. That pretty much makes me want to puke.

[Jester Messiah]

78. All hail the Uniparty.

What does it take for Democrats to wake up and realize we've been infiltrated?

[That Guy 888]

80. They do have one thing wrong, no liberal would cheer a bush, especially that one.

Clinton supporters on the other hand do seem to like a lot of neo-con ideas and politicians.

[Orsino]

87. And yet some imagine a plan to silence Sanders in Philly.

The Clintons do big-tent.

[peacebird]

89. With silencer pointed out so no one can hear what they say

Of course their big tent is only open to big donors! There will be a big fence built around the convention (literally) to keep the lowly peasants out

[peacebird]

88. The Clintons & The Bush family are friends. The leaked DNC docs say RICE is one they want

As advisor on foreign affairs.

[chwaliszewski]

90. Condi Rice?

[peacebird]

91. Yes, Condi. Was in Guccifer doc dump from DNC. Along with names, phone numbers, emails, addies

From her donors. Interesting spreadsheet. Shows Hillary was accepting donations before she announced.

[riversedge]

107. Hacking is WRONG-not matter which political stripe does it. I hope this Guccifer sees the

full force of the law.
How would you like your personal information-names SS numbers, address etc posted??
SHAME of him!

[kgnu_fan]

94. Not "unlikely"... they are the same kind, share the same political value nt

[msanthrope]

95. Sloppy OP....What is the common cause they support? nt

[Octafish]

98. Enslaving Humanity.

Looting the Planet.

Living like Kings.

[msanthrope]

100. I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. nt

[Octafish]

102. They're not insects, they're Banksters.

One nation, under Mammon:

Milton Friedman and the Rise of Monetary Fascism

The Dark Age of Money

by JAMES C. KENNEDY
CounterPunch Oct. 24, 2012

EXCERPT...

Monetary Fascism was created and propagated through the Chicago School of Economics. Milton Friedman’s collective works constitute the foundation of Monetary Fascism. Knowing that the term ’Fascism’ was universally unpopular; Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics masquerade these works as ‘Capitalism’ and ’Free Market’ economics.

SNIP...

The fundamental difference between Adam Smith’s free market capitalism and Friedman’s ‘free market capitalism’ is that Friedman’s is a hyper extractive model, the kind that creates and maintains Third-World-Countries and Banana-Republics, without geo-political borders.

If you say that this is nothing new, you miss the point. Friedman does not differentiate between some third world country and his own. The ultimate difference is that Friedman has created a model that sanctions and promotes the exploitation of his own country, in fact every country, for the benefit of the investor, money the uber-wealthy. He dressed up this noxious ideology as ‘free market capitalism’ and then convinced most of the world to embrace it as their economic salvation.

SNIP...

[font color="green"]Monetary Fascism, as conceived by Friedman, uses the powers of the state to put the interest of money and the financial class above and beyond all other forms of industry (and other stake holders) and the state itself.[/font color]

SNIP...

Money has become the state and the traditional state is forced to serve money’s interests. Everywhere the Financial Class is openly lording over sovereign nations. Ireland, Greece and Spain are subject to ultimatums and remember Hank Paulson’s $700 billion extortion from the U.S. Congress. The $700 billion was just the wedge. Thanks to unlimited access to the Discount Window, Quantitative Easing and other taxpayer funded debt-swap bailouts the total transfers to the financial industry exceeded $16 trillion as of July 2010 according to a Federal Reserve Audit. All of this was dumped on the taxpayer and it is still growing.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/10/24/the-dark-age-of-money/

Doesn't sound so alien now.

[msanthrope]

103. Lighten up, Francis. nt

[Octafish]

105. Who Repealed the Glass-Steagall Act?

[msanthrope]

110. You must be so much fun at parties. nt

[lumberjack_jeff]

99. "unlikely"? nt

[CBGLuthier]

101. Thick as Thieves. That's just an expression of course.

[chwaliszewski]

111. Skinner, if you're out there, let's have your take on this!

Hillary & the Bushes. Seriously? To keep Trump out of the White House, it's really come to this?