If Sanders is staying in the race until the convention as a matter of principle

[onenote]

He will stay in through the roll call no matter what and suffer a humiliating defeat by well over a 1000 delegates.

If he's simply being an opportunist, he'll drop out just before the convention or during the roll call (my moving for Clinton's nomination by acclamation) after it's clear the indictment fairy isn't going show up.

And if he's really serious about defeating Trump, he'll concede before the convention, do some pre-convention campaigning for Clinton and give a rousing speech at the convention that isn't all about himself but about the importance of defeating Trump, electing Hillary, electing a Democratic platform and beginning the process of enacting legislation that will advance his vision for the country, even if it can't be achieved overnight.

[LWolf]

1. I disagree.

1. There's no "humiliation" in losing a roll call vote. That's projection, from those frustrated with his presence, who would LIKE him to be humiliated.

2. This really makes no sense. I see no benefit to staying in all the way, just to drop out right before. Not for opportunism or anything else.

3. You must really be worried about Clinton's weakness as a GE candidate if you want him to start campaigning for her before she's even nominated. You seem overly concerned that the convention might be more authentic than symbolic, and that actual democracy might be messier than you'd like. I'm sure whatever speech he gives will be rousing, because his speeches are, and I'm sure it won't be all about himself, because they never are. As he's pointed out time and time again, his campaign was not about him, but about us. The frustrated determination to make everything all about "her" is at times amusing, and always sad. That said, he's already working on the platform and the steps forward for his vision, and he's got millions behind him.