Anyone else notice the crazy conspiracy theorists which have been unleashed on the Democratic party?

[Cali_Democrat]

Poll trutherism was something that republicans specialized in 4 years ago. Remember Dean Chambers and his unskewed polling website?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/unskewed-polls-founder-i-was-only-wrong-because-i-didn-t-consider-voter-fraud

Now loads of Bernie supporters are claiming that Hillary won because of election fraud and hacked machines.

Bernie has really unleashed the crazy.

The sooner he's gone, the better.

[Squinch]

1. My favorite example of this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2201926

I lol'd.

[niyad]

3. thank you. that one cracked me up as well. well--that and the guccifer stuff.

[Number23]

29. And folks have linked to the Snopes piece on that ridiculous "study" that says it has not been in

any verified, peer reviewed or probably even looked at by anyone that's not deep in the Bernie or Bust cave and are STILL trying to pretend that foolishness has validity.

[Squinch]

33. THey're defending it to the death!

[niyad]

2. k and r. the poll truthers are quite sickening.

[SFnomad]

4. And that these conspiracy theories are being pushed by so-called Progressives ....

[Peacetrain]

5. The one that is cracking me up is the exit poll conspiracies

Did you ever exit poll a write in vote...

I just put an op up.. we have all kinds of right leaning indies come into caucus and change their party affiliation the night of caucus.. ( i live in a small enough community for the last 40 years to know many many people, and I know who is who) and in communities who have write in votes for primaries are the ones people are carping about.. and the Clinton campaign worked its backside off to gt their people to vote early in the write ins.. long before the Sanders campaign would even come into an area.. that is just reality

[nolabear]

6. It's a psychologist's dream. We get scared or upset and create justification.

Religion, conspiracy theories, cults of personality, we find some amazing ways to put a framework around our fears so we can explain them and believe we will be saved from them by larger-than-life heroes.

[BootinUp]

7. I have a brain, so... yeah I have noticed.

[NurseJackie]

8. Your last sentence sums it all up perfectly. (Thank you!)

[niyad]

9. the so-called "stanford study" from snopes:

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Claim: A 2016 Stanford study revealed widespread primary election fraud in multiple states favoring Hillary Clinton.
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WHAT'S TRUE: Two researchers (presumably graduate students) from Stanford University and Tilburg University co-authored a paper asserting they uncovered information suggesting widespread primary election fraud favoring Hillary Clinton had occurred across multiple states.

WHAT'S FALSE: The paper was not a "Stanford Study," and its authors acknowledged their claims and research methodology had not been subject to any form of peer review or academic scrutiny.

. . . .

http://www.snopes.com/stanford-study-proves-election-fraud-through-exit-poll-discrepancies/

[Cali_Democrat]

10. LOL

It's just sad at this point.

[MineralMan]

11. Confirmation bias gone wild.

Anything that supports your suppositions or hopes must be correct. Election results are how we do this primary stuff, and all other elections. Everything else is speculation.

I look at election results. So does the rest of the country. So do the conventions. That's how we choose nominees, not by guesswork and confirmation bias.

Official results are official.

Hillary 2016!

[TwilightZone]

12. And self-run exit polls done in 3 counties out of 58 in California are more valid than real results

for the entire state. I think that's my favorite.

[MineralMan]

13. Indeed. Exit polling is difficult, if it's going to be accurate.

I'm guessing that the amateur ones in CA fail any statistical test. Here's the scenario I imagine outside one polling place:

Weirdly-dressed young person with Bernie T-shirt and cat-ear hat asks voters: "So, did you vote for Bernie or not?" She tallies only the yes votes, then makes up the right number of no votes. Any voter who says, "Fuck off. Who are you anyhow. My vote is my business." gets logged as a Bernie vote, due to the irascible, grumpy nature of the answer. Then, she texts the results to someone, after mistakenly texting them to a previous Tinder date she walked out on, who has a similar cell number.

Well...something like that...

[MyNameGoesHere]

14. We've always had them

now they think they have a mandate.

[geek tragedy]

15. They've always been here.

The conspiracy loons were never going to line up behind the establishment candidate.

[bravenak]

16. Oh yeah. I noticed

[Octafish]

17. Guilt by association is propaganda.

Bernie Sanders has a 45 year record of integrity.

Hillary turned $1,000 into $100k, thanks to a friend. Now she gets that for half a speech.

That's no conspiracy. That's the facts.

[leeroysphitz]

18. So here's what we have...

The Sanders campaign is working with the Saucer People, under the direction of the Reverse Vampires.
We're through the looking glass here people...

[DLCWIdem]

19. Right after Maryland voted there were those election fraud posts

One of them was referencing that Baltimore Sun article that was talking about missing votes. The trouble was that the poster obviously didn't read the article or they would have found out that the article didn't mention Clinton/Sanders at all. It was about the mayoral race and 80 votes. Since she won by over 200,000 votes they were grasping at straws. They are just so desperate.

[Cha]

20. They'll be gone Monday... back to whereever they came from.

[Live and Learn]

21. As will half of the Hillary supporters. They certainly won't be hanging around after the election.

Maybe they will return for the next Democratic primary.

I predict the place will be pretty desolate.

[Hekate]

22. The oldtimers will lay low until after Hillary wins...

....and then, unless Skinner has really really changed how he's going to run the place, the toxicity will amp up again against a sitting Democratic POTUS. I'm not going to forget any time soon that I had to hang out in the BOG for 7 years.

OTOH, the incredibly obnoxious newbie trolls in all their legions will have to go. Tick tock.

[Cha]

24. Yes, I hope the new rules will change things around here from President Obama's

time in Office to when Hillary is our POTUS!

Mahlao, Hekate!

[CBHagman]

23. Well, the conspiracy theorists are out in force on DU and the TOS seem to have been suspended.

In fact, I thought this was general election season and we were going to put away childish things. Instead I'm seeing a proliferation of inanity and insanity.

[zappaman]

25. Well...

[demosincebirth]

26. I bet many BS supporters really believe the Clintons had Vince Foster

Killed.

[Trust Buster]

27. The farther away from the political center you go in either direction, the more radical the

personality. The more narcissism you see. The main lesson I take away from this cycle is that the far Left is every bit as emotionally unstable as the far Right. On another website that splits about 60% Republican - 40% Democrat, I've always defended the far Left. I will do so no more. I don't care for extremism where ever I see it.

[Number23]

28. Poll Truthers. What an exquisitely fabulous name for these people.

They can join the ranks of 911 Truthers, Birth Certificate Truthers and other assorted loons.

[ismnotwasm]

30. Yes--It's annoying.

Really annoying.

[NanceGreggs]

31. "Bernie has really unleashed the crazy."

Ain't that the truth? Sadly, it's been evident from the beginning - and has escalated into something bordering on madness.

When Bernie's camp was found to be accessing HRC's computer data, the response was that the BS staffer was a "plant" sent in to destroy Bernie's campaign. That CT quickly led to the accusations being a "cover up" for the fact that it was actually HRC's camp that was accessing BS's info.

Every state primary Bernie lost was due to vote fraud. People were "purged" from voting rolls because they were BS supporters - although no one has ever explained how BS and HRC supporters could be differentiated before a vote took place, thereby allowing anyone to "purge" ONLY the BSers from the rolls.

The media was part of some vast conspiracy whose aim was "ignoring Bernie" - even though he appeared on political shows and late-night talk shows to the point of "oh, no, not THIS guy again!". Debates were scheduled to attract as few viewers as possible - and when they did occur, HRC got the softball questions while Bernie was "raked over the coals" by being asked questions he had no answers to, or knowledge of - like foreign policy. How fair was that?

All one has to do is look at the shit that was posted by BS supporters on the FB pages/websites of ANY well-known individual who endorsed HRC to see just how "crazy" the crazy was from the get-go.

I have only one friend in RL who is a true BernieBro type - and he's been a tinfoil hat wearer for most of the 35 years I've known him. He told his email friends a few months ago that he was sure his emails are being "monitored" because he's a BS supporter - which is especially far-fetched considering he's a Canadian and can't vote in US elections anyway.

Well, no matter. The BSers now have their own websites, where they will undoubtedly continue to conjure up CTs among themselves for months to come. It's hard work - but it beats actually being politically engaged, and frees one of any obligation to look at the facts as they are instead of making them up as they go along.

[beachbum bob]

32. what else can you expect from the walking dead generation...its all conspiracies..