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Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:12 PM

 

Vladimir Putin Has Everything He Needs to Blackmail Hillary Clinton

American intelligence officers are asking not 'if' but 'when' the Kremlin will dip into its arsenal of Clinton collateral

RUMINT (Rumor Intelligence) is rife with reports that Russian intelligence agencies are preparing to release emails “hacked” from Hillary Clinton’s rogue Internet email server.

Agreed, this sounds a bit like a blackmail plot in a 1940s radio detective thriller or a soap opera. Except it isn’t. We live in a world where blood gets spilled.

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Russian blackmail classifies as a potential threat, and another reason I believe a full and complete investigation of Hillary Clinton’s national security crime requires a special prosecutor. By the way, on June 14 U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan referred to the FBI investigation as a “criminal investigation,” confirming what White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said June 9. The executive and judicial branches are now in agreement.

So. Will Vlad blackmail Hillary? Or, “When Will Vlad blackmail Hillary?” Sure, it’s speculation. It’s a scenario. It’s like a radio-era detective serial.

Stay tuned for the next episode.

http://observer.com/2016/06/vladimir-putin-has-everything-he-needs-to-blackmail-hillary-clinton/


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Reply Vladimir Putin Has Everything He Needs to Blackmail Hillary Clinton (Original post)
vintx Jun 2016 OP
brooklynite Jun 2016 #1
vintx Jun 2016 #2
leftofcool Jun 2016 #6
vintx Jun 2016 #8
Jim Lane Jun 2016 #33
840high Jun 2016 #31
Lord Magus Jun 2016 #36
Kentonio Jun 2016 #40
Lord Magus Jun 2016 #42
randome Jun 2016 #3
LexVegas Jun 2016 #4
Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #5
Cayenne Jun 2016 #38
leftofcool Jun 2016 #7
Cayenne Jun 2016 #39
Post removed Jun 2016 #9
vintx Jun 2016 #10
wyldwolf Jun 2016 #12
CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #45
KingFlorez Jun 2016 #11
wyldwolf Jun 2016 #13
unblock Jun 2016 #14
840high Jun 2016 #32
GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #15
Sancho Jun 2016 #16
Trust Buster Jun 2016 #17
Lord Magus Jun 2016 #37
politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #18
WhiteTara Jun 2016 #25
SidDithers Jun 2016 #19
DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #20
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #23
NCTraveler Jun 2016 #21
DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #22
zappaman Jun 2016 #24
radical noodle Jun 2016 #26
trumad Jun 2016 #27
peace13 Jun 2016 #28
RandySF Jun 2016 #29
JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #30
riversedge Jun 2016 #34
Lord Magus Jun 2016 #35
Her Sister Jun 2016 #41
JoePhilly Jun 2016 #43
Octafish Jun 2016 #44

Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:13 PM

1. Two days...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:14 PM

2. Oh, I doubt the *criminal investigation* will be over by then.

 

But feel free to keep on wishing.

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Response to vintx (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:25 PM

6. There is no criminal investigation but feel free to keep wishing for one.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:29 PM

8. Really?

 

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"The privacy interests at stake are high because the government's criminal investigation through which Mr. Pagliano received limited immunity is ongoing and confidential," U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan wrote in an order issued Tuesday.

In the order, Sullivan declined to make Pagliano's immunity agreement public. The judge ordered the deal be submitted to the court so he could assess Pagliano's plan to assert his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination during a planned deposition of Pagliano in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit related to Clinton's emails.

"In the Court's opinion, the need for public access to Mr. Pagliano's agreement with the government is minimal. Mr. Pagliano's immunity agreement has not previously been disclosed. Mr. Pagliano and the government object to disclosure of the immunity agreement" Sullivan wrote. "Mr. Pagliano's immunity agreement with the government was filed with the Court by Mr. Pagliano solely to enable the Court to assess the legitimacy of his intent to assert his Fifth Amendment rights in this civil proceeding."

Clinton's presidential campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the development.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-judge-investigation-224314#ixzz4ByrRvim5

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Response to vintx (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:54 PM

33. Judge Sullivan better not say that here or his post will be hidden and he'll be PPR'd.

 

At least, that's what some of the most extreme of the Clinton zealots seem to anticipate, beginning next week.

My personal guess is that some of these Tick Tockers will be dismayed to see how much reality the admins allow to leak into the bubble.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:57 PM

31. Tell the FBI.

 

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Response to vintx (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:04 AM

36. In 1 day now, DU will go back to having rules.

And spamming articles from right-wing outlets like this one to smear Hillary will be against those rules. As will, I believe, falsely claiming that she's under criminal investigation.

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Response to Lord Magus (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 05:31 AM

40. According to both the FBI and a federal judge it's a criminal investigation.

 

You don't get to decide your own facts, that's not how this works.

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Response to Kentonio (Reply #40)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 03:59 PM

42. Nor do you.

The FBI has never said anything of the sort.

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:17 PM

3. Real life is not like a made-for-TV spy movie.

 

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:18 PM

4. ...

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:19 PM

5. Hum, must mean Putin is afraidof Hillary.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:54 AM

38. That's a good thing?

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:25 PM

7. The clock is running!

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:56 AM

39. Aug 1 ultimatum

but it seems things will devolve before even then.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:42 PM

10. Do you have a bunch of image links saved or did you search those just for me?

 



Meanwhile, her being indicted or not is nothing to me. It's the effect it would have on this party/the upcoming election that matters. And the possibility that Russia could be able to use shit they found to try to influence anything isn't particularly heartwarming.

My greatest disappointment, as far as this primary goes, is seeing so many dems - on this site in particular - so eagerly embracing the same triangulating bullshit that nearly all of us derided for years.

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Response to vintx (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:49 PM

12. I searched for them just for you - 'cause your special

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 06:56 PM

45. What a weak hide. Sanders folks are really sensitive lately.

 

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:46 PM

11. Perhaps he can give Bernie a job!

Afterall, he did honeymoon there years ago. Sounds like a plan.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:49 PM

13. Bernie and Donald are both special to him

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:51 PM

14. the clintons have so much experience managing scandals that they just laugh at them by now.

it no longer even matters if any of them are partially or even 100% true.

their enemies have thrown so much clearly false crap their way over the last quarter century that any scandal now reeks of yet more manufactured political tripe.

moreover, every president surely gets blackmailed and/or extorted, especially now that photoshop exists.

clinton is in a better position than most to say "screw you, i know how to handle a scandal, i'll take my chances".



now just imagine how trump would react to a blackmail threat, lol! mr. brand management thin skin would do anything to stop bad press! he's already settled many lawsuits to keep people quiet!

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Response to unblock (Reply #14)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:59 PM

32. Too bad the Clintons don't learn.

 

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:53 PM

15. Ivanka says thanks.

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:54 PM

16. What about the hotel room tapes of Bernie and Jane on their honeymoon in Russia?

And what about Trumps wife who is a Russian spy?

Looks like the US Government is doomed!!

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:56 PM

17. What a waste of bandwidth. This should be locked.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:06 AM

37. Sadly it won't be.

And seemingly a lot of people who qualify for jury service have decided that until the 20th they'll just vote to leave everything alone.

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:06 PM

18. What's left to be said about the Clintons, that either Ken Starr published in a book or the GOP

has made up. We know that Hillary used a server without permission. What's left? At this point, the Clintons are basically blackmail proof. After everyone has read about your husband's blowjob in the breakroom off the Oval office, accused of rape, accused of murder, there's nothing Putin can say to top that. What's he going to say? You sent a classified email to your assistant. Did too. Did too.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #18)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:26 PM

25. My thought. Rave On.

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:12 PM

19. The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary...

but they both love The Observer, owned by Donald Trump's son-in-law.

Sid

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #20)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:56 PM

23. Yeah, that explains a lot.

I keep forgetting the link with Kushner. Probably because I just try to ignore stuff like this (with varying levels of success).

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:44 PM

21. I'm guessing you wouldn't link to the BNR without comment. Nt

 

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 08:54 PM

22. ...

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:01 PM

24. Lol!

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:28 PM

26. Oh great...

The Observer again.

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:29 PM

27. Tick tick here comes the 20th

 

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:41 PM

28. As Bill would say...she's toast.

 

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:41 PM

29. Two more days

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:53 PM

30. What would Hillary have to give Putin for his silence?

Money? Would she have to put a red star on our flag? Blackmail means he's seeking profit to keep quiet.

Maybe some think we'll all be speaking Russian by next year if Clinton is elected. That's a new campaign tactic, isn't it?

If Putin wants Trump in the White House I'd talk it up.

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:58 PM

34. More crap from the Observer!

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 02:02 AM

35. "Rumor Intelligence"? Is this supposed to be satire?

Oh, it's from the outlet owned by Trump's son-in-law. So unintentional satire.

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 06:08 AM

41. Ooooh oooh Trump's Bestie! ~Trying to help Trump! Puhleeze!

 


Trump is a Putin apologist. Putin makes Trump Hard!!! hard!
Funny about Trump's apologists! They love them racists!

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 04:10 PM

43. But what do Ancient Alien Theorists think????

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 06:45 PM

44. If he's got it, you know NSA's got it.

They've been at it since J Edgar Hoover discovered tape recording. Ask Frank Chuch.

Frank Church was a patriot, a hero and a statesman, truly a great American.

The guy also led the last real investigation of CIA, NSA and FBI. When it came to NSA Tech circa 1975, he definitely knew what he was talking about:

“That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.

I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capability that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.”

-- Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho) FDR New Deal, Liberal, Progressive, World War II combat veteran. A brave man, the NSA was turned on him. Coincidentally, of course, he narrowly lost re-election a few years later.



And what happened to Church, for his trouble to preserve Democracy:

In 1980, Church will lose re-election to the Senate in part because of accusations of his committee’s responsibility for Welch’s death by his Republican opponent, Jim McClure.

SOURCE: http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=frank_church_1


From GWU's National Security Archives:



"Disreputable if Not Outright Illegal": The National Security Agency versus Martin Luther King, Muhammad Ali, Art Buchwald, Frank Church, et al.

Newly Declassified History Divulges Names of Prominent Americans Targeted by NSA during Vietnam Era

Declassification Decision by Interagency Panel Releases New Information on the Berlin Crisis, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the Panama Canal Negotiations


National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 441
Posted – September 25, 2013
Originally Posted - November 14, 2008
Edited by Matthew M. Aid and William Burr

Washington, D.C., September 25, 2013 – During the height of the Vietnam War protest movements in the late 1960s and early 1970s, the National Security Agency tapped the overseas communications of selected prominent Americans, most of whom were critics of the war, according to a recently declassified NSA history. For years those names on the NSA's watch list were secret, but thanks to the decision of an interagency panel, in response to an appeal by the National Security Archive, the NSA has released them for the first time. The names of the NSA's targets are eye-popping. Civil rights leaders Dr. Martin Luther King and Whitney Young were on the watch list, as were the boxer Muhammad Ali, New York Times journalist Tom Wicker, and veteran Washington Post humor columnist Art Buchwald. Also startling is that the NSA was tasked with monitoring the overseas telephone calls and cable traffic of two prominent members of Congress, Senators Frank Church (D-Idaho) and Howard Baker (R-Tennessee).

SNIP...

Another NSA target was Senator Frank Church, who started out as a moderate Vietnam War critic. A member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee even before the Tonkin Gulf incident, Church worried about U.S. intervention in a "political war" that was militarily unwinnable. While Church voted for the Tonkin Gulf resolution, he later saw his vote as a grave error. In 1965, as Lyndon Johnson made decisions to escalate the war, Church argued that the United States was doing "too much," criticisms that one White House official said were "irresponsible." Church had been one of Johnson's Senate allies but the President was angry with Church and other Senate critics and later suggested that they were under Moscow's influence because of their meetings with Soviet diplomats. In the fall of 1967, Johnson declared that "the major threat we have is from the doves" and ordered FBI security checks on "individuals who wrote letters and telegrams critical of a speech he had recently delivered." In that political climate, it is not surprising that some government officials eventually nominated Church for the watch list.[10]

SOURCE: http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB441/



I wonder if Sen. Richard Schweiker (R-PA) also got the treatment from NSA?

“I think that the report, to those who have studied it closely, has collapsed like a house of cards, and I think the people who read it in the long run future will see that. I frankly believe that we have shown that the [investigation of the] John F. Kennedy assassination was snuffed out before it even began, and that the fatal mistake the Warren Commission made was not to use its own investigators, but instead to rely on the CIA and FBI personnel, which played directly into the hands of senior intelligence officials who directed the cover-up.” — Senator Richard Schweiker on “Face the Nation” in 1976.

Lost to History NOT

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