Clinton camp shrugs off Sanders: He's "an afterthought"

[bahrbearian]

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Clinton camp shrugs off Sanders: He's "an afterthought"




The Hill ?@thehill Jun 17

Clinton camp shrugs off Sanders: He's "an afterthought" http://hill.cm/wmWs4VM



Because

[La Lioness Priyanka]

1. Glad she is. Soon we will too on du.

[riversedge]

21. Yes, she has bigger fish to fry!

[scscholar]

35. This!

tRump is a much bigger problem than the small fry Sanders.

[riversedge]

41. So many have not yet awoken to that fact.

[Hortensis]

97. Those who thrilled to Sanders' message matter.

I'm in the Clinton camp, have been ever since I decided he wasn't the right stuff, but like millions of others I don't "shrug" him or them off.

But for his small faction that itself thrills to feeling victimized, I say go ahead. Mine the web for satisfaction, thrill to fantasies of being abused and discarded, take bitter pride in the thought being ignored--if that's what floats your boat.

I personally don't get it, but hey. Far from me to deny others their pleasures.

[mercuryblues]

102. neither did Clinton

The quote comes from an EX staffer, speculating about the campaign.

[roguevalley]

60. the one who laughs last laughs best. Given the number of problems bubbling up,

I wouldn't get too cocky.

[Lord Magus]

61. Which imaginary problems would that be this time? -nt-

[KPN]

68. Yeah, the American middle class. Oh, and ...

gotta get WWIII started. That's a biggie too.

[RobertEarl]

55. So, a big middle finger to 12 million Dem voters?

And another one for 80% of DUers?

You just showed your idea of party unity. Thanks. It's nice to know who our friends are and who are enemies.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

57. Lol. Such high drama.

[RobertEarl]

58. Not high drama

Just nice to know who is for unity. We are just an afterthought. Not to be considered. Not regarded. Of no consequence. Not needed. Not wanted. A mistake.

Just 12 million active Democratic voters have now become a mere after thought to the high and mighty,

Well, it won't be our fault if Hillary loses. Since the campaign, and you, don't care for us 12 million active Democrats, how do you think the majority mass of independents will be made to feel?

[CountAllVotes]

81. +1,000 !!

Won't dare post anything more BUT I AGREE WITH YOU 100%!

[840high]

90. m2

[bvf]

94. +2000. n/t

[mercuryblues]

100. if you had bothered to read the article

you would have found out that

Clinton did not say that

Her campaign never said that

I was actually an EX staffer taking a guess at to what her campaign is doing

[RobertEarl]

59. Hillary Who? Progressive activists not ready for Clinton

Note to Jury: This is a verbatim copy of the title and an excerpt of a source we use all the time at DU. This is not the opinion of the op.


Chicago (CNN) — Hillary Clinton may be the presumptive Democratic nominee, but the fight to unify the party and its traditional allies in the wake of an unexpectedly long and contentious primary is poised to go on much longer.

The more than 3,000 Bernie Sanders supporters and progressive activists gathered here at the "People's Summit" have engaged in little open talk about Clinton, preferring instead to plot a path forward in the wake of the Vermont senator's defeat -- and questioning the motivations of the Democratic Party and the legitimacy of its nominating contest.

"There is massive corruption in the machinery of the Democratic Party," said RoseAnn DeMoro, the executive director of National Nurses United, the powwow's principal organizer, who had endorsed Sanders. "The only way that we can overcome that corruption and manipulation is for all of us not to work in isolation."

DeMoro lamented the party's push to gather endorsements and support from Sanders' backers, calling it "a very negative dialogue."

Its message, she said, is that "if you're not with Clinton, then you're pro-Trump."

More http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/18/politics/peoples-summit-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-unity/index.html

[KPN]

69. Thanks for this.

[Thinkingabout]

2. Because Hillary has a GE to win.

[cloudythescribbler]

78. a key element of winning a competitive GE is NOT ALIENATING Bernie's voters

Why these continued attacks on Bernie & his base? It's almost as if there was a preparation, in case HRC loses, to put as much blame as possible on progressives (as usual)

[Thinkingabout]

79. I did not attack anyone in my post, it is true Hillary has a GE to win.

[mercuryblues]

101. The clinton campaign

said no such thing. It was an EX-staffer speculating.

I suspect that is the point of the OP. How many people actually read the article before posting knee-jerk reactions?

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. Good luck, Hill.

Great campaign poster there.

[Trust Buster]

4. They just love to post Bush hugging Hillary at the funeral of a former First Lady.

These types of people are extremists that wish to tear this country apart. Not an ounce of class. I do not wish to be associated with this brutal and hate filled mindset.

[bahrbearian]

6. Treating a Funeral like a College Reunion. Not an ounce of class

Not an ounce of class . Did Bush Do a Keg Stand?

[Trust Buster]

9. Sickening. It was an after-funeral lunch. Look up the word "class".

[Rosa Luxemburg]

84. They look awfully happy for funeral

[Trust Buster]

89. They were celebrating a life and not a death. I don't know what funerals you attend.

[politicaljunkie41910]

17. Who put you in charge of what was classy and what isn't?

As much as you might not like it, Public Officials must interact with many people. What does being an a$$hole accomplish. We all know that the Clinton's have a friendship with the Bush family. Former presidents have always been part of a small clique. The fact that they can be cordial to one another speaks well of our sense of governance. I guess we could be like some of these third world nations who execute their predecessors. I'm sure that would make for a collegiate transition of power.

[pangaia]

27. They sure are members of a small clique, with one glaring exception.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. Agreed

[840high]

47. She just loves hugging Bush. Family.

[fun n serious]

92. Bernie embraced John MCcain when he returned to the senate

No big deal

[KPN]

70. Extremists? Brutal and hate-filled mindset? Rather hyperbolic Buster.

Why do you engage if you don't want to be associated with "they" and "these types of people"? That's your choice, no?

[Squinch]

85. You must really despise Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

She and Scalia were extremely close friends, so surely she fails your purity test.

And I feel certain you snub all Republicans at your job or those who you meet at social events. Because that's a really productive thing to do.

[bahrbearian]

8. Pandering to Republicans is the New thing , its OK, because Hillary is doing it.

[bahrbearian]

15. So you would nuzzle up to Chimpy? Maybe give him a kiss,

laugh about all the Business opportunities they created "Good Times"

[bahrbearian]

26. I don't try to cop a feel from them.

[msanthrope]

64. Nice sexism. NT

[MFM008]

10. what do you want her to say?

[bahrbearian]

12. She could use the Old Stand by, "I made a mistake"

[Lord Magus]

62. Regarding what exactly? -nt-

[bettyellen]

73. And as bizarre as it sounds.... That is exactly what many think should happen, LOL.

[CherokeeDem]

13. I don't like W....

not one little bit, but this is a harmless photo. Who knows, she might have been thinking what a dork he is but too polite to show it. The continued use of photos of the Clintons with the Bushes, or the Trumps, or with anyone they believe they can use against them is comical. I have a picture of me with Hillary Clinton from when she was first lady, does that make me suspect? OMG... Hillary was smiling when she had her picture made with a Southern white woman who must be Republican because no Southern White woman is a Democrat. This one is.

I realize it's not as silly as that but enough. if you have a legitimate argument about Hillary Clinton, not innuendo obtained from right-wing publications, post it, discuss it but stop trying to turn every moment of her life into some sort of scandal. That's apparently the Republicans job... don't do it for them.

[bahrbearian]

16. Shows More Bad Judgement

[CherokeeDem]

20. I swear...

if this election weren't so serious, I'd nominate the Bernie folks for comedy writers of the year.

Bad judgment for a former first lady to share a moment with a former president? Are you serious?

I am beginning to believe Bernie has attracted the folks who don't get out and mingle much. Social graces seem to be lost on them.

[Ned_Devine]

29. The timing of the picture is a little off

Reagan's daughter in tears in the background while these two are laughing. It's like they're oblivious as to where they are

[CherokeeDem]

43. Have you been to the family home after a funeral?

These gatherings are a mixture of tears and laughter.

Another swing and miss in the attempt to smear Hillary Clinton at all costs.

The Bernie ones are getting desperate. He lost.

[Ned_Devine]

46. Yeah, that's what it is

Hang on to that

[CherokeeDem]

49. Gotta laugh....

This Bernie nonsense is getting funnier every day.

[Trajan]

30. I have a picture of me with Hillary Clinton from when she was first lady, does that make me suspect

Actually ... Yeah ... Suspected of supporting a conservative who doesn't respect regular working families, like those who support the New Deal principles which have helped the middle class grow into a potent force ...

And, therefore, ....

[DemonGoddess]

98. +1000!

Thank you!!!

[oasis]

19. The "revolution" is in the rear view mirror. Time marches on.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

83. The revolution is chasing them

there is no escape

[KingFlorez]

22. Bernie Sanders is a non-factor right now

The primaries are over and there really is no reason for the Clinton campaign to concern themselves with anything related to him.

[TheCowsCameHome]

23. ...or his supporters, either. Who needs them?

Time to move forward, and pray that it's Trump on the other side.

[KingFlorez]

33. His supporters have moved on

Most of them will vote for Clinton, because that is how these things work. The median voter is a lot different than posters on DU.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. However, she'll be glad to resurrect him to blame if she loses the GE.

As will most of her acolytes here.

[bahrbearian]

28. No , They will blame Bernie and Nader

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

34. The names change but the scapegoat remains the same.

The evil Left. Eeeek!!

[HooptieWagon]

31. Pride goeth before a fall.

[bahrbearian]

32. If you have No Shame, do you really need Pride?

[seabeckind]

37. Flashback:

Bush On Bin Laden: ‘I Really Just Don’t Spend That Much Time On Him’

[bahrbearian]

39. Good Catch. They are in tune with each other.

[msanthrope]

65. Rewrite history much? HRC was for the compound attack. nt

[bahrbearian]

66. When is Hillary against any use of the military, Afghanistan,Iraq, Libya,Syria,Honduras, Yemen ..

with more to come.

[msanthrope]

67. Are you honestly suggesting that killing OBL was a bad thing? nt

[TheProgressive]

38. To 'shrug off' Sanders is to shrug off TR/FDR/JFK/LBJ and all real Democrats...

For me to support Clinton, I would have to become republican. And I will not and cannot do that.

Note this: when it is necessary for a candidate to steal an election, and that candidate does nothing to stop or even recognize the theft of a Democratic Election, then that candidate is not a Democrat or a patriotic American... rather that candidate is part of the oligarchy - a coup d'etat.

[okasha]

50. TR was a Republican.

Are you down with LBJ's Gulf of Tonkin Resolution?

[Lord Magus]

63. It'll be nice when tinfoil hat garbage about the primary being "stolen" is no longer welcome on DU.

It'll also be nice if people would stop falsely claiming that Bernie is the only liberal candidate and falsely conflating him with every progressive hero of the past.

[Triana]

40. That's what Hillary is to many Sanders supporters. An afterthought. n/t

[MrMickeysMom]

42. Why not? The MSM is dead above the shoulders and e-mails are "safe"...

No one will Eeeeevvverr know!


Wait... What's that around the corner?

[zappaman]

44. Ohmigod I've never seen that picture before!!!111

That's it!
You convinced me to vote Trump!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. ...

[Chan790]

52. What's amusing to me...

is how many of the Hillary supporters so terribly concerned about the date and time of the end of the primary season I just don't expect to make it to Tuesday because they can't stop themselves from being aggressively-vile and bellicose.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

54. I have been nothing but pacific

[Stofrk]

48. Clinton camp = One former Clinton aide

The Hill loves linkbait. That is, stuff that would make Bernie and Hillary supporters fight.
In fact, One person who is not even a current Clinton aide called Bernie Sanders an "afterthought."
In the headline, the linkbait-loving journalists turned this one guy or girl into the entire "Clinton camp".

And we started arguing because we swallowed the bait.
It's time to recognize The Hill as a linkbait-loving garbage site. This is the type of headline that generates visits, and retweets, and discussion board threads, etc.

In short, money.

[Chathamization]

56. Indeed. My guess is that the two have more or less mapped out a roadmap forward.

Neither of them are stupid people. Clinton knows that keeping the Sanders people inside the Democratic party is going to be good for them. Sanders knows that having a voice within the party is going to be important. Both of them seem to be pivoting to the general and beyond now. Both of them seem to see the use of e 50-state strategy in the long run.

It's possible that some petty personal vindictiveness is keep them at odds, but my best guess is that they've worked out a plan and are in the process of implementing it.

[djean111]

71. This -

Clinton knows that keeping the Sanders people inside the Democratic party is going to be good for them.

That would only be good for Hillary and the DNC. All the Sanders people are to Hillary and the DNC is votes and donations and grassroots to be used by Hillary. That's all.

[Chathamization]

74. Probably. But it doesn't mean that it's not beneficial to the Sanders camp as well.

More institutional support, a greater number of people to work with, a greater voice and presence within the party, etc.

[djean111]

75. Sorry. I am too old and too cynical to believe that for one second.

The Third Way has taken control of the Democratic Party, and Hillary sets that in stone.

For me, time to move on.

[Chathamization]

76. People were saying the same thing before Sanders ran - there's no hope of a progressive winning, we

have no choice, the party is out of our control, etc. If people had listened to them, Sanders would have never have gotten as far as he did.

[LonePirate]

51. He could have conceded like a decent politician but his arrogance has made him unlikeable.

I hope she prevents him from speaking at the convention given his uncivil and disrespectful behavior since Tuesday.

[peace13]

53. Just like the dander on her jacket...

....she will brush him to the curb. Who would have guessed it?

[Overseas]

72. Sorry to hear this. She should use the Bernie movement to get the change we need.

She could really help our country most by using his movement to justify the dramatic change our country needs by

-- banning fracking, which is dangerous to those who live near the wells and to the planet, since that gas needs to stay in the ground.

-- institute emergency greening of our infrastructure which will create jobs and reduce our CO2 emissions

-- cancel the TPP, which gives corporations far too much power when they already have too much

-- restore the Voting Rights Act to reduce and roll back the GOP voter suppression that has resulted from its repeal

-- bring in Medicare for All, more necessary than ever due to the current and impending public health crises resulting from climate and economic disruption.

She could do a lot more for her legacy by using the Bernie movement to back up the need to deprivatize government services and restore accountability and efficiency to them.

[Vinca]

77. I wish the Hillary supporters here would get that message.

You'd think Bernie was going to be on the general election ballot in November the way they're carrying on their campaign of hate.

[Surya Gayatri]

80. "...the refusal by Bernie Sanders to concede." You forgot that detail in your misleading headline.

Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign is shrugging off the refusal by Bernie Sanders to concede the Democratic primary.

Clinton aides and allies say they’ve moved on to focus solely on Donald Trump, the presumptive GOP nominee.

They expect Sanders will eventually offer an endorsement, and say they are content to give him the space he needs to get there.

But, of course, that didn't fit in your divisive tirade.

[Buzz cook]

87. When honesty doesn't work for the OP

He uses the other option.

I click on each and every link and for the most part I'm disappointed.

[MisterP]

82. "I don't need your votes to win and if I lose it's because I needed your votes and you didn't

give me them!"
goes well with her "I'm the candidate of peace and I'll conduct my wars of choice SMARTLY!"

[seabeyond]

91. Clinton has over 80% of Sanders votes.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

86. What "camp" is this? A couple of campaign workers?

[Adrahil]

88. Ex-aides now seem to represent the "Clinton Camp"

Though I do admit that he is losing any leverage he might have had.

[nolawarlock]

93. Odd.

I don't see this picture of Bush and Clinton in the original article so it begs the question, why are you still fighting the primary and trying to bring the candidate down? I'm amazed this post stills stands. Moreover, one thing I will never understand about some political keyboard warriors is their lack of understanding that, at the end of the day, we're all just people. Secretary Clinton and President Bush both lived in the White House and probably understand things about that experience few can. I detest Bush's politics as the day is long but wasn't this at a gathering after a funeral? Would you rather they duke it out for a few rounds in honor of the deceased?

[ashtonelijah]

95. Good. I'm tired of men who lose acting like special little snowflakes

who think they're entitled to a prolonged period of mourning, begging, and pleading. No. You lost. Im tired of women having to tiptoe around the delicate sensibilities of grown men who aren't used to losing. The winner doesn't owe you a thing. You owe your country, though.

[SidDithers]

96. Good. He is...nt

Sid

[earthshine]

103. Thanks for this. The more posts about Bernie, the better!

OPs like this show that Bernie's relevance is still quite high.