One more day! Ya better get it all in today because tomorrow--bye bye.

[trumad]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by BooScout (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

[Dustlawyer]

1. I am so happy for you!

You can alert on every perceived slight and ultimately have DU all to yourselves. Then you can only talk about perfect Hillary. The Hillary with no flaws, the Hillary of your dreams!

That will make for an awesome "political discussion" site! Enjoy your gloating!

[brush]

7. You can look at it that way, or you can look at it the way this site has always operated

It's to help Democratic Party candidates get elected.

If Sanders had won, we would be about helping him get elected.

FYI, when Hillary lost to Obama in 2008 it was by a razor thin margin (she actual had more votes, he more delegates), yet she conceded before the convention, campaigned for him pre-convention, and at the convention called for suspension of the first ballot and asked that Obama be declared the nominee by acclamation.

There was no holding out to the convention, she accepted her loss, a much, much closer loss than Sanders has suffered, graciously and moved forward to help the party defeat the repug opponent.

That's how it's done. Defeating Trump now is way more important than anything else at this point. It's not too late for Sanders to pitch in. It will be soon though. He risks permanently damaging his legacy.

[Duckhunter935]

47. So true

Pat each other on the back and Hillary lovefest. It will be one big boring Hillary group. I think I will take a vacation as they do not want any constructive criticism or discussion.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. I always loved your subtlety.

[chwaliszewski]

3. You can take your fingers out of your ears tomorrow!

One question: I can't speak badly about Hillary starting tomorrow but can I still speak out against the people she hangs out with, like the Bush family?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-invokes-unlikely-allies-000000292.html

[grossproffit]

4. Passive aggressive posts will be frowned upon.

[chwaliszewski]

10. Don't worry. I won't be posting anything after today.

The Hillary love fest will commence without any factual interruptions from me. I will say this: if she doesn't win the GE or does nothing to advance any progressive ideas, don't come crying to me. I personally feel like the Democratic party is being taken over by Wall St. but nobody seems to either notice or care.

[stonecutter357]

31. Welcome to DU!

[chwaliszewski]

12. Wow.

This party really is dying.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

49. Yes, really... just wow! They seriously think they can go it alone without Bernie supporters? Good luck with that!

[msanthrope]

54. We have gone it alone without the farthest Left. Most Bernie supporters are

throwing their support behind the nominee, showing up to volunteer and phonebank, etc.

The farthest left? The true BernItDowners? Eh.... not convinced we need them for much of anything.

[Kentonio]

13. You'd rather spend social time with a man who stole a national election and then started two wars

The death count of which is likely to be well over one million dead men, women and children, and tens of thousands of Americans. That's who you'd rather spent your time with than a couple of activists who said some things you didn't like?

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[chwaliszewski]

16. How revolting is that statement, Kentonio?

DU was started because of Bush. I can understand not liking Bernie but to say you'd rather have a beer with W? How absolutely repulsive. Shame on you RJ.

[Kentonio]

41. Pure and authentic?

Because I find it absolutely despicable that you'd even compare two progressive activists who use language you don't like to a man who stole the Presidency and then used it to kill over a million people? Ok then..

[NWCorona]

53. Lol

"I marched against those wars. And worked against that president's election.

But I find inane leftist fools as intolerable as venal right wingers"

You find "leftists fools" just as intolerable as right wing war criminals? That's some logic you have there.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. Yeah, I was a little surprised by that too.

[PaulaFarrell]

22. well, me too

but just so I could throw that beer in his face - after having spit into it several times

[NWCorona]

51. Huh?

"I'd frankly prefer to have a beer with George W. Bush than either of those two fools. "

You'd rather have a beer with a war criminal who's actions caused over a million deaths but they are the fools? OK have fun with that.

[leftofcool]

33. You can talk bad about Bush all you want to. Just leave Hillary's name out of it.

[chwaliszewski]

36. But I would be bad mouthing her friend.

[leftofcool]

44. Oh please!

A Senator who gets what she asks for after 9/11, praises the sitting President for giving it and he is automatically her "friend?" Like I said, just leave Hillary's name out of it or simply find another web site in which to bash our nominee. This is Democratic Underground, we support the Democratic nominee here and have done so since it's inception.

[NWCorona]

55. The connection is deeper than just friends. They are on record as saying that they are like family.

[coyote]

5. One thing is for sure,

Bernie has pulled back the veil of who the real progressives on this site are and who are not.

[coyote]

11. Who said I was trying to convince you?

Bernie just turned on the spotlight and showed the party it's true colors. For that, I am thankful.

[Red Mountain]

20. I don't think attacking Democrats is going to be allowed, period

So you might want to tone down the anti-Bernie vitriol as well.

The point is unity, not domination.

[insta8er]

45. You are so funny...lol

[livetohike]

25. Bernie won't be a Democrat after the convention. He will go back to what he

really is: Sen. Bernie Sanders (I). Fair game.

[NWCorona]

56. Yup. You'd rather sit down with a member of the Bush crime family.

[workinclasszero]

42. No doubt

The pretending to be a democrat game ended a long time ago.

Any actual democratic opponent of Hillary's would have quit or suspended their campaign after NY.

Here we are after DC and Sanders still refuses to give up and face reality.

The only beneficiary of that is Trump and his racist party.

[leftofcool]

37. Bernie is not a Democrat. He is an Independent and has stated as much.

[pinebox]

18. Uh huh sure you go with that

When it comes down to policy, Bernie IS a progressive. In fact, he's not only the head of the progressive caucus but he also has the most progressive record in the senate. Only in the mind of Hillarians is Bernie not what he is because they can't stand the fact that he exposed your candidate for what she really is; a wall street sell out.

[pinebox]

38. Try again

and get both wrecked and educated.

He did more than Hillary ever did.

Let's compare Bernie's and Hillary senate votes while they both served shall we? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/28/upshot/the-senate-votes-that-divided-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders.html?_r=1


He isn't called the amendment king for nothing http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/

Let's take a look at some of Bernie accomplishments http://www.occasionalplanet.org/2016/03/04/a-list-of-bernie-sanders-accomplishments/


While Bernie was fighting for civil rights, Hillary was busy slamming gays and calling people "Super Predators" http://samuel-warde.com/2015/07/12-examples-of-bernie-sanders-powerful-50-year-record-on-civil-rights-and-racial-justice/

Here's Hillary's track record from the senate which is abysmal http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/21/413141/-Hillary-Clinton-Empty-Pantsuit-Her-Track-Record-from-the-Senate

And look! Why is Hillary siding with Republicans so much while she was a senator? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/6/4/1390529/-Hillary-s-voting-record





So tell us, what did Hillary accomplish as SOS? Hmmm? What, taking dirty money for weapon deals from Saudi Arabia? Condoning our troops to go off in some far away land to kill other people kids? Sorry I'm not supporting that and millions won't. She will lose the GE because she is flawed and this is on her and only her.

[think]

26. 1 year & 2 months with 11 hides & still making rude and disgusting comments. How nice....

[think]

40. Sorry. You've been here 1 year 2 months have 11 hides and are still posting rude and vile comments.

Have a nice day...

[Rob H.]

39. I wonder what Skinner will do

with posters with double-digit hides. There's another with 17 in the last 90 days who's been gloating that after today they'll be forgiven--here's hoping Skinner doesn't just wipe the slate clean tomorrow and let obvious disruptors stay.

[leftofcool]

46. This is not "Progressive Underground."

This is Democratic Underground.

[Callmecrazy]

8. My guess is...

You'll be getting a pizza before the end of the week.

[betsuni]

17. I will be dancing. June is busting out all over!

[PaulaFarrell]

24. You off somewhere??

[Bluenorthwest]

27. Less talk of candidates means a laser focus on the bigotry and homophobia that fosters so much

violence in the world. It's time to really, really confront those who push that garbage because they will no longer be protected entities on DU.
Good luck trumad. You will be needing it.

[cali]

28. yawn. trumad, predictable? entirely. thoughtful? Lol.

[SidDithers]

30. It's been a frenzy of bashing and trashing...

Do they change their habits tomorrow? Or do they have the courage of their convictions to say what they still feel?

Posting privileges before principles?

Sid

[bigtree]

34. authoritarian

[stonecutter357]

35. Bye Bernie.

[cwydro]

43. I'm a Hillary supporter, but this kind of post is so unnecessary.

Skinner wants a more civil site. Does this help?

Of course it doesn't. But you know that.

Don't you?

[Buns_of_Fire]

48. Really? I hadn't noticed.

Well, unless you count the obligatory announcement by someone in every @#$%^&* thread, of course.