2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Who? Progressive activists not ready for Clinton
Chicago (CNN)Hillary Clinton may be the presumptive Democratic nominee, but the fight to unify the party and its traditional allies in the wake of an unexpectedly long and contentious primary is poised to go on much longer.
The more than 3,000 Bernie Sanders supporters and progressive activists gathered here at the "People's Summit" have engaged in little open talk about Clinton, preferring instead to plot a path forward in the wake of the Vermont senator's defeat -- and questioning the motivations of the Democratic Party and the legitimacy of its nominating contest.
"There is massive corruption in the machinery of the Democratic Party," said RoseAnn DeMoro, the executive director of National Nurses United, the powwow's principal organizer, who had endorsed Sanders. "The only way that we can overcome that corruption and manipulation is for all of us not to work in isolation."
DeMoro lamented the party's push to gather endorsements and support from Sanders' backers, calling it "a very negative dialogue."
Its message, she said, is that "if you're not with Clinton, then you're pro-Trump."
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/18/politics/peoples-summit-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-unity/
RandySF
(58,440 posts)You can even find someone who is voting for Ctulu.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)The closest the panelists came to an overt condemnation of Clinton, though, came in their discussion of "neo-liberalism," a less labor-friendly strain of the traditional ideology -- and one often seen to be embodied by the Clinton wing of the party.
It's a concern for some of us.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Her propensity to choose regime change and war over other avenues. Her strong advocacy for fracking and the extractive energy companies. Her push for more H1b visas and outsourcing.
That is part of why I do not support her, at the core tho is her continual lying. The inspector generals report proved she has lied nonstop about her email/server. She also lied continually saying she could not wait to talk to the FBI and clear this up, only to turn around and declare they had to get a subpeona when they asked her.
Honor, and integrity are two words you never hear in a description of Hillary.
Hondouras, Haiti, Iraq, Syria, Libya.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)Herman4747
(1,825 posts)That I have wondered about myself is "does my opposition to Hillary stem primarily from marked differences on policies or instead from her insincerity & dishonesty?" And I have concluded that for me, it's primarily the latter (to be sure, I still worry about her established belligerence).
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)the next President of the United States ... that's who.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)The Dem party has veered so far rightward as to become the moderate Republicans of the 70s. If I wanted to vote Republican, I would vote Republican.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)Beowulf
(761 posts)Really? That's the only word they could think of? That's offensive on so many levels. Wish I could say I'm surprised.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Beowulf
(761 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)She doesn't represent the broad left.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)movable feast, that crowd
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Dont't paint with too broad a brush. There are many longtime progressive Ds who support Sanders and agree with her.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MFM008
(19,803 posts)cant come soon enough.
I'm just sorry I live in Pacific Standard time.
If I lived in Australia tomorrow would be here already...
I wouldn't live in Botany Bay however....every animal there is designed to repel human presence.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)That her friend Donald will be as polite about her as Bernie has been? You are so anxious to shove aside lifelong Dems concerns about her. Yet you expect us to hold our noses and vote for her?
Amazing.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)She is not a conservative or a Republican no matter how loudly you insist she is.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)of die-hard "progressives" who refuse to vote and damage the chances for a Democrat because she's not "perfect."
They wonder why some Clinton supporters are saying not to bother with these sorts of people.
"President Trump brought to you by Bernie or Bust supporters." Congrats guys.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Thinking only that he could weaken the Republican field for Hillary.
Since he is their good friend, and their daughters are also close, then can't we assume he is really a good guy, and this buffoon stuff is just an act? Because if its not an act, why would Bill & Hillary have such a man as a friend?
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,315 posts)Clinton or Trump. Those are the choices. Anything else is pointless posturing now.