2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI wish Hillary would stop attacking trump!
Lets wait until their convention is over!
We want trump! If he keeps dropping we might not get him.
riversedge
(70,187 posts)mcar
(42,302 posts)And they are doing it brilliantly, IMO.
riversedge
(70,187 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Personally, I still think there is very little chance it will be anyone else.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)The Dnad's free ride of free edia coverage is over.
Ad the GOP ain't going to back him. He has $1 million and he's not going to fund his own camaign.
Romney's coming!
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)The problem is however, that no one has registered in the states (that we know of) for the general election. I wonder what the deadlines are. Of course, one of the primary losers could step up, but they did lose badly to him.
I also wonder what would happen to those supporters who overwhelmingly voted for him--are we in for a huge fight? No one at this time has stepped up. And it is getting really late in the game.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Back in February
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)They did the same about the Tea Party taking over. Lots of hands on hips and puffed-up cheeks, but when it came to push, they pulled instead.
"Well, I never! ...But maybe just this once..."
Sacking Trump would be the worst thing hte Republican party could do to itself. I mean it would be great for us, but remember one important thing...
Republicans are not nearly as stupid as we like to think they are. Oh, they're scientifically ignorant and socially backwards and tend to believe in fairy tales and sky demons that even the religious of the world abandoned back in the B.C.E. times. But htey're still plenty smart in their own way and they know damn well that to cut the feet out from under their own voters is nothing but doom. Not just for this election, but for the midterms, and the next presidential as well.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)T f2f ump is done!
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)spud_demon
(76 posts)n. Can you imagine what he'd say/do after that?
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)The man is extremely dangerous. We have to do whatever we can to keep him away from a place of power. Since the media won't call him out then we have to!
athena
(4,187 posts)I don't think it's a good idea to hope that the Republican nominee will be someone who would be a complete disaster if, by some sort of fluke, he actually got to be president. Just by being on the ballot, the Republican nominee will have a finite chance of being elected President.
Let's not be overconfident. You never know what might happen between now and November that might affect the outcome of the election. I'd much rather have a sane person as the Republican nominee than Trump. Hillary is a strong enough candidate that she should be easily able to beat anyone on the other side.
Logical
(22,457 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)They gave him an estimated $2 Billion in free press, because they made huge ROI in so doing
Now RNC isn't going to back him.
And he certainly isn't going to spend 2 or 3 hundred million if his own
And his trailer trash gang aren't going to give up their beer n bingo monies
TwilightZone
(25,464 posts)will only help us in November.
Guilt by association.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)HRC needs to establish the policies and issues that the DEM party will stand by and for...
too much time is being spent NOT doing that and it has the potential to backfire and cause her unfavorables to go up even more
be the better candidate and speak to the principles that are the DEM party platform
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)to also define YOURSELF and your own policies. Hillary will do BOTH.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)HRC has a 7 point 'lead' on Trump... on TRUMP... if HRC is unable to do better than a 7 point diff against Trump at this point when his optics are tanking... what happens if he corrects that?
HRC should've been pointing out the policy and issues gap and driving that home... over and over... the 'attack' angle is playing to Trumps 'strength', get off the playground and leave him there...
peace13
(11,076 posts)Discuss issues, that's fine but hurling insults for the sake of it is not sensible. We are better than that.
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)Don't stop slamming him, I want his numbers to be sub 40!
drray23
(7,627 posts)Its a good strategy for Hillary to point that out since it will allow our down ballot candidates to gain an edge and take back some senate and house seats.
Even if they were to switch to another candidate (which seems very unlikely in practice), they would still lose. The damage has been done to the gop. That candidate would not have time to put together a campaign, raise the money and get registered in all 50 states all the while trying to convince pissed off Trump supporter to vote for him/her.
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brer cat
(24,559 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)kicking his sorry ass, and if he quits move on to the next one.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)I think Trump is toxic to the Republican party and easy to beat in the GE.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I almost forgot
glennward
(989 posts)if elected. I want her to hit Trump only when he puts out a lie or some unsubstantiated attack. She should address these quickly and concisely and then pivot to her issues.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)but you must keep in mind, Trump says outrageous things daily, so it only seems as though Clinton is always attacking and not talking about her policies and issues. She talks about them at every appearance she makes, it's just that, maybe until recently, some folks weren't actually paying attention to what she's been doing.
She and her team are, thus far, running a damn fine campaign.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)problem is that the media might start showing him in a more positive light like they did with George W even though he was dumb dumb dumb. The media made him look what passes for "Presidential" for the GOP.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)REALLY light a fire under all their asses. Force a cleavage. Target the really influential and also the vulnerable ones up for re-election. Paint them all as enablers of brutal violent racism and xenophobia.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)I think if they usurp Trump and put Ryan, Romney or anyone else in his place, it would destroy the GOP and the far right will not vote for the replacement and the ones that do vote will probably vote for Johnson. It is thw far right/tea party fringe is the only thing keeping the GOP alive.
I think it would result in more votes for Hillary.
okasha
(11,573 posts)I think you're exactly right.
Anyone who replaced Trump would be volunteering for a suicide mission, and they all know it.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Trump is watching his poll numbers drop and the GOP may find a way to allow him to back out gracefully and replace him on the ticket with Cruz or someone else.
Several political analyst were talking of this very scenario on NPR the other day as a very real possibility.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Would they be able to be affective?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)to replace him. His voters would be seriously pissed off, and they would have every right to be. It would cause chaos.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)It seems to be working too. If she gave him a pass everyone would be saying she'll never beat him, he's so popular and telegenic, etc. Besides she's in her element and is probably itching to go after someone after a year of being congenial to her opponent.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)If he is the nominee, he's been defined, and historically, he's in a very bad spot.
If he ISN'T the nominee, the Trump-supporting neckbeards will lose their fucking shit and the the GOP has a civil war on its hands.
I won't say the election is in the bag, but it's hard to lose ground on this issue.
TheFarseer
(9,322 posts)The wack-a-doodles backing Trump will back away because Hillary said something bad about him. If anything, it will insure he's the nominee. Attacking him will of course help with the base and moderates we need to win, so keep it up!
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)...of sychophant down ticket enablers and supporters.
Hillary is as much about down ticket as the Presidency, that the more down ticket Republicans that have nurtured and supported Trump, the weaker they will be in their re-election bids. We've got to get many of those kochsuckers on the record so that we can use their own words against them when the opportune moment presents itself.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)It's important to define the opponent early.
But it's really great to have Trump as an opponent. I too worry about some more palatable GOP person getting nominated.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)Somewhere it was suggested that 10 super rich Republicans could offer Trump 150,000,000 to drop out. If, as has also been suggested, he's only a millionaire, albeit many millions, maybe he'd go for it.
Yes, I would worry more if someone other than Trump were the GOP nominee.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)To say nothing of the rioting by his cult that would ensue at the convention.