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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 02:55 PM Jun 2016

Trump panders to evangelical leaders by promising to force store clerks to say ‘Merry Christmas’

Donald Trump greeted religious right leaders by asking not what Christianity could do for them but boasting about what evangelical voters had done for him.

“Christianity, I owe so much to it in so many ways, through life, through having incredible children, through so many other things,” Trump said. “But I also owe it, frankly, from standing here because the evangelical vote was mostly gotten by me. If you remember, I went to South Carolina, and I was going to be beaten — very heavy evangelical state — and I was going to be beaten by (Sen. Ted) Cruz or somebody because he had very strong with the evangelicals (vote), and I ended up getting massive majorities on the evangelical vote. Everybody said, ‘What’s going on? How did Trump do that? And then I went elsewhere and, and I won the whole South and heavy evangelical and Christian vote, and frankly, a Jewish vote, right, where we had Jewish population.”

Trump launched a broadside in the so-called “war on Christmas” Tuesday afternoon at the event organized by the anti-LGBT groups Family Research Council, Vision America and AFA Action.

“I’m a tremendous believer, and we’re going to straighten it out,” Trump said. “You know, oftentimes at some of my rallies I’ll have 25,000 (or) 35,000 people more, and I say in a joking fashion — but boy, do I mean it, we’re going to be saying ‘Merry Christmas’ again.”

more + video:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/watch-trump-panders-to-evangelical-leaders-by-promising-to-force-store-clerks-to-say-merry-christmas/

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Trump panders to evangelical leaders by promising to force store clerks to say ‘Merry Christmas’ (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2016 OP
Freedom of religion and Free Speech JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #1
Well, I didn't watch the video . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jun 2016 #5
Just stating my opinion JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #7
It kind of astounds me how dumb people have to be to not realize how transparent this guy is. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #2
good grief.... chillfactor Jun 2016 #3
tRump is these Evangelicals idea of a person that most represents JaySus .No none takes them serious uponit7771 Jun 2016 #4
I'm a Christian and I say Happy Holidays. It's a catch all for Xmas, Hanukkah, New Years, Kwanzaa ++ grossproffit Jun 2016 #6
I wish them a happy librarylu Jun 2016 #12
I'm just friendly and tell them to have a good day...store clerks work hard during December! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #19
I was sort of lectured by a clerk librarylu Jun 2016 #23
Store Clerk's 1st Amendment rights being abridged. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #8
"Im a tremendous believer"???? Seriously? hamsterjill Jun 2016 #9
If you knew who was in the room . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jun 2016 #10
Two Corinthians walk into a bar.. Capt. Obvious Jun 2016 #11
Yeah, OK Donny sailfla Jun 2016 #14
Trump is a parody candidate. eom charlyvi Jun 2016 #13
Tinyhands believes in the Trinity: Me, Myself, and I. It's all about him. Hekate Jun 2016 #15
Trump's drivel resonates with LOTS of people. Ron Green Jun 2016 #16
We're not. eom MoonRiver Jun 2016 #18
He is taking every one of the GOP's idiotic "issues" BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #17
Palin-speak peggysue2 Jun 2016 #20
Freedom of speech? liberalnarb Jun 2016 #21
"I'm a tremendous believer . . . " What a total numbnuts. Vinca Jun 2016 #22
What if the store clerk is Jewish? athena Jun 2016 #24

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
1. Freedom of religion and Free Speech
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jun 2016

Full stop. Unless someone is holding a gun to my head . . . Is that his plan? Have his insane cult stand over store clerks and point a gun at them while they do their job?

He's a disgusting maggot.

5. Well, I didn't watch the video . . .
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jun 2016

. . . so maybe he "clarifies" it there, but I didn't see anything in the quoted passages where Trump actually does say that he will "force" store clerks to say "Merry Christmas." That appears to be something of an inference of the person characterizing Trump's remarks.

That said, that's really neither here nor there, as far as I am concerned. It's difficult to follow the man's babbling, quasi-incoherent way of speaking. About all one can extract from his remarks is that he is attempting to communicate some truly repugnant ideas.

As a believer myself, I find Trump repulsive . . . but not nearly so repulsive as those confessing Christians who purport to support him.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
7. Just stating my opinion
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:20 PM
Jun 2016

You would have to hold a gun to my head.

That's what Trump is. He loves violence and bullying. He's shown us time and again . ..

ETA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2210699

Religious Violence. These people are awful.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
2. It kind of astounds me how dumb people have to be to not realize how transparent this guy is.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jun 2016

The only person in this election cycle more fake than Donald Trump is Ted Cruz, and only by a hair.

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
3. good grief....
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jun 2016

and just how does trump intend to "force" clerks to do his bidding? He really is an asshat!

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
6. I'm a Christian and I say Happy Holidays. It's a catch all for Xmas, Hanukkah, New Years, Kwanzaa ++
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jun 2016

Now, if someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, I reciprocate by saying the same.

I actually had a lady yell "MERRY CHRISTMAS" to me after I said Happy Holidays. The holidays sure bring out the worst in some.

librarylu

(503 posts)
23. I was sort of lectured by a clerk
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jun 2016

once on the "true meaning" of Christmas so I briefly told him what it was.

When I was a clerk I just smiled sweetly when people insisted on wishing me a blessed day - or started ranting about something. Off the clock I'm more honest but not very argumentative.

Since the Winter Solstice started it all I think it should be honored.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
8. Store Clerk's 1st Amendment rights being abridged.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

Hindu, Zoroastrians, Moslems, Shinto even atheist being forced to cow tow to Government imposed Christian mantras.

Yup, forcing people to say stuff they don't want to say, is as bad as inhibiting free speech.

Trump's idea sounds good to me.

10. If you knew who was in the room . . .
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

. . . you wouldn't be surprised. His audience was, after all, the same hucksters who are able to keep a straight face while spewing their heretical nonsense from the pulpit in the course of shearing their gullible flock.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
16. Trump's drivel resonates with LOTS of people.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:19 PM
Jun 2016

Anti-intellectual, anti-P.C.; what's not to like?

I honestly don't know how Hillary supporters are going to mount a positive campaign against this guy.

BumRushDaShow

(128,978 posts)
17. He is taking every one of the GOP's idiotic "issues"
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jun 2016

and talking points, magnifies them in flamboyant fashion, and then goes on to try to "sell" them.

It's like he has a checklist -

1.) Ban abortion? check
2.) Build wall to "keep 'illegals' out"? check
3.) Ban Muslims? check
4.) Arm everyone? check
5.) War on Christmas? check
6.) Blame Obama for every terrorist attack? check
7.) War on Women? check
8.) Repeal the ACA? check

If he continues on, I expect we'll soon hear -

1.) "English only"
2.) (Christian) Prayer in schools

and on and on....

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
20. Palin-speak
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jun 2016

Where did this man learn English? We all laughed at Palin's word salads--so many words, so little meaning. He owes so much to Christianity and then brags about how many evangelical votes he hauled (more than Ted Cruz). Humility is not something The Donald understands.

Ugh!

athena

(4,187 posts)
24. What if the store clerk is Jewish?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jun 2016

Or Muslim? Or Hindu? Or Atheist?

How can anyone force anyone else to celebrate a religious holiday against their own beliefs? Does this not go against the very idea of the first amendment?

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