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(114,904 posts)
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:40 AM Jun 2016

I think Trump could turn me into "a broken glass voter" for HRC

And it's hardly a secret that I don't have either a high opinion of her or high expectations of a Clinton presidency.

But Trump?

He is unspeakable. Loathsome. Hitleresque in his appeal. The worst product of America imaginable.

It's true I think it's slightly more likely than not that he won't make it to November, but the republican party is directly responsible for him.

The worst part of his ghastly speech this morning- and it was all bad- was his unmitigated gall to reach out to the LGBT community.

This is the Evangelical Advisory Board he named yesterday after meeting with the most homophobic hateful people in this country:

Executive board members include:

•Michele Bachmann - Former Congresswoman
•A.R. Bernard - Senior Pastor and CEO, Christian Cultural Center
•Mark Burns - Pastor, Harvest Praise and Worship Center
•Tim Clinton - President, American Association of Christian Counselors
•Kenneth and Gloria Copeland - Founders, Kenneth Copeland Ministries
•James Dobson - Author, Psychologist and Host, My Family Talk
•Jerry Falwell, Jr. - President, Liberty University
•Ronnie Floyd - Senior Pastor, Cross Church
•Jentezen Franklin - Senior Pastor, Free Chapel
•Jack Graham - Senior Pastor, Prestonwood Baptist Church
•Harry Jackson - Senior Pastor, Hope Christian Church
•Robert Jeffress - Senior Pastor, First Baptist Church of Dallas
•David Jeremiah - Senior Pastor, Shadow Mountain Community Church
•Richard Land – President, Southern Evangelical Seminary
•James MacDonald – Founder and Senior Pastor, Harvest Bible Chapel
•Johnnie Moore - Author, President of The KAIROS Company
•Robert Morris - Senior Pastor, Gateway Church
•Tom Mullins – Senior Pastor, Christ Fellowship­
•Ralph Reed - Founder, Faith and Freedom Coalition
•James Robison - Founder, Life OUTREACH International
•Tony Suarez - Executive Vice President, National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference
•Jay Strack - President, Student Leadership University
•Paula White - Senior Pastor, New Destiny Christian Center
•Tom Winters - Attorney, Winters and King, Inc.
•Sealy Yates – Attorney, Yates and Yates

Trump is poison.

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(5,051 posts)
1. The way I see it
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jun 2016

The country and the progressive movement can survive a Clinton presidency. Neither would survive a Trump presidency.


(37,428 posts)
2. If Trump says he will be working with that advisory board, that means he won't be.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jun 2016

It's just a list of names that he or his handlers think will impress the rubes and/or calm big donors.

He's not a real candidate, and nothing he says is real.


(37,428 posts)
4. Anything other than Trump.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:51 PM
Jun 2016

But more seriously, his "candidacy" has consisted of nothing but press releases and personal appearances. Just a lot of empty promises meant to impress or intimidate. I see no point in trying to analyze a list of potential advisors' names, because I suspect it's just as fake as everything else the campaign emits.


(2,872 posts)
5. That's where I am right now, and god do I hate the prospect.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jun 2016

I did more research on Stein, and the Greens apparently espouse anti-vaxxer and homeopathic medicine views, and I can't get behind that. Right now, it's looking like either Clinton, or just tuning out of politics altogether.


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(53,866 posts)
6. this is exactly how i would have felt voting for Bernie.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jun 2016

this is more or less how we all feel when our primary fav loses. We see the opposition and make a more cognitive rather than affective decision.

edit: to clarify, i was responding to this sentence 'I think Trump could turn me into "a broken glass voter" for HRC'



(114,904 posts)
9. um, no. my opposition to hillary had zilch to do with Bernie
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jun 2016

I never expected anyone but her to be the nominee.

I don't think the way you do in terms of "favs" and personalities. I do issues. You think in other.... ways.

bye now.


(4,533 posts)
7. Take a good look at that list
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

then imagine that is his cabinet. This is what a Theocratic US would look like. I know there are some who still think Trump is a joke. He is a joke, but he is a dangerous joke. He's dangerous because he doesn't know WTF he is doing and can be led around by the nose by a group such as this. He wants the throne and he will sell his soul and our souls to the devil, to get what he wants. Win or loose the US has not seen the last of Trump, or his supporters.


(10,479 posts)
8. Ralph fucking Reed, original head of Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

There are some blasts from the past in that list, for sure.



(114,904 posts)
10. they aren't from the past, alas. They may not be in the headlines as much
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jun 2016

but many of those on that list have been quite successful in several areas- most notably limiting abortion.



(7,906 posts)
13. While I am very sad that it takes someone like Trump,
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jun 2016

to get you to tune into Hillary Clinton, I am happy to hear that you will at least consider it.

A Trump presidency would be disastrous for this country, and for all of us.



(114,904 posts)
14. I'm not tuned into her. I am voting against trump. period
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:17 AM
Jun 2016

My opinion of her has not changed. This isn't a game to me. My opinions are based on known facts.


(2,872 posts)
15. Oh, I'm still daggers out where Clinton's concerned.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:31 AM
Jun 2016

But trump is worse. All I know is I will be saying a hell of a lot of "I told you so" when we're fuck deep in another "conflict" and dealing with soldiers dying overseas for no good reason.

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