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Related: About this forumFACT-Check-Trump lied when in said Hillary accepted $58,000 in jewelry from Brunei
One of the many lied Trump told yesterday in his speech!
Jewels from Brunei
Trump: "Hillary Clinton accepted $58,000 in jewelry from the government of Brunei when she was secretary of State."
This is false. Clinton traveled to Brunei in September of 2012, and she did receive on behalf of the U.S. jewelry (Mouawad Larme DAmour 18k gold, sapphire, and diamond earrings, necklace, and bracelet) worth an estimated $58,000, according to the Department of States Office of the Chief of Protocol.
However, Clinton did not keep the jewelry. The gifts were transferred to the General Services Administration, the chief of protocol report said.
This is standard practice when federal employees receive gifts from foreign countries. The U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 9, clause 8) prohibits all federal officials from receiving any presents from foreign governments, kings, or princes, without the consent of the Congress, as explained in a 2012 Congressional Research Service report.
The Congress has consented generally, in the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act, to the acceptance of gifts of minimal value from foreign governments offered as souvenirs or marks of courtesy, and the acceptance of other gifts when a refusal of the gift may cause offense or embarrassment or otherwise harm the foreign relations of the United States, the CRS report says. A tangible gift of more than minimal value accepted for reasons of protocol or courtesy may not be kept as a personal gift, however, but is considered accepted on behalf of and property of the United States.
In Clintons case, the departments chief of protocol noted that the jewelry was accepted because [n]on-acceptance would cause embarrassment to donor and U.S. Government, and the gifts would be transferred to the GSA.................
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C_U_L8R
(44,997 posts)spotting Trump lies. It's fun too.
malaise
(268,887 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The Sultan is establishing the death penalty for LGBT as part of a new set of restrictions intended to 'protect the culture' from globalization even as the Sultan seeks the TPP to enrich himself.
So I am not at all thrilled that the US legitimizes Brunei even as they plan this pogrom.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)If the Trump quote is indeed verbatim and complete, he did not lie (on this rare occasion). Clinton did accept the gift. She did not however accept it personally and keep it, but accepted it on behalf of the nation, exactly as she should.
It's weasel words bto imply wrongdoing by loaded but technical accurate phrasing, but what else do you expect a weasel like Trump to use?
plcdude
(5,309 posts)that she accepted it on behalf of the United States. If it is not the whole truth then it not turthful.
Mass
(27,315 posts)Of course, what is surprising is that ANYBODY would take what Trump says at face value (reporters in particular, who accepts everything Trump says he has done or will do as truth, at least for a while).
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MissB
(15,805 posts)It's pretty interesting to see all the trinkets offered to the Clinton's during fmr President Clinton's years in office. Lots of beautiful gifts from various countries around the world. I'm sure each president/first spouse receive "gifts" that end up with the GSA.