2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders Says His Revolution Is 'Just Getting Started
Bernie Sanders told a roaring crowd of supporters Thursday that his campaign is "just getting started" fighting economic inequality, changing the Democratic Party and bolstering Democrats running for Congress.
Speaking to a packed hall in Manhattan, Sanders took something of a victory lap as he reviewed the states he won and the fact that many young people flocked to his campaign over presumptive Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's. He did not mention her name, let alone endorse her as leading Democrats have urged.
"Our goal from day one has been to transform this nation and that is the fight we are going to continue," Sanders, his voice hoarse, told supporters who packed a venue called The Town Hall near Times Square. "We have got to make sure that (Republican presidential candidate Donald) Trump is not president. But that is not good enough."
The independent senator got standing ovations as he reviewed his campaign positions, from free health care and college tuition to campaign finance reform. Sanders urged his supporters to keep fighting inequality and insisting on "forcing open the door" of the Democratic Party to allow working Americans, not political elites, to run it. That was a not-subtle swipe at a party he complained rigged the nominating system in Clinton's favor.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/sanders-revolution-started-40090780
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)just because his presidential campaign is over.
Bernie and the vast majority of his supporters will back HRC in the fall, but that doesn't require him to disband everyone who has backed him. It's purely to the good of the part if the Sanders movement continues to exist.
It's time for you to stop treating him as the enemy.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)That should always be done. I do however think he very much needs to admit that his presidential campaign is over.
RazBerryBeret
(3,075 posts)unless you think that a person who is trying to advance the Democratic ideology is a sad thing?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)zonkers
(5,865 posts)on edit... Keep it up and watch the "hold your nose and vote" voters become election day "stay at homers".
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Okaaay ...
zonkers
(5,865 posts)due to the accumulative effect of all the bashing.
Squinch
(50,936 posts)LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)there are a lot of excellent Democrats fighting for this country every day, and for Sanders and his followers to continue to imply that the party is corrupt and lost, except for them, is getting pretty old.
swhisper1
(851 posts)realmirage
(2,117 posts)Yeah. The party's doing just fine
swhisper1
(851 posts)realmirage
(2,117 posts)I'm realmirage.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)swhisper1
(851 posts)is wrong with you? Still cannot see his standing tripled? Do not bash a democrat Janey, and his millions of followers, it does not help the struggle to unify the party
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)So in John Lewis, Liz Warren, Obama, Biden and many other good Democrats.
swhisper1
(851 posts)either way, the revolution has taken hold and John Lewis is the champion this week
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)You seem to believe Sanders is still talking about the primaries.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...and other Democrats to get elected?
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)A person of the People, for the People.
No one can/could do more for the people of the United States of America and the planet...
TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)Me too!
Jennylynn
(696 posts)Uhgain.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)If you're going to take a swipe, have the guts to do it openly.
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LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)How is this NOT a personal attack against Secretary Clinton?
"Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate"
swhisper1
(851 posts)LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Exactly how else can one interpret that plain statement?
"Senator Sanders" = a specific person
"the only" = no others
"Statesperson" = A political leader who promotes the public good or who is recognized for probity, leadership, or the qualities necessary to govern a state
"to run for President in many many decades" = meaning not President Obama, not Senator Gore, and not Secretary Clinton
What part of that is a misinterpretation?
swhisper1
(851 posts)no one is attacking them, just stating what many believe, just as valid as you worshiping them
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)He very clearly said (albeit in a passive-aggressive way) that President Obama is not a statesman. And that Secretary Clinton and Vice President Gore and Senator Kerry, among other Democrats who have run for president in the past few decades were not statesmen. Praising Bernie Sanders does not require and should not involve tearing down other progressive Democrats.
swhisper1
(851 posts)good Bernie has triggered.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)Praising Bernie does not require trashing every other Democrat.
840high
(17,196 posts)zonkers
(5,865 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)He just doesn't want to say that he lost.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He is talking about continuing to fight for what is right and just. You guys really need to stop fighting the last war. If we can get over it surely you can too.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)At least not on my part.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)It is not heresy to support long-term Democratic ideals, even though they have been sorely compromised and sacrificed to a higher power...money.
Ask a union member (not the elite Managers) how it's going. Ask a worker who's union got busted how it's going. Ask a worker who is unemployed or underemployed how it's going.
The Democratic Left will Not Go Away...no matter how Center-Right the In Crowd merges.
Go Bernie. He has more fire in his belly than just acceding to the personal achievement of being President of the United States.
jillan
(39,451 posts)fighting for a more progressive Dem party.
swhisper1
(851 posts)so much for unity
jillan
(39,451 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)puffy socks
(1,473 posts)In order for any revolution to have effect you need big numbers of people, how is he going get those by continuing to divide people? That doesn't make sense.
It's also arrogant and insulting for an Independent to come into the Dem party asking for help because they didn't have the infrastructure needed to run a campaign, and then proceed to try a hostile takeover and change it to his liking. Since when do we change the party to reflect what a minority of the party wants?
Not only that, but Dems have been fighting for most of the things in Bernie's platform for decades. Too many here post about how he supposedly initiated discussion of these Progressive issues. He didn't.
swhisper1
(851 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)to the House & Senate?
Bernie is presently going around the country campaigning - not for himself - but for Democrats trying to get elected.
He is also sending out fundraising emails for these candidates.
Gosh, getting Dems elected is soooooo destructive and arrogant of him.
"forcing open the door" of the Democratic Party to allow working Americans, not political elites, to run it. That was a not-subtle swipe at a party he complained rigged the nominating system in Clinton's favor."
is arrogance.
Why hasn't he conceded if he's all for unity and the Dems and not trying for the nomination and it's all about a "revolution" ?
It is arrogant to try and take over the party and change it to whatever he wishes, he lost.
swhisper1
(851 posts)oasis
(49,370 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)swhisper1
(851 posts)oasis
(49,370 posts)different states. Dedicated, hardworking party members, many who have made a lifelong commitment to make the Dem Party what it is today, are not about to hand over the keys to a bunch of Johnny Come Latelys.
jillan
(39,451 posts)the House and the Senate for his entire career.
He has been the head of committees in the Senate representing the Democratic Party. Why would Harry Reid put him in that position of being the head of significant committees if he is not a hardworking member of the Senate who is committed to Democratic principals?
He votes with the Democrats almost 100% of the time.
To say he is a Johnny Come Lately is rather ludicrous, to be kind.
oasis
(49,370 posts)Bernie wants to recruit for the makeover of the Dem Party.
jillan
(39,451 posts)make climate change a top priority, invest in the future of the country by investing in the people.
I HOPE we get more FDR style candidates in Congress and get away from the center-right that we have become.
Obama has taken us in the right direction and did as much as he could with this congress.
That's why Bernie is working so hard to get more progressives elected so we can further advance these principals.
Since Hillary will most likely be our President, I would think this would make her supporters happy so she could get more accomplished.
We would have had single payer IF we had more liberals in the Senate rather than DINOS like the ones who fought against single payer.
oasis
(49,370 posts)If a more progressive agenda can be adopted early on, that's fine with me.
jillan
(39,451 posts)I would think she would love that.
Especially after seeing what President Obama has gone thru over the last 6 years.
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brentspeak
(18,290 posts)-- er, "Democrats" -- mean when they say that "Bernie will 'destroy' the party". Bringing the party back to FDR's party and taking it back from Wall Street is "destruction" to them.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)I predict the revolution would be in full swing by 2041 and fulfilled by 2108.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I believe it is because they don't understand WHY it is happening.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Response to EffieBlack (Reply #65)
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