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insta8er

(960 posts)
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:19 PM Jun 2016

Sanders Says His Revolution Is 'Just Getting Started

Bernie Sanders told a roaring crowd of supporters Thursday that his campaign is "just getting started" fighting economic inequality, changing the Democratic Party and bolstering Democrats running for Congress.

Speaking to a packed hall in Manhattan, Sanders took something of a victory lap as he reviewed the states he won and the fact that many young people flocked to his campaign over presumptive Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's. He did not mention her name, let alone endorse her as leading Democrats have urged.

"Our goal from day one has been to transform this nation and that is the fight we are going to continue," Sanders, his voice hoarse, told supporters who packed a venue called The Town Hall near Times Square. "We have got to make sure that (Republican presidential candidate Donald) Trump is not president. But that is not good enough."

The independent senator got standing ovations as he reviewed his campaign positions, from free health care and college tuition to campaign finance reform. Sanders urged his supporters to keep fighting inequality and insisting on "forcing open the door" of the Democratic Party to allow working Americans, not political elites, to run it. That was a not-subtle swipe at a party he complained rigged the nominating system in Clinton's favor.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/sanders-revolution-started-40090780

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Sanders Says His Revolution Is 'Just Getting Started (Original Post) insta8er Jun 2016 OP
This is just getting sad now. JaneyVee Jun 2016 #1
How so? SpareribSP Jun 2016 #3
No it isn't. And there's no need for Bernie to end the movement for real change Ken Burch Jun 2016 #4
No, there certainly isn't any need to end advocacy for progressive change. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #39
it's not sad at all... RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #5
Indeed. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #6
Shocker! Cali_Dem piles on Bernie! Keep it up! zonkers Jun 2016 #62
"Indeed" is "piling on?" EffieBlack Jun 2016 #66
of course it's not piling on. Just overreacting zonkers Jun 2016 #69
Yes it is. Squinch Jun 2016 #7
Because, in case you haven't noticed this week LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #11
yet too many are corrupt and lost swhisper1 Jun 2016 #25
And how long did sanders stay for the sit in? realmirage Jun 2016 #36
if you cannot be serious, goodbye. Hate is a terrible disease swhisper1 Jun 2016 #38
I cannot be serious, I don't know who that is. realmirage Jun 2016 #40
Why do you hate Sen Sanders? Why do you hate the Left? rhett o rick Jun 2016 #52
you are wrong. He is absolutely correct to give democrats hope for a voice in the future.What swhisper1 Jun 2016 #15
Hillary is doing quite well in unifying the Party leftofcool Jun 2016 #55
I do believe it is Bernie who did that, not Hillary, but you are entitled to your opinion swhisper1 Jun 2016 #57
What is sad is your lack of understanding of what he is talking about AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #24
Now? It was sad about a week ago. SaschaHM Jun 2016 #26
Are you against Sanders trying to help Russ Feingold Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #30
Pathetic would be my choice of words. n/t cosmicone Jun 2016 #32
This is just mean spirited. Shame on you. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #51
Senator Sanders - the only Statesperson to run for President in many many decades... TheProgressive Jun 2016 #2
... Jennylynn Jun 2016 #8
Oh my gosh - and a Cubs fan!!!!!!!!! TheProgressive Jun 2016 #16
Doin' great this year! Jennylynn Jun 2016 #49
SO.... Obama not a statesperson? HRC? Adrahil Jun 2016 #10
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #12
"the only Statesperson to run for President in many many decades" LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #13
funny how some jump to interpretations swhisper1 Jun 2016 #18
"jump to interpretations" LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #23
I suggest you take a sedative swhisper1 Jun 2016 #27
I'm fine, and you didn't answer the question. (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #28
It very obviously is an attack. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #43
I agree, tho many would interpret this as an attack on the nominee. They dont see the long term swhisper1 Jun 2016 #22
That's because it is an attack on the nominee. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #61
Kick with love for Bernie 840high Jun 2016 #20
And he is just getting started. This man is a gift. zonkers Jun 2016 #63
At this point, there is no campaign left KingFlorez Jun 2016 #9
He isn't talking about his primary campaign AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #29
There really is no war being fought KingFlorez Jun 2016 #37
There is no Democratic Obligation to support the Third Way. libdem4life Jun 2016 #14
What a lot of people are missing this is no longer about his run for President, it's about jillan Jun 2016 #17
seems like they dont want the success Bernie is having inspiring people to stop corruption swhisper1 Jun 2016 #19
True. Not to mention the success he has had bringing new voters to the party. jillan Jun 2016 #47
Sing it loud! 840high Jun 2016 #21
Then why not concede and unify instead of bashing the Dems? puffy socks Jun 2016 #31
You might want to get that looked at swhisper1 Jun 2016 #41
Bashing the Dems? If Bernie is bashing the Dems why is he out campaigning to get Democrats elected jillan Jun 2016 #48
yes puffy socks Jun 2016 #58
broken glasses make one say foolish things swhisper1 Jun 2016 #60
Seats at the table, yes. Big "no" to takeover of our party. oasis Jun 2016 #34
I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say. jillan Jun 2016 #35
I'm puzzled too swhisper1 Jun 2016 #42
Over the years I've worked with the Democratic Party in three oasis Jun 2016 #44
You really don't know much about Bernie, do you? He has been caucusing with the Dems in both jillan Jun 2016 #46
Huh? I wasn't referring to Bernie. It's the so called "revolutionaries" oasis Jun 2016 #50
He wants a more progressive party, to go back to the party of FDR, increase social security, jillan Jun 2016 #53
Hillary won. It's up to her to call the shots. oasis Jun 2016 #56
And Bernie shouldn't help her get more Dems elected to Congress? jillan Jun 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Still In Wisconsin Jun 2016 #68
That's what the establishment infiltrators brentspeak Jun 2016 #45
If it is just getting started and it took over a year, cosmicone Jun 2016 #33
I find it amazing how some folks just cannot see what is happening AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #64
Cool. bigwillq Jun 2016 #54
Please just stop, Bernie EffieBlack Jun 2016 #65
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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. No it isn't. And there's no need for Bernie to end the movement for real change
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jun 2016

just because his presidential campaign is over.

Bernie and the vast majority of his supporters will back HRC in the fall, but that doesn't require him to disband everyone who has backed him. It's purely to the good of the part if the Sanders movement continues to exist.

It's time for you to stop treating him as the enemy.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
39. No, there certainly isn't any need to end advocacy for progressive change.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jun 2016

That should always be done. I do however think he very much needs to admit that his presidential campaign is over.

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
5. it's not sad at all...
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:48 PM
Jun 2016

unless you think that a person who is trying to advance the Democratic ideology is a sad thing?

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
62. Shocker! Cali_Dem piles on Bernie! Keep it up!
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jun 2016

on edit... Keep it up and watch the "hold your nose and vote" voters become election day "stay at homers".

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
69. of course it's not piling on. Just overreacting
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:48 AM
Jun 2016

due to the accumulative effect of all the bashing.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
11. Because, in case you haven't noticed this week
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jun 2016

there are a lot of excellent Democrats fighting for this country every day, and for Sanders and his followers to continue to imply that the party is corrupt and lost, except for them, is getting pretty old.

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
15. you are wrong. He is absolutely correct to give democrats hope for a voice in the future.What
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:23 PM
Jun 2016

is wrong with you? Still cannot see his standing tripled? Do not bash a democrat Janey, and his millions of followers, it does not help the struggle to unify the party

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
55. Hillary is doing quite well in unifying the Party
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jun 2016

So in John Lewis, Liz Warren, Obama, Biden and many other good Democrats.

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
57. I do believe it is Bernie who did that, not Hillary, but you are entitled to your opinion
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:25 AM
Jun 2016

either way, the revolution has taken hold and John Lewis is the champion this week

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
24. What is sad is your lack of understanding of what he is talking about
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jun 2016

You seem to believe Sanders is still talking about the primaries.





 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
2. Senator Sanders - the only Statesperson to run for President in many many decades...
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:36 PM
Jun 2016

A person of the People, for the People.

No one can/could do more for the people of the United States of America and the planet...

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
10. SO.... Obama not a statesperson? HRC?
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jun 2016

If you're going to take a swipe, have the guts to do it openly.

Response to TheProgressive (Reply #2)

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
13. "the only Statesperson to run for President in many many decades"
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:19 PM
Jun 2016

How is this NOT a personal attack against Secretary Clinton?

"Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate"

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
23. "jump to interpretations"
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:33 PM
Jun 2016

Exactly how else can one interpret that plain statement?

"Senator Sanders" = a specific person

"the only" = no others

"Statesperson" = A political leader who promotes the public good or who is recognized for probity, leadership, or the qualities necessary to govern a state

"to run for President in many many decades" = meaning not President Obama, not Senator Gore, and not Secretary Clinton

What part of that is a misinterpretation?

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
27. I suggest you take a sedative
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:35 PM
Jun 2016

no one is attacking them, just stating what many believe, just as valid as you worshiping them

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
43. It very obviously is an attack.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jun 2016

He very clearly said (albeit in a passive-aggressive way) that President Obama is not a statesman. And that Secretary Clinton and Vice President Gore and Senator Kerry, among other Democrats who have run for president in the past few decades were not statesmen. Praising Bernie Sanders does not require and should not involve tearing down other progressive Democrats.

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
22. I agree, tho many would interpret this as an attack on the nominee. They dont see the long term
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jun 2016

good Bernie has triggered.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
61. That's because it is an attack on the nominee.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jun 2016

Praising Bernie does not require trashing every other Democrat.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
29. He isn't talking about his primary campaign
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jun 2016

He is talking about continuing to fight for what is right and just. You guys really need to stop fighting the last war. If we can get over it surely you can too.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
14. There is no Democratic Obligation to support the Third Way.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:21 PM
Jun 2016

It is not heresy to support long-term Democratic ideals, even though they have been sorely compromised and sacrificed to a higher power...money.

Ask a union member (not the elite Managers) how it's going. Ask a worker who's union got busted how it's going. Ask a worker who is unemployed or underemployed how it's going.

The Democratic Left will Not Go Away...no matter how Center-Right the In Crowd merges.

Go Bernie. He has more fire in his belly than just acceding to the personal achievement of being President of the United States.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
17. What a lot of people are missing this is no longer about his run for President, it's about
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jun 2016

fighting for a more progressive Dem party.

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
19. seems like they dont want the success Bernie is having inspiring people to stop corruption
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jun 2016

so much for unity

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
31. Then why not concede and unify instead of bashing the Dems?
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jun 2016

In order for any revolution to have effect you need big numbers of people, how is he going get those by continuing to divide people? That doesn't make sense.

It's also arrogant and insulting for an Independent to come into the Dem party asking for help because they didn't have the infrastructure needed to run a campaign, and then proceed to try a hostile takeover and change it to his liking. Since when do we change the party to reflect what a minority of the party wants?

Not only that, but Dems have been fighting for most of the things in Bernie's platform for decades. Too many here post about how he supposedly initiated discussion of these Progressive issues. He didn't.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
48. Bashing the Dems? If Bernie is bashing the Dems why is he out campaigning to get Democrats elected
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:03 AM
Jun 2016

to the House & Senate?

Bernie is presently going around the country campaigning - not for himself - but for Democrats trying to get elected.
He is also sending out fundraising emails for these candidates.

Gosh, getting Dems elected is soooooo destructive and arrogant of him.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
58. yes
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:25 AM
Jun 2016

"forcing open the door" of the Democratic Party to allow working Americans, not political elites, to run it. That was a not-subtle swipe at a party he complained rigged the nominating system in Clinton's favor."


is arrogance.




Why hasn't he conceded if he's all for unity and the Dems and not trying for the nomination and it's all about a "revolution" ?

It is arrogant to try and take over the party and change it to whatever he wishes, he lost.

oasis

(49,370 posts)
44. Over the years I've worked with the Democratic Party in three
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jun 2016

different states. Dedicated, hardworking party members, many who have made a lifelong commitment to make the Dem Party what it is today, are not about to hand over the keys to a bunch of Johnny Come Latelys.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
46. You really don't know much about Bernie, do you? He has been caucusing with the Dems in both
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:59 PM
Jun 2016

the House and the Senate for his entire career.

He has been the head of committees in the Senate representing the Democratic Party. Why would Harry Reid put him in that position of being the head of significant committees if he is not a hardworking member of the Senate who is committed to Democratic principals?

He votes with the Democrats almost 100% of the time.

To say he is a Johnny Come Lately is rather ludicrous, to be kind.

oasis

(49,370 posts)
50. Huh? I wasn't referring to Bernie. It's the so called "revolutionaries"
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:12 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie wants to recruit for the makeover of the Dem Party.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
53. He wants a more progressive party, to go back to the party of FDR, increase social security,
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:19 AM
Jun 2016

make climate change a top priority, invest in the future of the country by investing in the people.

I HOPE we get more FDR style candidates in Congress and get away from the center-right that we have become.
Obama has taken us in the right direction and did as much as he could with this congress.
That's why Bernie is working so hard to get more progressives elected so we can further advance these principals.

Since Hillary will most likely be our President, I would think this would make her supporters happy so she could get more accomplished.
We would have had single payer IF we had more liberals in the Senate rather than DINOS like the ones who fought against single payer.

oasis

(49,370 posts)
56. Hillary won. It's up to her to call the shots.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:25 AM
Jun 2016

If a more progressive agenda can be adopted early on, that's fine with me.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
59. And Bernie shouldn't help her get more Dems elected to Congress?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jun 2016

I would think she would love that.

Especially after seeing what President Obama has gone thru over the last 6 years.

Response to oasis (Reply #34)

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
45. That's what the establishment infiltrators
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jun 2016

-- er, "Democrats" -- mean when they say that "Bernie will 'destroy' the party". Bringing the party back to FDR's party and taking it back from Wall Street is "destruction" to them.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
33. If it is just getting started and it took over a year,
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016

I predict the revolution would be in full swing by 2041 and fulfilled by 2108.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
64. I find it amazing how some folks just cannot see what is happening
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:11 PM
Jun 2016

I believe it is because they don't understand WHY it is happening.

Response to EffieBlack (Reply #65)

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