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edhopper

(33,432 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:22 PM Jun 2016

Why I think Bernie hasn't endorsed Hillary yet.

Because he still wants to talk about his progressive agenda, like minimum wage and Universal Healthcare.
The moment he endorses, the media will treat him as a Hillary surrogate and just ask Hillary-Trump questions.
He doesn't want to be out there just defending and applauding Hillary.

And that's okay, he will eventual and in the mean time he can keep these issues alive.

Don't think him waiting will have a big effect on the GE.

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Why I think Bernie hasn't endorsed Hillary yet. (Original Post) edhopper Jun 2016 OP
Has he congratulated her, yet? grossproffit Jun 2016 #1
Don't know edhopper Jun 2016 #4
Yes, actually it is. grossproffit Jun 2016 #6
I am sure he will back her edhopper Jun 2016 #9
I'm not holding my breath... grossproffit Jun 2016 #12
I am sure you are wrong zorgin Jun 2016 #30
Yes. It's basic etiquette to congratulate someone who wins. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #16
And? edhopper Jun 2016 #18
Not to violate rules here, but the point is that he's not out, technically. That's why he matters. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #20
I care. It makes him look sort of petty I think. And he doesn't gain any credibility but denying she bettyellen Jun 2016 #19
yes, he did swhisper1 Jun 2016 #32
In the realm of the average American he is already a non-entity. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #2
Whatever the "ideal" moment was, I think he missed that window of opportunity. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #8
It shows a massive lack of judgment cosmicone Jun 2016 #14
All these "major speeches" are major nothings. Squinch Jun 2016 #25
Agreed Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #17
I think the ideal moment would have been for him to join Obama and Warren the day they Squinch Jun 2016 #24
RE: Cutting to commercial while speaking... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #26
That was my instinct as well Haveadream Jun 2016 #31
It depends on if you believe the Bloomberg poll. If you do, Bernie needs to change his act. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #3
I figure edhopper Jun 2016 #5
Sanders? Eom. MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #7
Fried chicken. n/t Hiraeth Jun 2016 #10
He admitted to Colbert he likes the attention n/t DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #11
Well that's that, then. He must be a shape-shifting demon in human form. hedda_foil Jun 2016 #13
I saw that. bravenak Jun 2016 #27
I saw that, too. eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #29
It might have something to Faux pas Jun 2016 #15
Sanders should stay around. He represents the interests of a lot of Americans. skidoo Jun 2016 #21
He wants to influence the platform.. speaktruthtopower Jun 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Still In Wisconsin Jun 2016 #36
Popcorn. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #23
Once he quits his campaign he will fade back into obscurity liberal N proud Jun 2016 #28
He thinks he will have more influence Buzz cook Jun 2016 #33
What are the chances he even speaks at the convention? Still In Wisconsin Jun 2016 #35
If he endorses, he'll get to speak. Buzz cook Jun 2016 #37
I do think he needs to endorse... Still In Wisconsin Jun 2016 #38
Clinton spoke in 08. Bradley spoke in 2000 Buzz cook Jun 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Still In Wisconsin Jun 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Still In Wisconsin Jun 2016 #34
He has. But nobody said "no backsies" and he took it back. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #39

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
6. Yes, actually it is.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jun 2016

She's the first female presidential nominee of any major party. It's a slap in the face to many.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
12. I'm not holding my breath...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders said Friday he will likely vote for Hillary Clinton for president in November, the strongest expression of support yet from the Vermont senator, but he left the door open that he could change his mind.

"In all likelihood, it will be Hillary Clinton," Sanders told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day."

 

zorgin

(11 posts)
30. I am sure you are wrong
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jun 2016

There is a storm brewing and it starts with the unwavering support Bernie Sanders has. Just wait and see what happens when the DNC does not adopt his platform....

edhopper

(33,432 posts)
18. And?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie's out, I am pointing out that what he does now isn't a big deal and why he might be doing it.

It's analysis, not defense.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
20. Not to violate rules here, but the point is that he's not out, technically. That's why he matters.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jun 2016
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. I care. It makes him look sort of petty I think. And he doesn't gain any credibility but denying she
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jun 2016

Has won.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. Whatever the "ideal" moment was, I think he missed that window of opportunity.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jun 2016

I'm sure that it was largely a guessing game on how to maximize his "peak moment" ... but in my opinion, he waited much to long, and from this point forward, he's moving further and further away from that peak.

Oh well, such is life. We can't worry about what he does or doesn't do, or when he might decide that it's the right moment so to do ... We've got an election to win!

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
14. It shows a massive lack of judgment
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jun 2016

Sensible people know that once a certain event takes place, the audience and therefore media move on to the aftermath of that event.

His teasing the media of promising yet another "major speech" is also teasing people who look forward to him conceding. Pretty soon, his announcement of another "major speech" will elicit nothing but yawns.

His best bet of remaining in the spotlight is to become a Hillary surrogate. That will make him relevant again and he won't devolve to "Bernie who?"

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
17. Agreed
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:08 PM
Jun 2016

Everything has shifted and that was pre-Brexit as well. Now that we're in the summer season and nothing until the convention, he's basically lost the "public" momentum. The activist side will still be working it, but even a lot of those have peeled off to focus on the bigger picture in the immediacy.

Squinch

(50,890 posts)
24. I think the ideal moment would have been for him to join Obama and Warren the day they
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jun 2016

both endorsed. If he had done it then, he would hands down be seen today as a driving force of the party.

As it is, now he's the guy where they cut to commercial when he speaks.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. RE: Cutting to commercial while speaking...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jun 2016

... that's really not a good sign of being an influential newsmaker. Oh well ... I'm through caring.

Moving on! We've got an election to win!

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
31. That was my instinct as well
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jun 2016

His platform would have been part of the campaign conversation. Not sure why he didn't take advantage of the guaranteed media attention on the campaign to promote his ideas.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
3. It depends on if you believe the Bloomberg poll. If you do, Bernie needs to change his act.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jun 2016

So far, he ha sa very loose interpretation of what "I'll do anything in my power" to prevent Trump from winning means.

hedda_foil

(16,370 posts)
13. Well that's that, then. He must be a shape-shifting demon in human form.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:51 PM
Jun 2016

Or maybe you could provide a link to this confession?

Response to speaktruthtopower (Reply #22)

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
37. If he endorses, he'll get to speak.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jun 2016

I don't think its the best plan to wait till the convention to endorse. That just seems to be the way its playing out.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
40. Clinton spoke in 08. Bradley spoke in 2000
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:53 PM
Jun 2016

And I bet lots of second place finishers have spoken at Democratic conventions.

If Bernie endorses Clinton it would be poor sportsmanship to not allow him to speak.
I'd expect his speech to be ok'd by the party leadership though.

If you remember Hillary Clinton's speech from 08, you'll remember how dramatic it was and how unifying. We should let Bernie do that as well.

Response to Buzz cook (Reply #40)

Response to edhopper (Original post)

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
39. He has. But nobody said "no backsies" and he took it back.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:47 PM
Jun 2016

I've learned from my kids, you need to say "no backsies" and "no crosses count".

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