2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders walks back pledge to vote for Hillary Clinton about an hour after saying he would
Only hours after telling the hosts of Morning Joe that he would be voting for Hillary Clinton in the November election, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders gave a less definitive answer on CNN to the same question, adding the caveat in all likelihood.
Speaking with CNN host Chris Cuomo, Sanders was pressed about not directly endorsing Clinton before being asked about his vote. Simply stated, when the day comes in November and Sanders has to cast his vote, to whom does it go, Cuomo asked Sanders. In all likelihood, Hillary Clinton, Sanders replied.
Cuomo asked, When you say all likelihood, what percentage of error ? before Sanders cut him off saying, I dont want to parse words right now.
Sanders went on to add that he believes This country faces enormous crises, before adding that his campaign is working with Clintons people. He later reiterated his claim that he would do everything he could to make sure Donald Trump was not elected president.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/sanders-walks-back-pledge-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-about-an-hour-after-saying-he-would/
Over it.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)I agree with you that it is getting sad.
DemFromPittsburgh
(102 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Good one.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)chillfactor
(7,573 posts)a shadow of his former self.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Response to tonyt53 (Reply #6)
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Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)swhisper1
(851 posts)MadBadger
(24,089 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... it's very likely that I'm not the only person who feels that way.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)You are not the only person who feels that way.
BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,972 posts)But when I've seen Bernie lately, I either turn the channel or don't watch him
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Right now I'm biting my tongue until it's almost bleeding.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)We have enough to focus on trying to keep Trump out of office...what he is doing...ugh.
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TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)At this point, he'll commit when he's ready. Not really much else to say.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)LexVegas
(6,030 posts)swhisper1
(851 posts)TeamPooka
(24,207 posts)Response to zappaman (Original post)
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okasha
(11,573 posts)a speaking slot, or any help from the party paying off his campaign debt.
swhisper1
(851 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)The documents are public.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)and I am SO over this. This is all about publicity for keeping a failed campaign going.
swhisper1
(851 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)skidoo
(95 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)She won, in fact.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Cha
(296,848 posts)coco77
(1,327 posts)I was told Hillary has it in the bag with or without Bernie or his supporters. Don't sweat it.
Loki
(3,825 posts)And does nothing to secure his attempts to remain relevant or to further his cause. Good sportsmanship is a character issue for me.
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Duval
(4,280 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)I just don't get the strategy here.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Haveadream
(1,630 posts)his reluctance to unequivocally endorse Hillary absolutely damns her with faint praise. It isn't clear if that is because he has reservations about her or if he just still holds out hope that she will somehow fail to be the nominee. Either way, since the primary is well over, his coyness about it is making everyone lose interest and seems anything but confident or decisive. He is hurting his legacy.
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caquillo
(521 posts)In 2008, when she lost to Obama, her supporters (PUMAs) were butthurt, and it was up to Hillary to court them to Obama; she wasn't coddled. She's the victor this time, but once again you think it should be up to her to unite the party? Different sets of rules for Hillary, I suppose.
swhisper1
(851 posts)she does not have to be loved by everyone, she just needs their votes, she needs to make them settle for her- not a hard decision with Trump on the other side.
It is not a different set of rules, it is always the winners job to seduce the losers
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)That is only logical. Hillary is campaigning to that end but it isn't clear right now what Bernie's objective is besides working to have his ideas implemented. Which is fine but he is prevaricating on working to elect the winner of the primary, which is the usual course of events in a Presidential race.
swhisper1
(851 posts)convention, he will give her a share of his time and his support, but it is vital we take congress back to support Hillary, otherwise, all her efforts will find obstruction larger than Obama's
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)It is vital that Dems regain a majority and the top executive position so we can stop the GOP and fix SCOTUS. The latest conservative gun law obstruction shows just how determined they are to stop even the most modest efforts of the Dems.
TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)Clinton won Dems 64/35
http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)It gives a good overview of her relative strengths and weaknesses. There is work to be done, particularly with rural white, independents and millennials. (Interesting because she swept the former two in the '08 primary) Hillary is smart; you know she is on it.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)If Trump is elected.
Sanders is getting dangerous.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The crappiest, according to polling.
George Eliot
(701 posts)I thought Bernie bashing would end once nomination process over. His vote is his own and its none of anybody's business. If you support her, give her credit for being a candidate who can win.
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ericson00
(2,707 posts)he needs to accept this.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Guess which side cant let go?
swhisper1
(851 posts)Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #38)
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John Poet
(2,510 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,489 posts)I voted for you but you need to stop being a twit about this. You lost fair and square, endorse or get off the pot.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)This reminds me of "Marsha! Marsha Marsha!"
swhisper1
(851 posts)going to pledge allegiance until she proves some progressive move. Neither will I
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Sometime in the near future?
swhisper1
(851 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)FSogol
(45,446 posts)I don't get it either.
Squinch
(50,911 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)It sounds to me like he said he will be voting for Hillary.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)The world has moved on.
swhisper1
(851 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)For that to happen, the media has to be involved. And they haven't been too interested lately.
swhisper1
(851 posts)and media is the known enemy. However, he is getting on the shows regularly now, more than he did when running, so I have to disagree with you about that point
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)I haven't been watching much lately so perhaps he's gotten more media attention that I figured. However, he has to keep the media interested because that's how he best communicates with his supporters.
It's good to see him turn to building the movement. That potentially could be his real legacy - creating a movement that actually gets results - electoral victories.
As a Hillary supporter, I wish him the very best in his quest.
swhisper1
(851 posts)TexasTowelie
(111,938 posts)He didn't even get the attention of half of the Democrats, yet alone the remaining population of America that includes independents, Republicans, third parties or people that are concerned about politics. Even if he gathered the attention of people, it does not mean that they agree with him or approve of his positions so I see no need to overstate his importance.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)What he built during the primaries happened with no media coverage. One must understand the nature of the electorate, and there disdain for the self-serving establishment, to understand the Dynamics at work.
dubyadiprecession
(5,678 posts)David__77
(23,329 posts)That wording sounds curious to me, and a form of editorializing.
swhisper1
(851 posts)is voting for. He has said all along he will vote for the democrat, but the OP thinks it is fun to stir the pot
zonkers
(5,865 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,757 posts)in the GE.
These manufactured hit pieces really aren't necessary.
840high
(17,196 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)..The REAL revolution of HRC marches on.
"The Glass Ceiling" And all that.
Power to the people, right on!!!
John Poet
(2,510 posts)He just said basically the same thing in a different way. He's going to vote for Hillary in November, as are most of us.
It appears to me that most of the Bernie folks on this board have moved on, but now it's the Hillary people who can't let go of the vendetta and want to rub salt in the wounds, and report Bernie's every single word while parsing to microscopic minutia.
Have a little adult patience. He's going to endorse Hillary in his own time. You're all like a bunch of kids in the back of the car pining, "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? When will we be there? Are we there yet?" DON'T MAKE ME COME BACK THERE!
We'll be there when we get there. Have a cookie.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Oh well....
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)They're all so complimentary
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)speaking slot at the convention. The thing is Hillary can win without him. It would be nice to have him, but he has to do what he has to do.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)He may get something in the afternoon on the last day, but the Democrats are not going to waste any televised time on a speech that bashes them and doesn't strongly back the nominee. They shouldn't.