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zappaman

(20,606 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:22 PM Jun 2016

Sanders walks back pledge to vote for Hillary Clinton about an hour after saying he would

Only hours after telling the hosts of Morning Joe that he would be voting for Hillary Clinton in the November election, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders gave a less definitive answer on CNN to the same question, adding the caveat “in all likelihood.”

Speaking with CNN host Chris Cuomo, Sanders was pressed about not directly endorsing Clinton before being asked about his vote. “Simply stated, when the day comes in November and Sanders has to cast his vote, to whom does it go, Cuomo asked Sanders. “In all likelihood, Hillary Clinton,” Sanders replied.

Cuomo asked, “When you say all likelihood, what percentage of error –?” before Sanders cut him off saying, “I don’t want to parse words right now.”

Sanders went on to add that he believes “This country faces enormous crises,” before adding that his campaign is working with Clinton’s people. He later reiterated his claim that he would do everything he could to make sure Donald Trump was not elected president.


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/sanders-walks-back-pledge-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-about-an-hour-after-saying-he-would/


Over it.

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Sanders walks back pledge to vote for Hillary Clinton about an hour after saying he would (Original Post) zappaman Jun 2016 OP
This is just getting sad now. JaneyVee Jun 2016 #1
It's very sad. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #23
Pathetic indeed. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #33
Been sad for a while now. Imo. bravenak Jun 2016 #41
Do you think it's just to get attention? scscholar Jun 2016 #60
What good is a deal with someone who goes back on their word??? DemFromPittsburgh Jun 2016 #2
Team player? There is no "me" in team unless you scramble it, like changing superdelgate rules. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #3
Ha! caquillo Jun 2016 #61
hmmmm... puffy socks Jun 2016 #77
sanders has become.... chillfactor Jun 2016 #4
It sounds like he's saying yes to me La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #5
Actions and words do not add up to that. Keep on campaigning/would versus likelihood. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #6
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Sounds like yes to me too. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #8
thank you. some are carrying their hate too far swhisper1 Jun 2016 #66
Then he needs to just say yes at this point MadBadger Jun 2016 #72
He is. The angle to the contrary is silly. morningfog Jun 2016 #100
I'm not surprised. But also, I'm not even disappointed, because just don't care any more. And ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #7
You are correct. puffy socks Jun 2016 #17
+ a million! eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #34
No offense at all .... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #9
New rules, new rules, let me keep repeating that....... Beacool Jun 2016 #10
Ow puffy socks Jun 2016 #18
I agree... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #95
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I'm not going to worry about it anymore. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #12
I don't care anymore. leftofcool Jun 2016 #13
I don't care what he has to say on any subject. LexVegas Jun 2016 #14
thank you are entitled to your opinion. I lend you no malice swhisper1 Jun 2016 #50
Waiter, check please! nt TeamPooka Jun 2016 #15
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There goes his influence on convention committees, okasha Jun 2016 #22
petty remarks are not appreciated swhisper1 Jun 2016 #65
Taking offense at obvious facts is not a good political tactic. okasha Jun 2016 #84
'obvious facts' - and yet no sourcing ever for why he has campaign debt as you claimed JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #104
See the FEC documents. okasha Jun 2016 #106
Cute, but I prefer substantive replies rather than vague generalities. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #107
I'm not your librarian or your nanny. okasha Jun 2016 #108
Any reputable reporting on this topic? Seems like a nice article for a reporter to get. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #109
Evidence he has campaign debt? Or just more shit slinging about Bernie? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #103
I'm not surprised DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #24
bull...t swhisper1 Jun 2016 #48
Calf... Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #85
Sanders has a lot of supporters across the country. skidoo Jun 2016 #25
Hillary has many more mcar Jun 2016 #35
What's that have to do with the OP? zappaman Jun 2016 #37
And? Hillary has more. bravenak Jun 2016 #40
HIllary has more who will take her to the White House. Cha Jun 2016 #76
What's the big deal? coco77 Jun 2016 #26
This is becoming offensive Loki Jun 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #101
I believe Sanders will support the Democratic nominee. Duval Jun 2016 #28
I believe he will too, Duval mcar Jun 2016 #36
Sure but by the time he does, nobody will care (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #42
Because Bernie is usually so unwavering in his positions Haveadream Jun 2016 #29
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Why is it solely on her? caquillo Jun 2016 #62
because she is the nominee and has to win the trust of almost half the dems swhisper1 Jun 2016 #63
It is most effective when both candidates persuade the supporters Haveadream Jun 2016 #74
you cannot fault him from taking this month to secure his downticket dems in their races. After the swhisper1 Jun 2016 #75
Agree Haveadream Jun 2016 #80
35% is not "almost half the Dems" TwilightZone Jun 2016 #78
Thank you for sharing that break down Haveadream Jun 2016 #82
Yes sanders, this nation IS facing a big crisis The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #30
Fear is a crappy motivator AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #90
It's over. It is hers to win or lose. She's the candidate. Quit bashing Bernie. George Eliot Jun 2016 #31
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the people decided, by a 12.5 margin ericson00 Jun 2016 #32
After all the "tick tock".... AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #38
Jesus, they really can't let go swhisper1 Jun 2016 #45
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Indeed. John Poet Jun 2016 #87
Totally over it bravenak Jun 2016 #39
Bernie, Bernie, Bernie oswaldactedalone Jun 2016 #43
Ironic AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #88
throwing red meat to your allies I see, Bernie has said over and over he would fight trump. He isn't swhisper1 Jun 2016 #44
Pray tell, when is he actually going to start fighting Trump??? Beacool Jun 2016 #51
he is campaigning for down ticket, and bashing Trump continually swhisper1 Jun 2016 #52
The two main speeches he gave recently, like yesterday's, mentioned Trump in passing. Beacool Jun 2016 #53
Blustering rhetoric is more important than actions! FSogol Jun 2016 #46
Bernie who? Squinch Jun 2016 #54
He said he will vote for Hillary UCmeNdc Jun 2016 #55
Why is he still on TV shows? cosmicone Jun 2016 #56
because the movement, his baby, is gaining momentum swhisper1 Jun 2016 #64
The movement is there, but doubtful that it's gaining momentum. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #69
Bernie does not need the media, he has the attention of half the americans at his back swhisper1 Jun 2016 #70
Point well noted. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #71
Thank you, and I wish Hillary a landslide swhisper1 Jun 2016 #73
No, I disagree with you on that point. TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #91
No they dont AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #79
He's fading out like a sad song on the radio. dubyadiprecession Jun 2016 #57
Did he say he "pledged?" David__77 Jun 2016 #59
no, he did not, the poster just wants to cause conflict. It was not the reporters business who Berni swhisper1 Jun 2016 #67
I see it as more of a strut than a walk back. zonkers Jun 2016 #68
No he didn't, and the vast majority of us Sanders supporters will vote for Clinton MerryBlooms Jun 2016 #81
Trashing this crap. 840high Jun 2016 #83
Wow, How Unfortunate, Oh Well.. Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #86
I don't see any "walk-back" here. John Poet Jun 2016 #89
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #92
Post removed Jamaal510 Jun 2016 #93
. ucrdem Jun 2016 #96
I thought we weren't allowed to bash Democrats Armstead Jun 2016 #94
Where's the bashing? zappaman Jun 2016 #97
Oh heavens I don't know.. Armstead Jun 2016 #98
+1 JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #105
Sorry to say it but unless he strongly endorses HRC I don't think he deserves a book_worm Jun 2016 #99
He won't speak in a primetime spot if he hasn't conceded by then. SaschaHM Jun 2016 #102

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. I'm not surprised. But also, I'm not even disappointed, because just don't care any more. And ...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jun 2016

... it's very likely that I'm not the only person who feels that way.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
10. New rules, new rules, let me keep repeating that.......
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:38 PM
Jun 2016

Right now I'm biting my tongue until it's almost bleeding.

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TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
12. I'm not going to worry about it anymore.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jun 2016

At this point, he'll commit when he's ready. Not really much else to say.

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okasha

(11,573 posts)
22. There goes his influence on convention committees,
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:20 PM
Jun 2016

a speaking slot, or any help from the party paying off his campaign debt.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
24. I'm not surprised
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jun 2016

and I am SO over this. This is all about publicity for keeping a failed campaign going.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
26. What's the big deal?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jun 2016

I was told Hillary has it in the bag with or without Bernie or his supporters. Don't sweat it.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
27. This is becoming offensive
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jun 2016

And does nothing to secure his attempts to remain relevant or to further his cause. Good sportsmanship is a character issue for me.

Response to Loki (Reply #27)

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
29. Because Bernie is usually so unwavering in his positions
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jun 2016

his reluctance to unequivocally endorse Hillary absolutely damns her with faint praise. It isn't clear if that is because he has reservations about her or if he just still holds out hope that she will somehow fail to be the nominee. Either way, since the primary is well over, his coyness about it is making everyone lose interest and seems anything but confident or decisive. He is hurting his legacy.

Response to Haveadream (Reply #29)

caquillo

(521 posts)
62. Why is it solely on her?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jun 2016

In 2008, when she lost to Obama, her supporters (PUMAs) were butthurt, and it was up to Hillary to court them to Obama; she wasn't coddled. She's the victor this time, but once again you think it should be up to her to unite the party? Different sets of rules for Hillary, I suppose.

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
63. because she is the nominee and has to win the trust of almost half the dems
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jun 2016

she does not have to be loved by everyone, she just needs their votes, she needs to make them settle for her- not a hard decision with Trump on the other side.

It is not a different set of rules, it is always the winners job to seduce the losers

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
74. It is most effective when both candidates persuade the supporters
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jun 2016

That is only logical. Hillary is campaigning to that end but it isn't clear right now what Bernie's objective is besides working to have his ideas implemented. Which is fine but he is prevaricating on working to elect the winner of the primary, which is the usual course of events in a Presidential race.

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
75. you cannot fault him from taking this month to secure his downticket dems in their races. After the
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jun 2016

convention, he will give her a share of his time and his support, but it is vital we take congress back to support Hillary, otherwise, all her efforts will find obstruction larger than Obama's

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
80. Agree
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jun 2016

It is vital that Dems regain a majority and the top executive position so we can stop the GOP and fix SCOTUS. The latest conservative gun law obstruction shows just how determined they are to stop even the most modest efforts of the Dems.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
82. Thank you for sharing that break down
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jun 2016

It gives a good overview of her relative strengths and weaknesses. There is work to be done, particularly with rural white, independents and millennials. (Interesting because she swept the former two in the '08 primary) Hillary is smart; you know she is on it.

George Eliot

(701 posts)
31. It's over. It is hers to win or lose. She's the candidate. Quit bashing Bernie.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:45 PM
Jun 2016

I thought Bernie bashing would end once nomination process over. His vote is his own and its none of anybody's business. If you support her, give her credit for being a candidate who can win.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #38)

oswaldactedalone

(3,489 posts)
43. Bernie, Bernie, Bernie
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jun 2016

I voted for you but you need to stop being a twit about this. You lost fair and square, endorse or get off the pot.
 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
44. throwing red meat to your allies I see, Bernie has said over and over he would fight trump. He isn't
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jun 2016

going to pledge allegiance until she proves some progressive move. Neither will I

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
69. The movement is there, but doubtful that it's gaining momentum.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jun 2016

For that to happen, the media has to be involved. And they haven't been too interested lately.

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
70. Bernie does not need the media, he has the attention of half the americans at his back
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jun 2016

and media is the known enemy. However, he is getting on the shows regularly now, more than he did when running, so I have to disagree with you about that point

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
71. Point well noted.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jun 2016

I haven't been watching much lately so perhaps he's gotten more media attention that I figured. However, he has to keep the media interested because that's how he best communicates with his supporters.

It's good to see him turn to building the movement. That potentially could be his real legacy - creating a movement that actually gets results - electoral victories.

As a Hillary supporter, I wish him the very best in his quest.

TexasTowelie

(111,938 posts)
91. No, I disagree with you on that point.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:44 AM
Jun 2016

He didn't even get the attention of half of the Democrats, yet alone the remaining population of America that includes independents, Republicans, third parties or people that are concerned about politics. Even if he gathered the attention of people, it does not mean that they agree with him or approve of his positions so I see no need to overstate his importance.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
79. No they dont
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jun 2016

What he built during the primaries happened with no media coverage. One must understand the nature of the electorate, and there disdain for the self-serving establishment, to understand the Dynamics at work.

 

swhisper1

(851 posts)
67. no, he did not, the poster just wants to cause conflict. It was not the reporters business who Berni
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jun 2016

is voting for. He has said all along he will vote for the democrat, but the OP thinks it is fun to stir the pot

MerryBlooms

(11,757 posts)
81. No he didn't, and the vast majority of us Sanders supporters will vote for Clinton
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jun 2016

in the GE.

These manufactured hit pieces really aren't necessary.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
86. Wow, How Unfortunate, Oh Well..
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:33 PM
Jun 2016

..The REAL revolution of HRC marches on.
"The Glass Ceiling" And all that.
Power to the people, right on!!!

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
89. I don't see any "walk-back" here.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jun 2016

He just said basically the same thing in a different way. He's going to vote for Hillary in November, as are most of us.

It appears to me that most of the Bernie folks on this board have moved on, but now it's the Hillary people who can't let go of the vendetta and want to rub salt in the wounds, and report Bernie's every single word while parsing to microscopic minutia.

Have a little adult patience. He's going to endorse Hillary in his own time. You're all like a bunch of kids in the back of the car pining, "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? When will we be there? Are we there yet?" DON'T MAKE ME COME BACK THERE!

We'll be there when we get there. Have a cookie.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
99. Sorry to say it but unless he strongly endorses HRC I don't think he deserves a
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jun 2016

speaking slot at the convention. The thing is Hillary can win without him. It would be nice to have him, but he has to do what he has to do.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
102. He won't speak in a primetime spot if he hasn't conceded by then.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:36 PM
Jun 2016

He may get something in the afternoon on the last day, but the Democrats are not going to waste any televised time on a speech that bashes them and doesn't strongly back the nominee. They shouldn't.

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