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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:56 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

 

Armitage to back Clinton over Trump

Former Reagan and Bush appointee is highest-ranking Republican to break ranks for Hillary.

Richard Armitage, the deputy secretary of state under George W. Bush, says he will vote for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, in one of the most dramatic signs yet that Republican national security elites are rejecting their party’s presumptive nominee.

Armitage, a retired Navy officer who also served as an assistant secretary of defense under Ronald Reagan, is thought by Clinton aides to be the highest-ranking former GOP national security official to openly support Clinton over Trump.

“If Donald Trump is the nominee, I would vote for Hillary Clinton,” Armitage told POLITICO in a brief interview. “He doesn't appear to be a Republican, he doesn't appear to want to learn about issues. So, I’m going to vote for Mrs. Clinton.”

Dozens of Republican foreign policy elites have already declared their unwillingness to support or work for Trump, though far fewer say they would cast a ballot for Clinton. The latter group includes Max Boot, a prominent neoconservative military analyst and historian; Mark Salter, former longtime chief of staff to Republican Sen. John McCain; and retired Army Col. Peter Mansour, a former top aide to retired Gen. David Petraeus.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/richard-armitage-endorses-clinton-224431

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Reply Armitage to back Clinton over Trump (Original post)
 insta8er Jun 2016 OP
LineReply Good, she'll win in a landslide...
 SidDithers Jun 2016 #1
LineLineReply Who you talking to me? :) lighten up, she will win in a landslide. And everyone will get what they
 insta8er Jun 2016 #2
LineLineLineReply Posting privileges before principles, eh?...nt
 SidDithers Jun 2016 #3
LineLineLineLineReply I don't understand? are you taking offense to someone endorsing our candidate?
 insta8er Jun 2016 #4
LineLineLineLineLineReply Uh huh...
 SidDithers Jun 2016 #5
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply Or was that a threat? did I do something to upset you?
 insta8er Jun 2016 #6
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply I find it funny that you're trying to make a point...
 SidDithers Jun 2016 #7
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply I wonder why they didn't point out that Russ Feingold also endorsed Hillary?
 book_worm Jun 2016 #9
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply Exactly...
 SidDithers Jun 2016 #10
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply Meanwhile I am trying to figure out the point you are trying to make, but you can't seem to
 insta8er Jun 2016 #11
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply and you find this funny???
 SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #31
LineLineLineReply Passive aggressive much?
 grossproffit Jun 2016 #26
LineReply Just like 1964 many prominent Republicans couldn't back Barry Goldwater
 book_worm Jun 2016 #8
LineReply This will not be helpful in gaining the trust of Sanders voters.
 OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #12
LineLineReply They have the same choice as the rest of us - Trump or Clinton
 TwilightZone Jun 2016 #13
LineLineLineReply So unhelpful.
 OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #14
LineLineLineLineReply No, there are two options in this race.
 TwilightZone Jun 2016 #15
LineLineLineLineLineReply No I don't think I used the "sarcasm" emoticon, so why should this be sarcasm? the endorsements are
 insta8er Jun 2016 #16
LineLineLineLineLineReply Nailed it...
 SidDithers Jun 2016 #17
LineLineLineLineLineReply There is one choice on DU. Only one.
 OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #21
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply You should try reading what I wrote.
 TwilightZone Jun 2016 #22
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Sorry but your reply makes no sense.
 OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #32
LineReply Armitage is evil
 Johnny2X2X Jun 2016 #18
LineReply THANKS FOR THE HILLARY SUPPORT, insta8er, GLAD YOU'RE ON OUR SIDE NOW!!!
 MohRokTah Jun 2016 #19
LineLineReply Totally agree, I appreciate every vote for Hillary, it will be a great day when Trump gets
 Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #27
LineReply That's a good thing.
 George II Jun 2016 #20
LineReply Many Republicans put their concern for the nation ahead of party politics.
 oasis Jun 2016 #23
LineLineReply Most Democrats too. Hillary was a powerhouse for Obama in 2008.
 grossproffit Jun 2016 #24
LineLineLineNew Reply So many GOP stalwarts are endorsing Hillary early on as a signal
 oasis Jun 2016 #29
LineReply This is wonderful news.
 Hiraeth Jun 2016 #25
LineNew Reply I saw him bench press 3 20 kg plates on each side
 scscholar Jun 2016 #28
LineNew Reply There is little doubt that these republicans are putting country before party. When a
 still_one Jun 2016 #30
LineNew Reply This is great!
 DesertRat Jun 2016 #33
LineNew Reply Awesome!
 zappaman Jun 2016 #34
LineNew Reply I am not sure whether to be happy or sad about that. Armitage makes my skin crawl.
 Vattel Jun 2016 #35
LineNew Reply k&r nt
 bananas Jun 2016 #36
LineNew Reply gotta love when the words of RW assholes are trusted here,
 bettyellen Jun 2016 #37

Response to insta8er (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:00 PM

SidDithers (44,228 posts)

1. Good, she'll win in a landslide...

Subtle, you ain't.

Sid

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:01 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

2. Who you talking to me? :) lighten up, she will win in a landslide. And everyone will get what they

 

deserve.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:06 PM

SidDithers (44,228 posts)

3. Posting privileges before principles, eh?...nt

Sid

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:07 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

4. I don't understand? are you taking offense to someone endorsing our candidate?

 

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:09 PM

SidDithers (44,228 posts)

5. Uh huh...



Sid

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:10 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

6. Or was that a threat? did I do something to upset you?

 

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:14 PM

SidDithers (44,228 posts)

7. I find it funny that you're trying to make a point...

but don't have the courage to actually come out and say it.

Your threads in the past half-hour:

Republican Brent Scowcroft backs Clinton
Armitage to back Clinton over Trump
Former top McCain aide: I’ll vote for Clinton over Trump
Bush Treasury Secretary Paulson endorses Clinton
Hard-line right-wing war hawk Max Boot applauds Hillary



Sid

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:16 PM

book_worm (15,951 posts)

9. I wonder why they didn't point out that Russ Feingold also endorsed Hillary?

I'm hoping that Elizabeth Warren will be our VP. She seems to be very comfortable with the idea and supporting Hillary.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:17 PM

SidDithers (44,228 posts)

10. Exactly...



Sid

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:17 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

11. Meanwhile I am trying to figure out the point you are trying to make, but you can't seem to

 

enlighten us with that either. While I have said on most of my posts that she is reaching over to the other side and seems to be getting them aboard. So...your point?

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Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:47 AM

SoLeftIAmRight (4,883 posts)

31. and you find this funny???

 

Republican Brent Scowcroft backs Clinton
Armitage to back Clinton over Trump
Former top McCain aide: I’ll vote for Clinton over Trump
Bush Treasury Secretary Paulson endorses Clinton
Hard-line right-wing war hawk Max Boot applauds Hillary

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:25 PM

grossproffit (5,591 posts)

26. Passive aggressive much?

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:14 PM

book_worm (15,951 posts)

8. Just like 1964 many prominent Republicans couldn't back Barry Goldwater

and even 2008 when Barack Obama got the support of several prominent Republicans.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:29 PM

OrwellwasRight (5,170 posts)

12. This will not be helpful in gaining the trust of Sanders voters.

Armitage and neocons hawks hurt consolidation of the Democratic vote. I wish they would shut up.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:38 PM

TwilightZone (21,885 posts)

13. They have the same choice as the rest of us - Trump or Clinton

and are choosing accordingly.

If some Sanders voters don't understand that, they might want to reevaluate the situation.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:45 PM

OrwellwasRight (5,170 posts)

14. So unhelpful.

People have many choices. Staying home. Voting third party. If we want Hillary Clinton to win, we have to earn the votes of Sanders voters, not say blasé things like "they have the same choice as the rest of us."

As we all should have learned during primary season, there is distrust between the supporters of the two Dem candidates. That won't disappear on its own. It means the Hillary campaign must be smart about reaching out and healing wounds.

Your comments are not only unhelpful, they read as if you have no idea understanding that elections are about turnout. Suppressing turnout does not help Dems.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:54 PM

TwilightZone (21,885 posts)

15. No, there are two options in this race.

As for the OP, he's posting these endorsements sarcastically. I am treating them accordingly.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:02 PM

insta8er (960 posts)

16. No I don't think I used the "sarcasm" emoticon, so why should this be sarcasm? the endorsements are

 

real. I have given the links to each and everyone of them, or don't you like that they are coming from our good friends across the aisle? if that is the case then it sounds like you have a problem. I am just pointing out how well our candidate is perceived on the other side. Please elaborate...

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:19 PM

SidDithers (44,228 posts)

17. Nailed it...



Sid

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:59 PM

OrwellwasRight (5,170 posts)

21. There is one choice on DU. Only one.

There are other choices out in the world of real people. It's them we need to convince. Your response remains unhelpful.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:10 PM

TwilightZone (21,885 posts)

22. You should try reading what I wrote.

I said that they - meaning Republicans - have two choices and are choosing accordingly. In this case - and likely in many more - their choice is Clinton because Trump is a nutjob.

I wasn't talking about DU. This thread isn't about DU. It's about a Republican endorsing Clinton, which I, unlike the person who posted this thread and about a dozen others, have no problem with. The more, the merrier.

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Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:53 AM

OrwellwasRight (5,170 posts)

32. Sorry but your reply makes no sense.

I read what you wrote. It said, in full,

"No, there are two options in this race. As for the OP, he's posting these endorsements sarcastically. I am treating them accordingly."

You didn't say "they" and therefore could not have been referring to any "they."

And comments like "This thread isn't about DU" are irrelevant. If you want to respond to the OP, respond to the OP. If you respond to me, please stay on topic. And my topic was that Armitage endorsing Clinton is not helpful in consolidating the Democratic vote. Sentiments like "you have two choices where ya gonna go" actually are not helpful in consolidating that vote. They are going to sound insensitive and arrogant. We should be strategizing on how to drive D turnout, not saying insensitive things that will drive folks to stay home.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:20 PM

Johnny2X2X (16,387 posts)

18. Armitage is evil

But even he knows that the nuclear codes belong nowhere near Trump.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:26 PM

MohRokTah (15,429 posts)

19. THANKS FOR THE HILLARY SUPPORT, insta8er, GLAD YOU'RE ON OUR SIDE NOW!!!

 

Keep these GOP endorsements coming, every last one is OUTSTANDING NEWS for Democrats!!!!!!!!

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:29 PM

Thinkingabout (30,058 posts)

27. Totally agree, I appreciate every vote for Hillary, it will be a great day when Trump gets

Beat by a wide margin.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:48 PM

Star Member George II (67,782 posts)

20. That's a good thing.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:17 PM

Star Member oasis (48,881 posts)

23. Many Republicans put their concern for the nation ahead of party politics.

Good for them.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:22 PM

grossproffit (5,591 posts)

24. Most Democrats too. Hillary was a powerhouse for Obama in 2008.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:36 PM

Star Member oasis (48,881 posts)

29. So many GOP stalwarts are endorsing Hillary early on as a signal

to America how dangerous Trump would be as president. Certain Democrats would be wise to catch on and follow their lead.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:24 PM

Hiraeth (4,805 posts)

25. This is wonderful news.

She will be a great president

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:29 PM

scscholar (2,902 posts)

28. I saw him bench press 3 20 kg plates on each side

 

plus the 20 kg bar, so he isn't a normal person. This means nothing.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:37 PM

Star Member still_one (87,989 posts)

30. There is little doubt that these republicans are putting country before party. When a

Bloomberg poll indicates that up to 50% of supposed Sanders supporters say they will not vote for Hillary in the general election against Trump, that implies that those supposed voters don't see Trump as the danger he really is

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-22/nearly-half-of-sanders-supporters-won-t-support-clinton

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Sun Jun 26, 2016, 01:38 AM

Star Member DesertRat (27,995 posts)

33. This is great!

"Dozens of Republican foreign policy elites have already declared their unwillingness to support or work for Trump."

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Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:06 AM

zappaman (20,597 posts)

34. Awesome!

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Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:24 AM

Vattel (9,289 posts)

35. I am not sure whether to be happy or sad about that. Armitage makes my skin crawl.

 

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Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:32 AM

bananas (27,509 posts)

36. k&r nt

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Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:43 AM

bettyellen (47,209 posts)

37. gotta love when the words of RW assholes are trusted here,

 

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