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fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:11 PM Jun 2016

Benghazi witch hunt proven

It was all a big witch hunt and now we know for a fact. Progressives should have KNOWN what republicans do but instead many of you humped this story and joined republicans. I'm hoping some of you will apologize for joining in driving Hillary's numbers down for political reasons.

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Benghazi witch hunt proven (Original Post) fun n serious Jun 2016 OP
Between this and the $28 million Whitewater witch hunt, forest444 Jun 2016 #1
WHo humped this story? I don't remember any here humping the Benghazi nonsense. morningfog Jun 2016 #2
All part of the untruthful meme that was pushed by several on here. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #3
The FBI investigation is a legitimate and serious concern. morningfog Jun 2016 #8
As Obama, Warren, and others know, there is nothing of any consequence. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #11
They don't "know," unless you think Obama and Lynch are lying. morningfog Jun 2016 #15
That's another repug generated non-scandal brush Jun 2016 #17
The FBI and the DOJ don't do repug generated non-scandals. morningfog Jun 2016 #20
It is repug generated, whether you don't want to say non-scandal or not. brush Jun 2016 #23
I hope you are right that there will be no charges. But you don't know that and morningfog Jun 2016 #27
Naive, huh? What Democrat, I ask you, origninated that crap? brush Jun 2016 #29
Are you suggesting Comey and Lynch do the repug's bidding? morningfog Jun 2016 #32
Come on. You know neither Comey or Lynch initiated the email "scandal". brush Jun 2016 #44
So why aren't they investigating Colin Powell? Adrahil Jun 2016 #35
You should read the State OIG report. What HIllary did is different in kind, not simply degree. morningfog Jun 2016 #36
Bullshit. I think you and your ilk are carrying the GOP's water. Adrahil Jun 2016 #37
You are wrong. I know Hillary is the nominee and have long morningfog Jun 2016 #38
"records..destroyed ..during a federal agency's investigation"? Really!? She turned in emails when Bill USA Jun 2016 #42
Read the report. morningfog Jun 2016 #46
you claim this is in the report. It should be no problem for you to state the page or provide a link Bill USA Jun 2016 #52
Pp. 26-28. morningfog Jun 2016 #53
did not see anything there about her "destroying emails during fed investigation". A quote and page Bill USA Jun 2016 #54
Sorry bub. If you don't understand what you read, not my problem. morningfog Jun 2016 #58
I can read thank you. & I didn't see anything indicating "destroying records during Fed investigat'n Bill USA Jul 2016 #60
this is how the disinformation campaign against HRC by the GOP works. You made a charge that was Bill USA Jul 2016 #61
Powell & Rice used personal email accounts 4 gov business, with commercial email service providers Bill USA Jun 2016 #43
I don't think there is any criminal liability risk with the security of the server. morningfog Jun 2016 #48
please provide source & quote showing what you read that said that Bill USA Jun 2016 #55
"intentional destruction of federal record during a fed agency investigation" wheredid you get that? Bill USA Jun 2016 #57
"criminal investigation"? thanks for repeating GOP disfuckinginformation. Bill USA Jun 2016 #41
Dude, the FBI only does criminal investigations. morningfog Jun 2016 #45
Referral from Intelligence Community & Dept of State IGs was not a criminal referral Bill USA Jun 2016 #50
Potentially criminal? CaptainSensible Jun 2016 #56
Some people here did.. fun n serious Jun 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author fun n serious Jun 2016 #5
They know who they are... fun n serious Jun 2016 #6
I think you are probably conflating the Benghazi witch hunt and the FBI criminal investigation. morningfog Jun 2016 #9
Both are promoted by right wing idiots. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #16
The FBI is an independent agency, as is the DOJ. morningfog Jun 2016 #19
Correct. My point stands. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #21
Yes. The FBI is promoting nothing and reporting on the state of the FBI investigation is morningfog Jun 2016 #22
Not if, when. They are pathetic and desperate. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #24
It is if, not when. We just don't know yet. morningfog Jun 2016 #28
Hi itsrobert Jun 2016 #13
No one here humped the Benghazi bullshit. nt Autumn Jun 2016 #7
I agree. I honestly don't remember anyone pushing the Benghazi nonsense. Vattel Jun 2016 #47
Not that I saw, either. merrily Jun 2016 #49
Lest ye forget! Uben Jun 2016 #12
March and April witnessed a slough of hatchet-stories about this on DU LanternWaste Jun 2016 #31
On the Benghazi hearings or Hillary's server? morningfog Jun 2016 #33
The Benghazi hearings started with a conflation of the two - wouldn't have existed without it. baldguy Jun 2016 #40
. baldguy Jun 2016 #39
Hunt: proven. Witch? I'm pretty certain that describing the presumptive nominee as such Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #10
An appology won't happen. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #14
I noticed they are not a part of the left.. fun n serious Jun 2016 #25
Still fighting the primary, I see. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #18
Not fighting the primary.. fun n serious Jun 2016 #26
Actually, I have never seen Benghazi touted on DU. The email story gets a lot of tblue37 Jun 2016 #30
K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #34
Three card Monty, conservative Congress and Senate and eight years with Odumbo" CaptainSensible Jun 2016 #51
Around 13 USA embassy and consulates attacked most w/casualties during BushW but no investigations! Her Sister Jun 2016 #59

forest444

(5,902 posts)
1. Between this and the $28 million Whitewater witch hunt,
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jun 2016

one wishes Wisconsin's Senator Bill Proxmire could come back from the dead to bestow his famed Golden Fleece awards.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
3. All part of the untruthful meme that was pushed by several on here.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jun 2016

Emails, Benghazi, TPP, you name it.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
8. The FBI investigation is a legitimate and serious concern.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

And it is wholly separate from the Benghazi nonsense.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
11. As Obama, Warren, and others know, there is nothing of any consequence.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

Otherwise, they would not be so quick to endorse her.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. They don't "know," unless you think Obama and Lynch are lying.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jun 2016

I think they hope there is nothing more of consequence and that there will not be more to come out and I think they trust Hillary.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
20. The FBI and the DOJ don't do repug generated non-scandals.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jun 2016

We don't yet know the final result, but the FBI and DOJ found enough to conduct the criminal investigation.

brush

(53,475 posts)
23. It is repug generated, whether you don't want to say non-scandal or not.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jun 2016

It'll have the same result as Benghazi. There's no ferry forthcoming.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
27. I hope you are right that there will be no charges. But you don't know that and
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

to call the FBI criminal investigation a repug generated non-scandal is laughably naive.

brush

(53,475 posts)
29. Naive, huh? What Democrat, I ask you, origninated that crap?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jun 2016

And said nothing about previous SOSs, and all the White House emails Chaney had deleted, or Jeb Bush's deleted emails?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
32. Are you suggesting Comey and Lynch do the repug's bidding?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jun 2016

Who ordered the State OIG investigation?

brush

(53,475 posts)
44. Come on. You know neither Comey or Lynch initiated the email "scandal".
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jun 2016

And what about the Rove/Chaney destruction of hundreds of thousands of White House emails, or Jeb Bush's deleted gubernatorial emails? If Clinton's handling of emails is so criminal and egregious, why weren't there "criminal" investigations on those "scandals".

Why?

Because repugs ignored their own "scandals" but zeroed in on the handling of Clinton's emails, even though previous repug SOSs Rice and Powell didn't handle their emails on antiquated government servers either.

It's nothing new though. They've been trying to bring down the Clintons since the '90s with Whitewater, Vince Foster, and Benghazi and on and on, Obama too with Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Fast and Furious, and Benghazi as well.

What's new is how many Dems have been carrying the water for them on this one.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
35. So why aren't they investigating Colin Powell?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jun 2016

After all, he used private email too. This whole investigation was launched to satisfy the GOP witch hunters.

Everyone knows it, which is why both Obama and Lynch are unconcerned.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
36. You should read the State OIG report. What HIllary did is different in kind, not simply degree.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jun 2016

You really think the FBI and DOJ are playing lackey to placate the GOP? That's just silly.

Form what is publicly known, the biggest area of risk for HIllary is that federal records in her custody were intentionally destroyed during a federal agency's investigation. The unanswered question is why, by whom and on whose direction.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
37. Bullshit. I think you and your ilk are carrying the GOP's water.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:14 PM
Jun 2016

All in hopes of forwarding your own preferred political agenda.... and candidate.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
38. You are wrong. I know Hillary is the nominee and have long
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jun 2016

since recognized that. And following the reports of independent federal investigators like the state OIG and the FBI does not make me a GOP water carrier. You should apologize for your off base insult.

I've said repeatedly, the last fucking thing I want is for the FBI to recommend charges and hurt our chances at retaining the WH and losing to godamned trump. Step off.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
42. "records..destroyed ..during a federal agency's investigation"? Really!? She turned in emails when
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jun 2016

she ended her service as Secretary of State (2013), as is the normal practice*. It was at that time when she turned in work related emails and deleted personal emails.


* Well, maybe NOT so normal...Actually, Colin Powell used a personal email account for Government business too, but, unlike Clinton, he apparently did not turn over [font size="+1"]any[/font] emails to dept of state when he left the Secretary of State office.


Powell says he doesn't have any of his State emails

[font size="3"]Former Secretary of State Colin Powell says he doesn’t have any emails to turn over to the State Department.[/font]

Appearing on ABC’s “This Week” Sunday, Powell responded to revelations that he used a personal email account, rather than a government one, when he was in charge of the State Department. Questions about his email use arose last week when it was disclosed that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton used a personal email account during her tenure.

“I don’t have any to turn over. I did not keep a cache of them. I did not print them off. I do not have thousands of pages somewhere in my personal files,” Powell said. “A lot of the emails that came out of my personal account went into the State Department system. They were addressed to State Department employees and state.gov domain, but I don’t know if the servers in the State Department captured those or not. “
(more)




Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
52. you claim this is in the report. It should be no problem for you to state the page or provide a link
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

or can you?

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
54. did not see anything there about her "destroying emails during fed investigation". A quote and page
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jun 2016


is needed. No problem to provide, if you actually read that.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
58. Sorry bub. If you don't understand what you read, not my problem.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jun 2016

It doesn't matter. What's done is done.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
60. I can read thank you. & I didn't see anything indicating "destroying records during Fed investigat'n
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jul 2016

You said it's in their - since you can not point it out it's obvious such a charge is not in there. You made a statement you can't back up.

This is standard proceedure for RW McCarthyist campaigns.


Your statement that she "destroyed records during a Federal agency investigation" is bullshit.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
61. this is how the disinformation campaign against HRC by the GOP works. You made a charge that was
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jul 2016

without any basis. Then somebody else who doesn't bother to check the charge out repeats it as if it were actually true. Others, who can't - or won't - think for themselves, upon hearing/reading it being repeated, eventually think since they have heard/read a number of people repeating it, it must then be true.

This is the basis of "the Big Lie" as laid out by a well known German maniac of the 20th Century.

Anytime you can provide proof to back up the charge you made I'll take back my declaration that your charge is BULLSHIT..

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
43. Powell & Rice used personal email accounts 4 gov business, with commercial email service providers
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jun 2016

accounts with commercial email service providers ARE NOT SECURE


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1961352

All large commercial email service providers have hundreds of personnel who labor to protect their systems from hackers and malware. NOTE:TO DO THEIR JOBS THESE CYBER-SECURITY PERSONNEL MUST HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXAMINE ANY AND ALL EMAILS/ATTACHMENTS THERETO ON THEIR SYSTEM. These employees of these private sector companies do NOT HAVE GOVERNMENT SECURITY CLEARANCES. THEREFORE ANY PERSONAL EMAIL ACCOUNTS WITH COMMERCIAL EMAIL SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE NOT SECURE.... even if they have not been hacked by someone outside the companies providing the email service. [font color="red"]Any classified information in those personal email accounts cannot be said, with confidence, to have NOT been compromised[/font].


What we have learned is that there is no evidence that HRC's server was hacked. Unlike personal email accounts with commercial email service providers which are subject to perusal by cyber-security personnel of the companies (do I really need to say it: without government security clearances) providing the email service.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
48. I don't think there is any criminal liability risk with the security of the server.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

Where I see the risk is the intentional destruction of federal records during a federal agency investigation. It seems to me that is the remaining unanswered question and the unanswered risk. The FBI has almost surely gotten to the bottom of that.

Of course it is possible they found something else while digging, too. But let's hope not.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
57. "intentional destruction of federal record during a fed agency investigation" wheredid you get that?
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jun 2016

and provide the quote...


Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
41. "criminal investigation"? thanks for repeating GOP disfuckinginformation.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jun 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-hillary-clinton-e-mail-scandal-that-isnt/2015/08/27/b1cabed8-4cf4-11e5-902f-39e9219e574b_story.html


Potential criminal violations arise when officials knowingly disseminate documents marked as classified to unauthorized officials or on unclassified systems, or otherwise misuse classified materials. That happened in two cases involving former CIA directors that are cited as parallels for the Clinton e-mail issue, but are quite different. John Deutch was pardoned in 2001 for using an unsecured CIA computer at his home to improperly access classified material; he reportedly had been prepared to plead guilty to a misdemeanor. David Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor in April for “knowingly” removing classified documents from authorized locations and retaining them at “unauthorized locations.”[font size="+1"] Neither case fits the fact pattern with the Clinton e-mails[/font].



“It’s common” that people end up using unclassified systems to transmit classified information, said Jeffrey Smith, a former CIA general counsel who’s now a partner at Arnold & Porter, where he often represents defendants suspected of misusing classified information.

“There are always these back channels,” Smith explained. “It’s inevitable, because the classified systems are often cumbersome and lots of people have access to the classified e-mails or cables.” People who need quick guidance about a sensitive matter often pick up the phone or send a message on an open system. They shouldn’t, but they do.

“It’s common knowledge that the classified communications system is impossible and isn’t used,” said one former high-level Justice Department official. Several former prosecutors said flatly that such sloppy, unauthorized practices, although technically violations of law, wouldn’t normally lead to criminal cases.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
50. Referral from Intelligence Community & Dept of State IGs was not a criminal referral
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jun 2016
Statement from the Inspectors General of the Intelligence Community and the Department of State Regarding the Review of Former Secretary Clinton's Emails
[font size="3"].....
IC IG made a referral detailing the potential compromise of classified information to security officials within the Executive Branch. The main purpose of the referral was to notify security officials that classified information may exist on at least one private server and thumb drive that are not in the government's possession. An important distinction is that the IC IG did not make a criminal referral- it was a security referral made for counterintelligence purposes. The IC IG is statutorily required to refer potential compromises of national security information to the appropriate IC security officials.



The Hillary Clinton e-mail ‘scandal’ that isn’t
[font size="3"]
Does Hillary Clinton have a serious legal problem because she may have transmitted classified information on her private e-mail server? After talking with a half-dozen knowledgeable lawyers, I think this “scandal” is overstated. Using the server was a self-inflicted wound by Clinton, but it’s not something a prosecutor would take to court.

“It’s common” that people end up using unclassified systems to transmit classified information, said Jeffrey Smith, a former CIA general counsel who’s now a partner at Arnold & Porter, where he often represents defendants suspected of misusing classified information.

~~
~~

“It’s common knowledge that the classified communications system is impossible and isn’t used,” said one former high-level Justice Department official. Several former prosecutors said flatly that such sloppy, unauthorized practices, although technically violations of law, wouldn’t normally lead to criminal cases.

~~
~~
[/font]
[font size="3"]

Potential criminal violations arise when officials knowingly disseminate documents marked as classified to unauthorized officials or on unclassified systems, or otherwise misuse classified materials. That happened in two cases involving former CIA directors that are cited as parallels for the Clinton e-mail issue, but are quite different. John Deutch was pardoned in 2001 for using an unsecured CIA computer at his home to improperly access classified material; he reportedly had been prepared to plead guilty to a misdemeanor. David Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor in April for “knowingly” removing classified documents from authorized locations and retaining them at “unauthorized locations.” Neither case fits the fact pattern with the Clinton e-mails.[/font]



[font size="3"] As has already been reported the documents declared classified by Dept of State were so declared in the last year. they were not marked Classified when they were received by Clinton. She did not knowingly disseminate documents marked as classified.

The above information notwithstanding, the Rabid Right will never cease campaigning for Hillary Clinton's (political) execution. [/font]





Response to morningfog (Reply #2)

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
6. They know who they are...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

and they should be ashamed for using RWNJ talking points. If you agree.. than Thank you.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
9. I think you are probably conflating the Benghazi witch hunt and the FBI criminal investigation.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jun 2016

The latter is not a RWNJ talking point, but an ongoing risk to Hillary and her former staff.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Both are promoted by right wing idiots.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jun 2016

Once nothing happens with the FBI the same group of fools will then move to the next right wing talking point.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
21. Correct. My point stands.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jun 2016

Once nothing happens with the FBI the right wing loons will move onto something else. They are the ones promoting it. The loons. The FBI is promoting nothing. That isn't their job.

Bet a certain group of idiots won't be calling the FBI "independent" when nothing happens to Clinton. lol.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
22. Yes. The FBI is promoting nothing and reporting on the state of the FBI investigation is
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jun 2016

not promoting it. Reporting on the FBI investigation does not affect the outcome. IF the FBI investigation concludes with no recommendation of charges for anyone, yes, the right wingers will move on to something new.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. Not if, when. They are pathetic and desperate.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:23 PM
Jun 2016

" the right wingers will move on to something new"

Correct, they will be forced to let go of this one just as they have been with their bullshit for decades.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
28. It is if, not when. We just don't know yet.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jun 2016

The State OIG report was bad enough and raised more questions relating to the destruction of federal records. There are a lot of unanswered questions that the FBI will answer. We simply don't know what they have found.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
49. Not that I saw, either.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:18 PM
Jun 2016

From some of the posts here, though, you would have thought every third post here accused Hillary of affirmative wrongdoing related to Benghazi.

Some of us have a casual relationship with objective reality.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
12. Lest ye forget!
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

Oh yeah, there were lots of people here jumping on that bandwagon. Probably what caused a bunch of people to switch over to Clinton. Anyone with half a brain knew this was all Trey Gowdy's attempt to look important. BUt, as it turns out, he was just another republican foolishly squandering taxpayer's money for partisan purposes. Surprise!....NOT!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. March and April witnessed a slough of hatchet-stories about this on DU
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jun 2016

March and April witnessed a slough of hatchet-stories about this on DU. Concern, indignation, worry and pique all under the righteous mask of "analysis."

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
10. Hunt: proven. Witch? I'm pretty certain that describing the presumptive nominee as such
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jun 2016

is a flagrant violation of the TOS, these days.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. An appology won't happen.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:40 PM
Jun 2016

They have moved on to emails. Once proven completely foolish there, they will move on to the next republican talking point. The group you are referencing is not a part of the left.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
25. I noticed they are not a part of the left..
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jun 2016

many of their political views are sorta lopsided between RW and progressive.. The e-mail situation was discovered during this Benghazi thing. People keep saying she installed a private server for the purpose of hiding something. The server was there.. had been there.

tblue37

(64,982 posts)
30. Actually, I have never seen Benghazi touted on DU. The email story gets a lot of
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016

attention here, but Benghazi never seems to have hooked any DU members. It was just so absurd to blame her for any aspect of Benghazi that only Republicans ever took that particular basic.

CaptainSensible

(35 posts)
51. Three card Monty, conservative Congress and Senate and eight years with Odumbo"
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

Are you referring to the great Bernie offensive when saying "many of you humped this story and joined Republicans?"

I believe the enormous bubble filled with anti-Clinton rhetoric is grossly attributable to unhinged media, dominant talk show punditry and the tsunami-esque wave of animosity toward our current POTUS, simply because of his skin color. The inertia created by the toxic, partisan obstinance against practically every legislative effort our POTUS attempted to "run up the pole."

Of course this established a lockstep regimen that effectively dismissed the entire country, perhaps holding the country hostage to the treasonous, disgusting, partisan game-playing and pouty manipulation maintained by the Republican party.

I wonder how many soldiers lost their lives as a result of the eight years the Republican party has presided over this embarrassing chapter in history. It's not difficult to determine how many lives were lost due to foolish circumstances that left an assault weapon in the hands of the wrong person.

(added at 7:20 EST)
The Benghazi kool-ade party was perpetuated by Republican operatives intended to another her in partisan mechanations with her POTUS on the horizon.

Here is a quote from an Army Major fired by Trey Gowty for "speaking out of turn;"

"Maj. Bradley Podliska, an intelligence officer in the Air Force Reserve who describes himself as a conservative Republican, told CNN that the committee trained its sights almost exclusively on Clinton after the revelation last March that she used a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state. That new focus flipped a broad-based probe of the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on September 11, 2012, into what Podliska described as “a partisan investigation.”

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
59. Around 13 USA embassy and consulates attacked most w/casualties during BushW but no investigations!
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jun 2016

Some more than once!

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