New PPP poll on Rachel: Clinton: 45% Trump: 41%

[tallahasseedem]

These numbers seem a bit weird, no?

Edited to add clarifications found by Doctor Jack:

Clinton: 45
Trump: 41

A little bit better, but wish it were more!

[metroins]

1. Not like national polls ever mattered

I don't know why we do them.

[tallahasseedem]

4. That's what I was thinking too...

especially given all of the other polls and the fact that the FOX poll just released has her 6% ahead.

I remember this crap from 2012. Keep the polls close = cash.

Not buying it.

[PoliticAverse]

8. Close polls are good for TV shows. And of course we don't elect Presidents by popular vote. n/t

[lancer78]

2. Does it include

third party candidates? Those were a lot tighter.

[tallahasseedem]

5. If they included third party, she went up by 2 - 3, I believe.

Still too close for comfortable.

[Doctor Jack]

10. Nope, +4 with and without 3rd parties

Her numbers drop from 48% to 45% and his numbers drop from 44% to 41% when 3rd parties are added

[tallahasseedem]

11. Even better!

[Doctor Jack]

3. That is the generic congressional vote

Clinton is up by 4 in PPP's latest poll, 45% to 41%. Despite being a democratic polling company, she has never done well in their polls.

[tallahasseedem]

6. Ahhh yes, thank you for the clarification.

I'm pretty sure she said Presidential, but even if congressional...still too close!

[HumanityExperiment]

7. link to poll?

n/t

[tallahasseedem]

9. I'm sorry, I wish I had one...

it was breaking news at the beginning of her show. It should be out soon though.

[Doctor Jack]

12. Searching around on the internet, people are saying she is citing the wrong poll from PPP

Maybe a bit of fact checking is needed by Maddow

[tallahasseedem]

13. Thank you for that...

my heart dropped when she reported it. It just seemed to contradict everything we have seen until now.

[Metric System]

17. Yep. Even PPP tweeted that it was the wrong numbers.

[Doctor Jack]

18. I wonder if she will correct herself

There was a time where I would be certain that she would but I have lost a lot of faith her in the last few years. She seems to worship to the corporate media gods and the money they rain down on true believers.

[Doctor Jack]

14. Link

Scroll down slightly

https://twitter.com/ppppolls?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[tallahasseedem]

15. Yep, they definitely reported the wrong numbers...

Great sleuthing Doctor Jack!

[Doctor Jack]

16. Go have a drink and enjoy your night

[LenaBaby61]

19. Quinnipiac and PPP polling....

Have IMHO become the outlier of pollsters the last few election cycles. I remember when Quinnipiac used to be considered the gold standard of pollsters. That's no longer the case. Additionally, I find it hard to take PPP seriously when they ask questions in the vein of "Would you rather have a meteorite (or whatever it was supposed to be hitting the earth) hit the earth or vote for Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump?" Yeah, I got no use for such stupid questions in a poll

I'd be giving a poll the "side-eye" even if they had the candidate I was favoring WAY Y ahead in it's polling.