# 2016 Postmortem

Related: About this forum# It would appear that Clinton has won the California primary

As of the latest updates:

Clinton - 2,685,515

Sanders - 2,281,273

Unprocessed ballots - 367,556

While we don't know the final spread yet, it is now mathematically impossible for Sanders to win.

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#### still_one

(90,587 posts)every primary Hillary won was fraudulent

#### Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)And this whole thread is about "refighting the primaries".

Hillary is still firmly winning both counties.

LA: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/county/los-angeles/

SF: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/county/san-francisco/

#### SidDithers

(44,228 posts)Clinton won both SF and LA counties.

Sid

#### LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)Clinton leads in LA county by 142,132 votes, with only 62,110 ballots remaining to be counted.

Clinton leads in SF county by 16,765 votes, with all ballots counted.

How can it be "refighting the primaries" when it is just a report on the ongoing vote tally?

#### still_one

(90,587 posts)video that was posted a few days ago, which indicated something that actually hadn't occurred.

To your second point, no question about it, the sparing, and "reliving the primaries", is still occurring.

#### MineralMan

(145,871 posts)votes are in Los Angeles County and will probably reflect Hillary's win in that county already.

Finally, the primaries are truly over. The percentages changed very little, really.

#### RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)It took this long to count the votes? And they are not done yet? WTF?

#### LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)and they've been counting over 100,000 of them per day.

What do you want them to do, wave a magic wand?

#### politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)observers from each major party as well.

#### grossproffit

(5,591 posts)You'd be surprised by how many people submit absentee ballots and also vote on election day.

#### SidDithers

(44,228 posts)in that video told something different!

Sid

#### Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)#### MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)#### Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)Hmmm?

#### Hortensis

(58,785 posts)#### Her Sister

(6,444 posts)#### Cha

(291,624 posts)#### Her Sister

(6,444 posts)Difference b/w HRC&BS is 390,229 votes.

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/

http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2016-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf

As of 7/1/2016 6:21 p.m **&** 4:55 p.m respectively. Maybe less unprocessed?

#### NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)doesn't stay at the same number regardless, so there's that. Not that it matters one way or the other, but your math isn't truly accurate.

#### Retrograde

(9,809 posts)The OP is talking about additional votes for Sanders or Clinton (or Johnson or Kasich or Stein or whomever), not about flipping already counted votes. These are mainly provisional ballots and mail-in ballots, which require individual inspection.

Actually, per the Secretary of State's website a lot of those may already have been processed but certain counties (yeah, I'm looking at you, Humboldt) haven't updated their results in some time. The election isn't expected to be certified until mid-July.

Why keep counting when the Democratic and Republican slates already have a clear winner? Well, as of today, the top two candidates on the American Independent slate are separated by about 800 votes. Then there are all the other races on the June ballot. And California makes a point of counting all the valid votes.

#### LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)increased their totals; however, there are too few ballots left to be counted for Sanders to overtake Clinton and win California. There was nothing wrong with my math.

What's more, the remaining ballots are not just for the Democratic primary, but also the Republican, and state races, so not only could Sanders not win if he got every single remaining vote, but he can't even **get** every single remaining vote.