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EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:44 PM Jun 2016

BREAKING: Donald Trump Campaign Floored By Launch Of Immediate FEC Investigation (DETAILS)

Donald Trump has been hit with a complaint filed with the Federal Election Commission over his requests for campaign contributions from foreign nationals, including individuals in the United Kingdom, Iceland, and Australia.

The complaint was filed by two campaign watchdog groups, the Campaign Legal Center and Democracy 21.

The Deputy Executive Director of the Campaign Legal Center, Paul S. Ryan, said that Trump “should have known better” when it comes to his across-the-seas solicitations.

In the case of the UK, the requests for money became so extreme that the Parliament has moved to officially block the Trump campaign from access to its members.

In the case of Iceland, leaders said the letter sent to them via email from the Trump campaign left them “speechless.”

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/29/breaking-donald-trump-campaign-floored-by-launch-of-immediate-fec-investigation-details/

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BREAKING: Donald Trump Campaign Floored By Launch Of Immediate FEC Investigation (DETAILS) (Original Post) EricMaundry Jun 2016 OP
Good, he should also disclose the payback from contributions too in his June FEC filings uponit7771 Jun 2016 #1
Not only is dementia don a moron Motley13 Jun 2016 #2
This whole thing seems exagerated to me Renew Deal Jun 2016 #3
It's still soliciting foreign nationals to contribute WhiteTara Jun 2016 #6
Was the content of the emails somehow customized to foreign legislators? jberryhill Jun 2016 #9
Rachal Maddow discussed it on her show last evening. The solicitations were directed to politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #17
Is there an example? jberryhill Jun 2016 #21
I believe it was sent to a specific member of Parliament. I know it was a woman and she responded politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #25
A mass email is not sent to "a specific member" jberryhill Jun 2016 #27
This is very clear and prohibited Cosmocat Jun 2016 #11
As a Sanders supporter that remembers the lies David Brock peddled... GeorgiaPeanuts Jun 2016 #4
+1000 from another Georgian. rateyes Jun 2016 #5
They were not lies Renew Deal Jun 2016 #7
They were not lies. You can find all the info at the FEC website. leftofcool Jun 2016 #8
Yes, see my post below with FEC page 1/15 Her Sister Jun 2016 #13
Brock is no Democrat, he's an opportunist demwing Jun 2016 #10
Names: A Whopping 674 Foreign Nationals Illegally Donated to Bernie Sanders in March 2016 Her Sister Jun 2016 #12
No reply Andy823 Jun 2016 #16
Were those donations... tonedevil Jun 2016 #22
You can study that FEC filing yourself if you'd like! Her Sister Jun 2016 #23
The reason you know about... tonedevil Jun 2016 #24
That's not what I was answering. Stop your rudeness in your tracks in 3, 2 ! Her Sister Jun 2016 #26
Several British politicians have reported receiving fundraising emails KingFlorez Jun 2016 #20
And the reason why we know... jberryhill Jun 2016 #30
Hmmm....welllll Rex Jun 2016 #14
NRFPT randome Jun 2016 #15
So according to him, he will now be answereable to foreign nationals shaping US policy Sheepshank Jun 2016 #18
The ultimate fool -- he know not, and knows not that he knows not. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 2016 #19
Most likely, his sons are under The Donald's thumb and were told to do this PJMcK Jun 2016 #28
Crooked Crooked Donald Zambero Jun 2016 #29

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
3. This whole thing seems exagerated to me
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jun 2016

From what I understand, they were basically spamming people. It was not a direct request from a person in the campaign to a foreign entity. It was junk mail

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
6. It's still soliciting foreign nationals to contribute
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jun 2016

to his campaign. It may have been poorly done, but it was still done.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. Was the content of the emails somehow customized to foreign legislators?
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jun 2016

I have a feeling someone had some fun with the "put me on your mailing list" feature of the Trump campaign website.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
17. Rachal Maddow discussed it on her show last evening. The solicitations were directed to
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016

specific persons.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. Is there an example?
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jun 2016

I don't know what you mean by "specific persons". Yes, it was sent to those email addresses, and yes, it probably included "Dear (name)".

What I am asking is whether there was something in the text of the email itself which suggested it was intended to be sent to a foreign legislator, as opposed to having been sent to a name and address submitted via web form to the Trump website by a prankster.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
25. I believe it was sent to a specific member of Parliament. I know it was a woman and she responded
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jun 2016

with a snarky response. I believe she had copies of at least two different letters. That's all I can recall. But you can probably check it out on the MSNBC website under Rachal's show. I believe it was signed by Donald Trump Jr. Rachal stated that most people who'd seen the letters didn't think that the Trumps could be that stupid. They theorized that either it was someone pranking the Donald or that Donald and Company were making use of someone's email listing that they had got a hold of, and had no bothered to go through it and verify the names on it before dumping it into the hopper (as she described it). I thought it was likely the latter because I know that people charge money for the use of mailing lists on a per name basis, and I know that the Donald is cheap and doesn't want to spend any of HIS money and since we know his campaign funds are low, it didn't seem beyond reality that he may have "borrowed" or "come by" a mailing list by some nefarious means and used it without scrubbing it for foreign nationals. They then sent out a lot of emails to the people on the list without checking first.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. A mass email is not sent to "a specific member"
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jun 2016

There are like ten countries whose legislators report receiving "an email". I don't know what you mean by "it was sent to a specific member". If you have a web form where people can input names and email addresses in order to get on a mailing list, then emails are going to go to whatever names and email addresses someone inputs to the website.

What I'm trying to find out is whether the content of the email itself suggested that it was knowingly sent to a member of a foreign legislature. That would be language like, "As a member of the Icelandic Parliament, we know you rely on a strong US..." or something to that effect.

If it was the same email that ANYONE gets, then it seems to be unlikely that Donald Trump Jr. was off on his own collecting email addresses of foreign legislators, but sound exactly like a project that would be taken on by someone having some fun.

Cosmocat

(15,424 posts)
11. This is very clear and prohibited
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jun 2016

And any D who solicited campaign funds from foreign government officials, in any form would be evicerated.

That said, its been reported his idiot son has personally contacted at least one of these people.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
4. As a Sanders supporter that remembers the lies David Brock peddled...
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

with regards to alleged FEC violations of the Sanders campaign, I am going to withhold judgement until this progresses further. David Brock has been and always will be a slimeball in my eyes regardless if he is now a Dem.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
10. Brock is no Democrat, he's an opportunist
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jun 2016

Just because the Dems lured Brock away, doesn't mean he's loyal. Remember - that which can be stolen by you, can also be stolen from you.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
12. Names: A Whopping 674 Foreign Nationals Illegally Donated to Bernie Sanders in March 2016
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jun 2016
A Whopping 674 Foreign Nationals Illegally Donated to Bernie Sanders in March 2016
Posted on June 18, 2016 by Grace Laine
https://gobling.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/a-whopping-674-foreign-nationals-illegally-donated-to-bernie-sanders-in-march-2016/


http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/521/201606149017580521/201606149017580521.pdf

Page 1 of 15

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05402 PO Box 905 PAGE 1 / 15 Burlington
Form 999 - Part VII
The Committee did not receive confirmation of citizenship or residence status and therefore issued refunds earlier this
month to the following donors. These refunds will be reflected in the Committee?s June Monthly Report.
Abovyan,Minas
Albrecht,John
Alioto,Anthony
Allen,Gwendolyn
Allen,John
Allin,Drusilla
Arbel,Omer
Aybar,Rodrigo
Azmayesh-Fard,Seyed
Barber,Alexander
Barkley,Michael
Barrett,Joan
Beauchesne,Ryan
Beaudin,Adam
Bennett,Robert
Bergmann,Barbara
Berland,Jody
Bidtnes,Imre
Bjornsson,Edvard
Blaison,Julia
Bloom,Peter
bodin,baltsar
Booth di GiovanniHeather
Braun,Lin
Brink,Jason
Broderick,Eli
Brown,Richard
Browne,Craig
Bucholz,Laurel
Buck,Douglas
Burleigh,Tyler
Carter,Luke
Carter,Michael
Cemper,Ron
Champagne,Jean-Marc
Claster,William
Claude,Xavier
Clausen,Malte
Cohen,Mark
Cooper,Daniel
Cordero Resperger,Lourdes
Cornland,Deborah
Costanza,Michael
Crandall,Mark
Crichton,Michael
Crispin,Malinda
06/


http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/521/201606149017580521/201606149017580521.pdf
 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
22. Were those donations...
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

solicited by Senator Sanders campaign? Is that a list of donations returned by Senator Sanders campaign as required by the FEC? Do you think this is in any way comparable to the violations alleged to have been committed by the Donald Trump campaign?

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
23. You can study that FEC filing yourself if you'd like!
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

Go, go on...

BTW I was answering the posts above. Context context...

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
24. The reason you know about...
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jun 2016

those 674 foreign donations is Senator Sanders campaign reported them. I did read the FEC filling that's how I knew you were being deceptive.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
26. That's not what I was answering. Stop your rudeness in your tracks in 3, 2 !
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jun 2016

Of course it's obvious I posted the freaking FEC page with FEC freaking link and invited you to look at the freaking FEC page/link yourself.

Geeeeessh!

Please shooo shooo !

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
20. Several British politicians have reported receiving fundraising emails
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jun 2016

Trump is no victim of David Brock.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. And the reason why we know...
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jun 2016

...that this was intentionally done by the Trump campaign instead of someone using the "put me on your list" form at the Trump website is, what?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
18. So according to him, he will now be answereable to foreign nationals shaping US policy
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016

I'm hoping that Trump can explain how that makes American Great Again.

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
28. Most likely, his sons are under The Donald's thumb and were told to do this
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jun 2016

I doubt that a control freak like Donald Trump would give much freedom to his kids to run his businesses and campaign. He micro-manages everything so I'm fairly certain that he directed that these requests be sent. Actually, I really don't care because they wouldn't be effective. As we've seen from the responses, Mr. Trump has just made an ass of himself on the world stage. His kids must be so proud.

In the linked article is this gem: "The Deputy Executive Director of the Campaign Legal Center, Paul S. Ryan." He's the official looking into Mr. Trump's solicitations. I feel badly for the guy to be stuck with that name.

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
29. Crooked Crooked Donald
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jun 2016

"Make America great again, by way of illegal foreign campaign solicitations".

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