Attacks on Bernie are just as much "refighting the primary" as attacks on HRC.

[Ken Burch]

BOTH need to stop.

It's over already.

[Duckhunter935]

1. Yep very disappointed they are being allowed

[LongtimeAZDem]

12. I respect your opinion; do you honestly believe that this

is an example of "refighting the primaries"?

It would appear that Clinton has won the California primary

The topic starter here claims it is; I disagree.

[Duckhunter935]

14. It's not just a single post

There have been many and it is amazing they are being allowed to stand even after Skinner's guidance.

[LongtimeAZDem]

15. But that is where I was accused,

so, I am asking for an objective assessment. Did my thread constitute "refighting the primaries", in your opinion?

[Duckhunter935]

18. I do not see the issue

But I did not see a link to a single post in the OP either.

[Hortensis]

44. Bernie is a legitimate actor affecting the dynamics

of the process right now. It is appropriate to discuss his actions.

I just wish the discussion were more thoughtful and principled and less hostile. He has a right to campaign, just as Ralph Nader had a right to. Motivations, judgment, responsibility, and morality can be questioned, but the right itself exists independent of any possible effect on others.

[JaneyVee]

2. Has Bernie conceded yet?

No. And he spends a lot of precious time still attacking the Democratic Party.

[Mika]

5. Has Hil attained enough elected delegates yet? No. Has the Dem party voted at the convention yet? No

I see the Dem party platform committee stiff-arming the Bernie committee member's items.
Stupid move, imo, to alienate such a large percentage of Dem voters.

[ciaobaby]

9. you got that right !!!!!

[LongtimeAZDem]

10. Clinton has attained enough delegates in exactly the way Obama did when Sanders endorsed him in 2008

"But Sanders struck a different tone in 2008, when he told his hometown newspaper, the Burlington Free Press in Vermont, that he planned to “play a very active role” in supporting Obama.

“I will do everything I can to see that he is elected president,” he said at the time.

That interview was published on June 5, 2008, two days after the last Democratic contests but two days before Clinton suspended her campaign.

The story also noted that “Sanders said he held off supporting either of the Democrats because he has made it a custom not to support any Democrat for the presidential nomination until the party had chosen its nominee.”

At that point, however, Obama had 1,766.5 pledged delegates and Clinton had 1,639.5, according to data from RealClearPolitics. In 2008, 2,118 total delegates were required to secure the nomination. "

Sanders takes different position on superdelegates than he did in 2008

[bettyellen]

20. It's a striking difference in attitude that I find difficult to grok...,

[JaneyVee]

13. LOL.

[stonecutter357]

34. I know who will not be attaining enough elected delegates.

[onenote]

56. Bernie has acknowledged Clinton won the nomination

Why can't you?

The convention vote is a formality.

And while Bernie is free to pursue his larger non-electoral goals through whatever strategy he chooses, his decisions in that regard, insofar as the are viewed as impacting efforts to pull together to elect Clinton and defeat Trump either positively or negatively are fair subjects for praise or criticism, imo.

[NurseJackie]

26. IMO: He's acting like a hostile adversary instead of an ally, partner or friend.

Of course he will be "attacked" in kind. He and his active supporters can't have it both ways.

[BlueCaliDem]

41. TRUTH! Inconvenient truth, sure, but TRUTH nevertheless. Thanks for pointing it out, NJ!

[villager]

52. translation: "I'm not sticking to the new rules because I have an excuse!!!" nt

[workinclasszero]

53. Yup, Bernie is the one still fighting the primary

+100

[RobertEarl]

3. Indeed

Very interesting how it's going.

[SaschaHM]

4. Saying that Hillary won a state due to the remaining votes...

is not "refighting the primary" nor is it an attack on Bernie. And as someone who has had a post hidden and then reinstated on appeal, neither is harshly critiquing Bernie's current concession tour and his interviews or his contributions to the party.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

6. It is with some posts stepping way over the line...

Being downright nasty and rude to Bernie who is in fact a democrat. In fact the specific rule even says eg Bernie

[LongtimeAZDem]

11. +1 Exactly

I posted the same thing in the California results thread.

[OnDoutside]

7. Then stop creating threads that end up feeding that narrative.

[comradebillyboy]

8. And this post is just more stirring the pot isn't it?

[Amimnoch]

16. I couldn't agree more.

Either is completely counterproductive at this point.

[riderinthestorm]

17. Yup. There's so many it's not worth alerting anymore nt

[SoLeftIAmRight]

21. i have stop alerting on them - they all seem to stay

I have not seen a single flame bait post removed since the "new" DU

[lumberjack_jeff]

22. They stay because the 80% of DU that last month supported Sanders

Have left the building.

Clinton supporters seem remarkably sanguine about the merits of other democrats voting for her. It feels a lot more like a clique than a campaign.

[riderinthestorm]

23. Me neither. Bernie is sexist, petulant, throwing tantrums

Every single bad trope including the worst anti-Semitic ones are ok.

[CobaltBlue]

24. Ken Burch—There are at least three such thread topics from the same forum member since July 1.

[fun n serious]

25. Bernie says it's not over.

So he and his supporters will NOT go un challenged.

[seabeyond]

27. When Sanders quits attacking Dems, we will quit calling him out.

[Ken Burch]

37. He isn't attacking Dems. He's fighting for a progressive platform.

There's nothing TO call out.

[seabeyond]

40. Sanders is attacking Dems. He owns democratic policy as his. He accuses anyone

Who doesn't support him as establishment.

Yes, we Democrats who voted for another Democrat will call it out.

[NCTraveler]

28. Been over for a long time.

[riversedge]

29. NO, Bernie is still making news and campaigning. He refuses to concede. His involvement

in the Democratic Party platform is national news and deserves to be monitored, critiqued etc.

[randome]

30. Alan Grayson was a legitimate topic on DU. So is Sanders. So is Elizabeth Warren. So is...

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font][hr]

[SidDithers]

31. "It's over already."...

Tell that to Bernie.

Sid

[PowerToThePeople]

32. At least I feel validated

in the choice I made and my future choices.

I can thank them for not even remotely getting me to question those choices.

[stonecutter357]

33. no one is Attacking Bernie .

[Kentonio]

46. Oh really? The poster that called him 'obnoxious' wasn't attacking him I suppose?

Let's be clear about this, us coming together behind Hillary is dependent on some mutual respect. If you guys want to act like victorious conquerors proudly accepting a defeated rivals surrender, then we're going to have serious problems.

[stonecutter357]

47. Why does Bernie keep attacking Democrats?

[Kentonio]

48. He's not attacking Democrats

He's trying to ensure the Democratic platform helps as many of his supporters as possible, in the process greatly increasing the likelihood they'll come out and vote. He's helping us win.

[Adrahil]

35. I am called to juries quite a bit....

Not seeing many attackes on Bernie there, but when I do, I vote to hide them. And at least the ones I'm seeing get alerted are getting hidden. Make sure they are getting alerted.

[Ken Burch]

38. I'm glad for what you are doing there. n/t.

[Betty Karlson]

36. Shame on double standards.

[MaggieD]

39. Why does Bernie keep attacking Democrats?

He certainly IS doing that. And his supporters are as well.

As for "it's over already" perhaps you should tell that to Bernie. He keeps saying it isn't and we taxpayers are paying $40K per day in SS protection to primarily feed his ego or something.

[Ken Burch]

43. He isn't attacking anyone. He's just fighting for his principles.

It's enough that he says he'll vote for HRC and that he'll endorse at the convention.

He doesn't need to unconditionally surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri.

[Tarc]

42. When Bernie finally drops his arrogance and officially concedes, then it's over

[AgingAmerican]

50. Not according to DU management

A rewritten TOS has been posted reflecting same.

[Blue_Tires]

45. Asking why Sanders hasn't yet endorsed Clinton isn't an attack

it's a legit question...

[Snotcicles]

49. One must soil an others socks, so theirs appear less dingy. nt

[bluedye33139]

51. Oh, I've been deleted for my Bernie insults

I've had a post deleted because of its negativity toward Sanders. The mods are trying to be fair.

[Bluenorthwest]

57. There are no mods. So your perception is probably not exactly accurate.

nt

[bluedye33139]

58. Admin

I'm not going to forward you the email that the site sent me when it deleted the post. Maybe we can quibble about what word to use for the administrators who moderated forum. Otherwise, what a wonderfully polite and constructive post you aimed at me. Thank you very much. Your kindness and goodness will live in my memory always, whoever you are.

[elleng]

54. I agree,

and I thought they WOULD stop.

[SheenaR]

55. +1