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Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:52 PM Jun 2016

The math is with Hillary: She’s surging in the polls — and many Republicans are in denial

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/30/the_math_is_with_hillary_she_surging_in_the_polls_and_many_republicans_are_in_denial/

Thursday, Jun 30, 2016 05:59 AM EDT
Gary Legum

On Wednesday, Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com released his first general election forecast, which shows Hillary Clinton with an 80 percent chance of beating Donald Trump. If you like numbers and you know Silver’s track record in presidential elections, this should be something of a relief.

Silver’s model gives Trump a 19 percent chance of winning the election. Right now he has Clinton taking the popular vote by seven points and absolutely crushing Trump in the Electoral College, 353 to 184. Considering that the polarized electorate means each candidate is starting out with a floor of probably 50 million or so votes, these numbers indicate Trump is performing no better against Clinton than a rock covered in orange spray paint would. The GOP’s only chance might be to toss him overboard at the convention and nominate an inanimate carbon rod.

If nothing else, the reduction of this election to the numbers for each candidate reminds us that, for all the sturm und drang up to this point, this election is, like every other presidential election, a fight between two candidates and two competing visions. (As much as Trump can be said to have any vision anyway.) For anyone exhausted by the screaming and unpleasantness of this Democratic primary campaign, it is nice to now catch our breath beneath the solid foundation of math before the conventions and the official general election kick-off sprays us all with its stink. Because Trump’s ego isn’t going to take losing very well. And if the NRA’s new anti-Clinton ad is any indication, neither are the lunatics who have thrown their support behind him.
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The math is with Hillary: She’s surging in the polls — and many Republicans are in denial (Original Post) Alfresco Jun 2016 OP
Hopefully, the GOP will stay in denial. eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #1
Oh, you cannot believe how much his supporters are denial HockeyMom Jun 2016 #2
So, what else is new? PJMcK Jun 2016 #3
Hi itsrobert Jun 2016 #4
Howdy Alfresco Jun 2016 #5
That's what I thought, then someone posted a Rasmussen poll ailsagirl Jun 2016 #6
Is the primary over? MoonRiver Jun 2016 #7
No more primaries are scheduled, now Hilary is presumptive nominee and has Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #8
That's what I, and every other sentient human being, thought! MoonRiver Jun 2016 #11
When did Salon begin allowing positive articles about Hillary? comradebillyboy Jun 2016 #9
Posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #10
Republicans in denial is pretty much standard for them Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #12
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2016 #13
Actually, one of them is in Denali nt Xipe Totec Jul 2016 #14
We seem to be in a slight downward trend in the ebb and flow of the polls Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #15
FIGHT FOR DOWN BALLOT!! We need to choke the horrid culture that has infested the GOP uponit7771 Jul 2016 #16
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
2. Oh, you cannot believe how much his supporters are denial
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:04 PM
Jun 2016

When they are bragging that New York (his Home State), and New Jersey (Christie VP) are in the bag, that isn't just denial. That is certifiable.

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
3. So, what else is new?
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jun 2016

Republicans don't do facts.

I love this line: "...these numbers indicate Trump is performing no better against Clinton than a rock covered in orange spray paint would."

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. No more primaries are scheduled, now Hilary is presumptive nominee and has
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jun 2016

More than enough delegates to be the nominee on the first vote of the convention.

comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
9. When did Salon begin allowing positive articles about Hillary?
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jun 2016

They have been as hostile to her as any right wing blog I've seen this year.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
12. Republicans in denial is pretty much standard for them
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 09:55 PM
Jun 2016

It's when they have rare and fleeting moments of sanity that warrants attention. Not that that happens very often.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
15. We seem to be in a slight downward trend in the ebb and flow of the polls
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 11:46 PM
Jul 2016

And the worry trolls and handwringers will be out in force in the coming days. But that always seems to be the trend in early July. Not much is happening, people are planning their 4th of July vacations, and politics isn't in the front of their minds. But to some, it will be a sign that the world is over, we are all doomed, the apocalypse is here, etc etc etc. Try not to let them ruin your weekend too much.

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