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But, This is a bernie thread......? Sivart Jul 2016 #1
Clearly the OP is cool with Bernie Bashing threads, just nothing positive about Bernie. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #6
Amazing, right? Hillary supporters have been doing one anti-Bernie OP after another. merrily Jul 2016 #16
This! NWCorona Jul 2016 #17
And heeeeere's another one. MineralMan Jul 2016 #2
So you want Bernie to be irrelevant? His viewpoint represents MILLIONS jonno99 Jul 2016 #3
In a nation of nearly 400 million registered voters fun n serious Jul 2016 #5
Neither is 16 then... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #7
Hillary got mpore votes in 08 than Bernie did in 16.. fun n serious Jul 2016 #8
Doesn't matter... TCJ70 Jul 2016 #10
Obama won caucus states, tho. Which revolution was Hillary advocating in 2008? Or now? merrily Jul 2016 #15
Math fail. How many votes did HRC get - out of 400 Million? jonno99 Jul 2016 #11
There are not even 400 million Americans, much less registered voters. Here are some facts: Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #12
there aren't 400 million registered voters. the entire US population is barely over 300 million. Exilednight Jul 2016 #14
Which nation has 400 million registered voters? panader0 Jul 2016 #22
I don't understand this train of thought. stopbush Jul 2016 #18
So? The Pope represents millions of citizens, too... TreasonousBastard Jul 2016 #20
Plus jehop61 Jul 2016 #4
Stop fighting the primary. Bernie is doing what he can to help the party. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #9
Use the DU Auto-trash by Keyword function. In_The_Wind Jul 2016 #13
The facat that the rules at DU have been so slanted that Clinton supporters now feel.... Sivart Jul 2016 #19
That's an utter crock DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #21
This OP openly calls for Sanders irrelevancy..... Sivart Jul 2016 #23
Sanders LOST DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #24
No one has won or lost. n/t Melissa G Jul 2016 #26
He has lost, but the process is not over......and, of course, you know this. Sivart Jul 2016 #27
+1 n/t Melissa G Jul 2016 #25
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. Clearly the OP is cool with Bernie Bashing threads, just nothing positive about Bernie.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jul 2016

'Rules are for thee, never for me' says the OP.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
16. Amazing, right? Hillary supporters have been doing one anti-Bernie OP after another.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jul 2016

Yet, we're not supposed to re-litigate the primary.

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
2. And heeeeere's another one.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jul 2016

Bernie is still news. It's not unreasonable that news is posted and discussed here on DU, I think. As long as he's making news, we'll be talking about it.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
3. So you want Bernie to be irrelevant? His viewpoint represents MILLIONS
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jul 2016

of citizens. Should they be irrelevant too?

No. Bernie's voice needs to be heard. IMO - Both he and Hillary should be working TOGETHER the solve the issues we are facing. And to the extent he is marginalized, the people whose views he represents are also marginalized.

To beat trump it will take ALL of us. Simply declaring "you lost - get over it" is a marginalizing tactic, and will not win us the election.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
8. Hillary got mpore votes in 08 than Bernie did in 16..
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jul 2016

No one is talking about her revolution

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. There are not even 400 million Americans, much less registered voters. Here are some facts:
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:12 AM
Jul 2016

Total number of Americans eligible to vote 218,959,000

Total number of Americans registered to vote 146,311,000

So you are off by about 250 million registered voters. The rest of your thoughts here are similarly unfounded in facts.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
14. there aren't 400 million registered voters. the entire US population is barely over 300 million.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:15 AM
Jul 2016

Those 13 million actually represent about 10% of people who actually vote.

stopbush

(24,808 posts)
18. I don't understand this train of thought.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jul 2016

People run for office across the country every year, amass millions of votes doing so and still lose. I have never heard any losing candidate assert that they need to be listened to and their policies need to be adopted because millions of people voted for them.

We live in a country of MAJORITY rule. The majority - the vast majority - of Ds have chosen Hillary Clinton as their nominee. I don't see any other losing presidential candidate in either party demanding that their positions need to be reflected in the party platform because "millions of people voted for me."

Sorry, but this argument is too convenient by half. It's just another example of Sen Sanders moving the goalposts to benefit him and no one else. He did it throughout the campaign when it came to how the votes should be counted, starting with the declaration that the winner should be determined solely by who wins the popular vote, to declaring that the pledged delegate count should hold more weight than the supers. Of course, once Hillary amassed a vast majority of the popular vote, the pledged delegates, the super delegates, the number of states and territories won and won by any other metric you might choose, Sanders asserted that the super delegates should ignore everything he said before and vote for him because he was "more electable" than Hillary.

Honestly, there is no reason on Earth that the D party or Hillary Clinton needs to listen to Sen Sanders and adopt any of his policies, if for no other reason than the vast majority of Ds who votes in the primaries REJECTED Sanders' policies and voted for Hillary's policies. He got millions of votes? So what? She got more.

You may as well assert that Hillary needs to adopt some of Trump's policies because he got millions more votes than Sanders. Shouldn't the voices of those millions of Americans who voted for Trump also be reflected in Hillary's platform?

Seems to me you are continuing to fight the primaries, which are over.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
20. So? The Pope represents millions of citizens, too...
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:25 AM
Jul 2016

as does (alas) Trump.

It's a big country.

Continue with his better ideas, but Bernie himself is now largely as irrelevant as he was in the Senate.

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
4. Plus
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jul 2016

Some are attempting to get around D U rules by posting negative media stories about the Clintons. Tired of alerting. I can watch Faux News if I wanted to see them.

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
9. Stop fighting the primary. Bernie is doing what he can to help the party.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:10 AM
Jul 2016


And he is relevant.
 

Sivart

(325 posts)
19. The facat that the rules at DU have been so slanted that Clinton supporters now feel....
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jul 2016

The fact that the rules at DU have been so slanted in favor of Clinton that Clinton supporters now feel 100 percent comfortable declaring that there are too many threads about stuff they don't like speaks volumes about the legitimacy of any discussions that take place here now.



DemonGoddess

(5,127 posts)
21. That's an utter crock
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jul 2016

and you KNOW it. There are so many "concern troll" threads to dismiss and tear down the presumptive nominee it's not even funny.

Instead of OPENLY still "fighting the primary", it's being done more subtly, and being allowed to stand. So, while there is certainly more of an air of civility, on the face of it, really not so much.

 

Sivart

(325 posts)
23. This OP openly calls for Sanders irrelevancy.....
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jul 2016

In case you hadn't read it.

Sanders is still a candidate for the Democratic Nomination for president, in case you were unaware.



 

Sivart

(325 posts)
27. He has lost, but the process is not over......and, of course, you know this.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:37 AM
Jul 2016

He is still considered a candidate. The process has not come to completion and Sanders has not suspended or dropped out.

This is where we get the term - PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE. Have you heard this term used before? Did you ever realize its purpose?



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