2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSivart
(325 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)'Rules are for thee, never for me' says the OP.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Yet, we're not supposed to re-litigate the primary.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)MineralMan
(151,259 posts)Bernie is still news. It's not unreasonable that news is posted and discussed here on DU, I think. As long as he's making news, we'll be talking about it.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)of citizens. Should they be irrelevant too?
No. Bernie's voice needs to be heard. IMO - Both he and Hillary should be working TOGETHER the solve the issues we are facing. And to the extent he is marginalized, the people whose views he represents are also marginalized.
To beat trump it will take ALL of us. Simply declaring "you lost - get over it" is a marginalizing tactic, and will not win us the election.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)13 milliion is not much.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...why don't we just not talk about anything?
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)No one is talking about her revolution
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...16 million out of 400 million isn't that much.
merrily
(45,251 posts)jonno99
(2,620 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Total number of Americans eligible to vote 218,959,000
Total number of Americans registered to vote 146,311,000
So you are off by about 250 million registered voters. The rest of your thoughts here are similarly unfounded in facts.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Those 13 million actually represent about 10% of people who actually vote.
panader0
(25,816 posts)stopbush
(24,808 posts)People run for office across the country every year, amass millions of votes doing so and still lose. I have never heard any losing candidate assert that they need to be listened to and their policies need to be adopted because millions of people voted for them.
We live in a country of MAJORITY rule. The majority - the vast majority - of Ds have chosen Hillary Clinton as their nominee. I don't see any other losing presidential candidate in either party demanding that their positions need to be reflected in the party platform because "millions of people voted for me."
Sorry, but this argument is too convenient by half. It's just another example of Sen Sanders moving the goalposts to benefit him and no one else. He did it throughout the campaign when it came to how the votes should be counted, starting with the declaration that the winner should be determined solely by who wins the popular vote, to declaring that the pledged delegate count should hold more weight than the supers. Of course, once Hillary amassed a vast majority of the popular vote, the pledged delegates, the super delegates, the number of states and territories won and won by any other metric you might choose, Sanders asserted that the super delegates should ignore everything he said before and vote for him because he was "more electable" than Hillary.
Honestly, there is no reason on Earth that the D party or Hillary Clinton needs to listen to Sen Sanders and adopt any of his policies, if for no other reason than the vast majority of Ds who votes in the primaries REJECTED Sanders' policies and voted for Hillary's policies. He got millions of votes? So what? She got more.
You may as well assert that Hillary needs to adopt some of Trump's policies because he got millions more votes than Sanders. Shouldn't the voices of those millions of Americans who voted for Trump also be reflected in Hillary's platform?
Seems to me you are continuing to fight the primaries, which are over.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)as does (alas) Trump.
It's a big country.
Continue with his better ideas, but Bernie himself is now largely as irrelevant as he was in the Senate.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)Some are attempting to get around D U rules by posting negative media stories about the Clintons. Tired of alerting. I can watch Faux News if I wanted to see them.
aikoaiko
(34,214 posts)And he is relevant.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)just sayin'
Sivart
(325 posts)The fact that the rules at DU have been so slanted in favor of Clinton that Clinton supporters now feel 100 percent comfortable declaring that there are too many threads about stuff they don't like speaks volumes about the legitimacy of any discussions that take place here now.
DemonGoddess
(5,127 posts)and you KNOW it. There are so many "concern troll" threads to dismiss and tear down the presumptive nominee it's not even funny.
Instead of OPENLY still "fighting the primary", it's being done more subtly, and being allowed to stand. So, while there is certainly more of an air of civility, on the face of it, really not so much.
Sivart
(325 posts)In case you hadn't read it.
Sanders is still a candidate for the Democratic Nomination for president, in case you were unaware.
DemonGoddess
(5,127 posts)in case YOU weren't aware.
Melissa G
(10,170 posts)Sivart
(325 posts)He is still considered a candidate. The process has not come to completion and Sanders has not suspended or dropped out.
This is where we get the term - PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE. Have you heard this term used before? Did you ever realize its purpose?