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Night Watchman

(743 posts)
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 01:02 PM Jul 2016

DOJ veterans weigh in on Comey’s HRC speech: “I don’t even think J. Edgar Hoover ever did this”

From Salon...

When FBI Director James Comey took the podium at the J. Edgar Hoover Building on Tuesday to address the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email system during her time as secretary of state, he acknowledged at the outset that his remarks would be unusual.

“I am going to include more detail about our process than I ordinarily would, because I think the American people deserve those details in a case of intense public interest,” Comey explained, stressing that he had not coordinated with the Department of Justice or any other government agency before delivering his statement.



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According to Nick Akerman, a former federal prosecutor who also served as an assistant special prosecutor with the Watergate Special Prosecution Force, Comey overstepped the bounds of his office with his statement.
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“What was so unusual and what was beyond the pale here was that the director of the FBI got up and basically announced the decision, which is never done by the FBI,” Akerman said. “I don’t even think J. Edgar Hoover ever did this.”

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/09/i_dont_even_think_j_edgar_hoover_ever_did_this_doj_veterans_weigh_in_on_fbi_director_james_comeys_handling_of_clinton_email_probe/


Yes, I have selectively included those parts of the article which impugn Director Comey for shitting all over Secretary Clinton while "exonerating" her. His job was to recommend indictment or recommend the contrary, not to editorialize!
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DOJ veterans weigh in on Comey’s HRC speech: “I don’t even think J. Edgar Hoover ever did this” (Original Post) Night Watchman Jul 2016 OP
I agree. His speech was very baffling. NWCorona Jul 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #2
Many agents have expressed this exact thought. I also pointed that out in a previous post. politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2016 #5
Mediaite: President Obama Should Fire FBI Director James Comey Night Watchman Jul 2016 #6
He sounded unprofessional ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #3
Comparing Comey to Hoover is a bit over the top, isn't it? nt transatlantica Jul 2016 #4
What other Director of the FBI has attempted a smear job like that pnwmom Jul 2016 #7
the connotation is that Comey is worse than Hoover transatlantica Jul 2016 #16
No. I'm saying that no Director since Hoover has made such an inappropriate pnwmom Jul 2016 #18
aren't you the poster who likened the Comey debacle to Kabuki theater and thought DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #13
no transatlantica Jul 2016 #14
sorry. I thought i remembered yr id from that thread. DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #15
I think that this article amouts "Republican talking points" - other opinions? CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #8
Why did Obama appoint this guy in the first place? jalan48 Jul 2016 #9
I think he was a holdover from the Bush Administration. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #11
A holdover from one of the worst Presidential Administrations in US history? jalan48 Jul 2016 #12
I think it's worth remembering that Comey also asserted last year that cops are afraid to do their Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #10
Here's the Video Night Watchman Jul 2016 #19
K&R! Cha Jul 2016 #17

Response to NWCorona (Reply #1)

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
5. Many agents have expressed this exact thought. I also pointed that out in a previous post.
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jul 2016

The agents who condemned Comey have said that what he did goes against FBI policy, and is never done for good reason. The FBI when making a decision to not prosecute an individual limits its statement to just that. After a thorough review of the facts we have concluded that the defendent did not commit a criminal offense and will not be charged. To do as Comey did and start making declarations that Clinton and others had been extremely careless, is to indict them or accuse them of guilt without a trial. The reason that this is never done, is because, even if the FBI had brought an indictment, they (the FBI) would still have had to prove their case, beyond a reasonable doubt, at a trial.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
3. He sounded unprofessional
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 01:53 PM
Jul 2016

And bitter. When pressed by Rebublcans he had to reiterate that no one sensible would prosecute the case, and not because of evidence--there never was any "there" there-- but because of the lack of it. So he choose to spin it.

The most interesting thing to come out of this mess was the revelations of how antiquated the State departments set up was. Hopefully they're fixing it.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
7. What other Director of the FBI has attempted a smear job like that
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jul 2016

on someone he wasn't going to indict?

Goodwin doesn't recall any similar statement and neither do I. Do you?

“I do not recall a time when the F.B.I. has made a statement like this involving a case,” said Booth Goodwin, a former U.S. attorney and Democrat who expressed his “utmost respect” for Comey.

“I found it particularly odd that the director referred to the Justice Department as somehow independent from the FBI when in fact the FBI is an agency within the Department of Justice,” Goodwin said. “His direct report is Deputy Attorney General [Sally] Yates. If someone was going to make such a statement, it should have come from Deputy Attorney General Yates or Attorney General Lynch.”
 

transatlantica

(49 posts)
16. the connotation is that Comey is worse than Hoover
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:54 AM
Jul 2016

Mentioning Hoover automatically raises a red flag regarding misconduct, massive violation of civil rights, etc. which is inappropriate IMO.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
18. No. I'm saying that no Director since Hoover has made such an inappropriate
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 02:07 AM
Jul 2016

statement regarding a person the FBI did not recommend be charged with a crime.

But if you can cite any other Director who has, please do.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
13. aren't you the poster who likened the Comey debacle to Kabuki theater and thought
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jul 2016

That Hillary did break the law.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. I think it's worth remembering that Comey also asserted last year that cops are afraid to do their
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 10:45 PM
Jul 2016

jobs because people with cell phones are "allowed" to film them under the 1st Amendment.

Sort of ironic given recent events.

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