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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:47 AM

Star Member Zorro (15,233 posts)

Clinton, Sanders officially set Tuesday for unity rally in New Hampshire

The widely expected -- and in the eyes of some Democrats, somewhat overdue -- unity event between Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders is now officially on for Tuesday.

The two campaigns confirmed the schedule in announcements Monday morning saying that Sanders would join the former secretary of State at a rally in Portsmouth, N.H., the state where his thumping primary victory established Sanders as a formidable rival for the nomination.

Sanders and Clinton have been inching towards a joint appearance for several weeks since Clinton clinched the nomination on the eve of the California primary. In recent days, the two camps have reached compromises on several key issues for the party platform, and Sanders has gradually strengthened his statements in support of Clinton and opposition to Donald Trump.

Many Democrats, however, have said Sanders moved too slowly, and his leverage has waned as other major Democratic figures, notably President Obama and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, have campaigned with Clinton.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-updates-clinton-sanders-officially-set-tuesday-1468238830-htmlstory.html

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Reply Clinton, Sanders officially set Tuesday for unity rally in New Hampshire (Original post)
 Zorro Jul 2016 OP
LineReply Congrats to Hillary on Bernie's endorsement.
 morningfog Jul 2016 #1
LineLineReply well said
 uawchild Jul 2016 #16
LineLineLineReply That article's hitting lessening of "leverage,"
 Hortensis Jul 2016 #20
LineReply "... somewhat overdue" ?? That's a nice (but inaccurate) way to put it.
 NurseJackie Jul 2016 #2
LineLineReply and we certainly don't want to foment discord, do we.
 Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #19
LineLineLineNew Reply Having to have a state he thumped her, having to have equal two speakers.....
 seabeyond Jul 2016 #29
LineLineLineNew Reply Ha!! :-D
 NurseJackie Jul 2016 #36
LineReply Thank you, Senator Sanders n/t
 cosmicone Jul 2016 #3
LineReply Good, and I am happy he has waited
 Mass Jul 2016 #4
LineReply Is Sanders going to join the coalition.
 NCTraveler Jul 2016 #5
LineLineReply I think he's bringing another one with him.
 Orsino Jul 2016 #8
LineLineLineReply I'm not sure he is in possession of a viable coalition at this point.
 NCTraveler Jul 2016 #15
LineReply It still doesn't actually say Sen Sanders will endorse Hillary at the event.
 auntpurl Jul 2016 #6
LineLineReply I'm not sure he ever will, or feels it will help with the tiny but vocal fringe ready to swarm
 bettyellen Jul 2016 #7
LineLineLineReply Dunnno. Bernie has a long history of cold-shouldering
 Hortensis Jul 2016 #21
LineLineReply People are looking for that sound bite, and rather obsessively.
 Orsino Jul 2016 #9
LineLineLineReply When/where has he said he'll endorse?
 auntpurl Jul 2016 #10
LineLineLineLineReply Everywhere.
 Orsino Jul 2016 #11
LineLineLineLineLineReply Well, yes.
 auntpurl Jul 2016 #12
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply I think we all know that the word is coming.
 Orsino Jul 2016 #13
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply I hope so, and I will welcome Senator Sanders' support when it comes. nt
 auntpurl Jul 2016 #14
LineLineReply Between needing to use the state Sanders thumped, and having to have two speakers on
 seabeyond Jul 2016 #26
LineLineLineNew Reply The crowd is extremely rowdy.
 auntpurl Jul 2016 #27
LineLineLineLineNew Reply We create. And what I am seeing created isn't conducive.
 seabeyond Jul 2016 #28
LineLineNew Reply Hillary wouldn't have agreed to it if he isn't going to endorse
 liberalnarb Jul 2016 #30
LineLineLineNew Reply That makes sense. Hope you're right.
 auntpurl Jul 2016 #31
LineLineLineLineNew Reply What ? Where are you watching it???
 liberalnarb Jul 2016 #33
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply No, it's much better now.
 auntpurl Jul 2016 #34
LineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply I got it.
 liberalnarb Jul 2016 #35
LineLineLineNew Reply Clinton has taken the higher road thru out. Seems it is a one sided reaching out, over and over and
 seabeyond Jul 2016 #32
LineReply I don't care any more.
 murielm99 Jul 2016 #17
LineReply What time?
 nolabear Jul 2016 #18
LineReply Post removed
 Post removed Jul 2016 #22
LineLineReply MIRT!!
 auntpurl Jul 2016 #23
LineLineLineReply MIRT's still a thing under the new rules, right?
 Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #24
LineLineLineLineReply Oh yes.
 auntpurl Jul 2016 #25

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:55 AM

morningfog (18,115 posts)

1. Congrats to Hillary on Bernie's endorsement.

 

A lot of work went into it. Bernie, who was issue focused and shape the debate focused from the beginning, turned out to be far better received than anyone thought he would be, including himself.

He maintained that focus even after Hillary secured enough delegates to win on the first ballot of the convention and continued to lobby the platform committee. He earned concessions along the way.

The timing is just right.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 06:30 PM

uawchild (2,208 posts)

16. well said

And as a Bernie suporter, I'll do my best also to elect Hilary.

I have mad phone bank skiilz. lol

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Response to uawchild (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:27 AM

Star Member Hortensis (56,721 posts)

20. That article's hitting lessening of "leverage,"

in that typically insidious way most media have of inserting negative spin, should also have pointed out that in the process of using his leverage he got most of what he wanted into the platform, arriving at a consensus just about where his camp, the DNC, and Hillary's camp always expected it to be at this point.

If they were newly honest, most media would also finally confess that Sanders and HRC didn't actually have to move very much at all to reach this point, that most of the "division" was hype.

Doors open at 9 at the high school, the principals show up much later no doubt, but people are recommended to arrive early...probably about now.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:01 AM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

2. "... somewhat overdue" ?? That's a nice (but inaccurate) way to put it.

His tardiness has only fomented discord and continued the battle longer than necessary. Momma always told me that you can't expect a cut or a scrape to heal if you keep picking-off the scab, and in my opinion, that's what's been happening here. Not only will we have delayed "healing" but because of all the picking, there will be an ugly scar that was completely unnecessary.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:55 AM

Star Member Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)

19. and we certainly don't want to foment discord, do we.

I mean, I know no one here wants to foment discord. Heavens, no.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:14 AM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

29. Having to have a state he thumped her, having to have equal two speakers.....

 

Who foments?

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:00 PM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

36. Ha!! :-D

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:09 AM

cosmicone (11,014 posts)

3. Thank you, Senator Sanders n/t

 

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:15 AM

Mass (27,315 posts)

4. Good, and I am happy he has waited

A few mistatements in this, in particular

Sanders has gradually strengthened his statements in support of Clinton and opposition to Donald Trump.


There has NEVER been a question about this.

As for the next point, who thinks the platform would have been that clear if Sanders had done what some have asked and disappear without fighting for his ideas. I am happy to see Secretary Clinton has changed her positions about college tuition, in particular.

But it is good that the party is unified before the GOP convention. The focus must be on Trump, not on the variations before different types of Democrats.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:41 AM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

5. Is Sanders going to join the coalition.

 



Huge move considering he has avoided coalition building for decades. So much positive has come from this primary cycle.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 12:58 PM

Orsino (37,428 posts)

8. I think he's bringing another one with him.

At leadt I hope he is. We'll be better for it.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 02:23 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

15. I'm not sure he is in possession of a viable coalition at this point.

 

Still a worthy endorsement.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:44 AM

auntpurl (4,311 posts)

6. It still doesn't actually say Sen Sanders will endorse Hillary at the event.

Has Bernie's camp confirmed an endorsement? What I don't want to see is Bernie doing another same ole stump speech and then just handing the mic over without a firm endorsement.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 12:49 PM

bettyellen (47,209 posts)

7. I'm not sure he ever will, or feels it will help with the tiny but vocal fringe ready to swarm

 

Twitter and FB with hatred when he does. It'll make him look worse. HRC has already earned the support of people who want to defeat the GOP.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:42 AM

Star Member Hortensis (56,721 posts)

21. Dunnno. Bernie has a long history of cold-shouldering

a lot of left-wing radicals. Bernie is famous for not suffering those he considers fools, not even lightly. He apparently draws the ideological line directly to his left, not just directly to his right.

(Useless fools | BS | Corrupt fools)

While campaigning he tried to draw as many from all points of the ideological spectrum as he could, and he may feel he still needs to hold onto as many as possible for the future. But maybe not too. Or perhaps he'll feel they could always be rallied again when the time comes.

Whatever, I think there's a clue to his thoughts in the fact that he is now endorsing Hillary Clinton.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:01 PM

Orsino (37,428 posts)

9. People are looking for that sound bite, and rather obsessively.

Significant differences existed between the campaigns, but Trump and a unity platform are making them look less significant.

Sanders promised ling ago to work to elect the Democratic nominee, and has already said he'll endorse. I think we can all read between the lines.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:07 PM

auntpurl (4,311 posts)

10. When/where has he said he'll endorse?

I hadn't seen that quote. Thanks in advance.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:11 PM

Orsino (37,428 posts)

11. Everywhere.

Unless, of course, one is determined to hold out for the word "endorse."

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:12 PM

auntpurl (4,311 posts)

12. Well, yes.

It obviously matters. Hillary ENDORSED President Obama in 2008. Which is the correct thing to do when you've lost a primary.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:14 PM

Orsino (37,428 posts)

13. I think we all know that the word is coming.

They're about to make a very big deal with it. There will be balloons, but we already have the unity platform and Sanders' pledge.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:16 PM

auntpurl (4,311 posts)

14. I hope so, and I will welcome Senator Sanders' support when it comes. nt

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:01 AM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

26. Between needing to use the state Sanders thumped, and having to have two speakers on

 

each side, I am saying this is not boding well.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:02 AM

auntpurl (4,311 posts)

27. The crowd is extremely rowdy.

If everyone isn't polite...I'm feeling nervous.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:12 AM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

28. We create. And what I am seeing created isn't conducive.

 

I have a very very low bullshit meter right now

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:15 AM

liberalnarb (4,532 posts)

30. Hillary wouldn't have agreed to it if he isn't going to endorse

 

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:16 AM

auntpurl (4,311 posts)

31. That makes sense. Hope you're right.

The crowd is very rowdy. I really hope there are no over-enthusiastic Bernie supporters booing and shouting abuse. There already seem to be, with the speakers on now.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:41 AM

liberalnarb (4,532 posts)

33. What ? Where are you watching it???

 

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:42 AM

auntpurl (4,311 posts)

34. No, it's much better now.

It was earlier, during the early speakers. I think they've got it under control now.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:57 AM

liberalnarb (4,532 posts)

35. I got it.

 

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:16 AM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

32. Clinton has taken the higher road thru out. Seems it is a one sided reaching out, over and over and

 

over

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:15 AM

Star Member murielm99 (29,837 posts)

17. I don't care any more.

His dithering has made any endorsement irrelevant. The primaries are over.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:30 AM

Star Member nolabear (41,097 posts)

18. What time?

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:56 AM

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23. MIRT!!

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:58 AM

Tommy_Carcetti (42,267 posts)

24. MIRT's still a thing under the new rules, right?

I sure hope it is.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:59 AM

auntpurl (4,311 posts)

25. Oh yes.

This place couldn't function without MIRT. They do the Lord's work.

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