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[NCTraveler]

1. K&R

Beautiful. Love the logo from the first reply to you in the Sanders Group. Can't leave messages of support and positivity there so I will here.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Tomorrow, you, me, and Bernie will be Clinton supporters.

[Demsrule86]

5. I agree completely!

I am back too ...

[Scurrilous]

2. K & R

[JaneyVee]

4. They let you back in?

Didnt they ban you over there?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Disappointing

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[one_voice]

9. You were banned for posting a positive story

about BERNIE SANDERS in the BERNIE SANDERS group?

Maybe a Democrat supporting a Democrat in a GE isn't considered positive. seems weird on a site called Democratic Underground.

Anyway, this is a good thing. I liked Bernie's ideas and am glad to see them put into our platform.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Disappointing

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[Maru Kitteh]

15. Positive news about Democratic candidates on DU ought to be a good thing, right?

One would think. Hard to believe what you see some times.

[BobbyDrake]

13. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." nt

[Cali_Democrat]

14. They aren't Dems. nt

[NurseJackie]

7. And for your effort, you become #400 in the BSGroup banned-list. (Wow.)

[NurseJackie]

11. It's certainly something...

... and it's difficult to understand the motivation for things like that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Disappointing

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[NurseJackie]

18. In my opinion, and I could be wrong ...

... some might view this as being a form of retaliation for who you are and whom you supported during the primary, rather than for some misbehavior or undesirable post in the BSGroup.

Oh well, no good deed (or gesture) goes unpunished. You don't deserve to be treated that way.

I hope you don't let it bother you. I've seen it written that some people find great comfort in holding on to anger and grudges ... so I guess it makes sense if you look at it that way.

Hang in there, DSB! You're a gem! xoxoxo

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Disappointing

[morningfog]

19. That's not why you were banned from the group.

It's a safe haven for Bernie supporters. Your posting history throughout the primary made clear you were not a Bernie supporter. Had you just let them be, you wouldn't have been banned.

[NurseJackie]

21. Ah! So he was banned for who he is, and NOT for having actually done anything wrong. Charming.

[HumanityExperiment]

23. Funny, HRC group does the exact same thing so where's your angst concerning that?

n/t

[stevenleser]

26. Nope, the situation has changed. Bernie is now a Hillary supporter. nt

[NurseJackie]

36. I've only seen actual argumentative disruptors banned from the HRC group ...

... but, if---as you claim---someone was banned for simply having a Bernie avatar, and for no other reason, then they shouldn't have been. (I remain highly doubtful that what you claim is actually true.)

"Angst"? That's the word you choose? Seriously?

[HumanityExperiment]

40. no claim... it's factual... the banning within both Bernie and HRC follow somewhat similar patterns

intellectual dishonesty aside, proof is in the facts if one takes the time to gather those facts

[NurseJackie]

44. Well, looks like you've got your work cut out for you. I do not believe your claim ...

... until it's proven otherwise. However, the evidence, timing and reason for DSB's banning is right there for everyone to see. Perhaps one of the HRCGroup hosts will chime in to confirm.

Nevertheless, your "defense" of both-sides-did-it is hardly an justification for DSB to be treated like that. That's particularly true at this late date and now that the primaries are over, and especially in consideration that it was a kind gesture on his part.

[HumanityExperiment]

46. interesting...

is this the 'example' one should expect from HRC supporters as it pertains to Bernie supporters on this site moving forward through this GE cycle?

'I do not believe your claim'... even when the facts clearly support this?

I'll use my own 'banned' example... feel free to use the same intellectual 'scalpel' concerning DSB's post as compared to my post within HRC group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=97993

[NurseJackie]

47. Yeah, I'd have blocked you for that too. They made the right choice. It's pretty clear to me ...

... what you were up to.

But you know, the more you try to justify it and explain-it-away, the more I'm convinced that it was just pettiness and revenge. (BTW: It also looks like you're still holding a grudge if you're still upset about something that happened back on 4/11/16.)

Fact is: The primaries are over and DSB made a nice gesture, and got banned for it. I guess the old saying about how some people can never be pleased is true.

[HumanityExperiment]

48. odd...

... you replied with: Well, looks like you've got your work cut out for you. I do not believe your claim'

I replied with an example to disprove your claim but you pivot in this latest reply...

impressive mental gyrations you have going on there...

have a day!

[NurseJackie]

49. Fail. Claim not proved.

I replied with an example to disprove your claim

No you didn't. His was a gesture of friendship, unity and consolation. Yours wasn't. DSB didn't deserve to be banned for his post. You deserved to be banned for yours.

[morningfog]

51. You do not get to say whether a group's banning is deserved or not,

unless you are a host of that group.

It, quite simply, ain't up to you or any of your concern.

[NurseJackie]

52. Sure I do ... I just did.

[HumanityExperiment]

57. interesting...

throughout primary DSB is and still remains 'hostile' to Bernie supporters

you're entitled to your own perception but not to your facts...

the details prove out my point as it pertains to DSB, feel free to debate the factual history on DU concerning DSB and Bernie and his supporters here on DU

have a day!

[NurseJackie]

60. The primaries are over.

the details prove out my point as it pertains to DSB,

You had a point? What was it? You're all over the map on this one.

throughout primary DSB is and still remains 'hostile' to Bernie supporters

His post was not hostile or argumentative or insulting. It was a gesture of goodwill. It was a shitty way for DSB to be treated.

[AgingAmerican]

27. I was banned from the HRC group for the exact same thing

[stevenleser]

30. For announcing that Hillary endorsed Bernie? I should hope so since that wouldnt be true. nt

[AgingAmerican]

33. No, for being a known Sanders supporter

[Hekate]

53. LOLZ. And the big rotating turd in your sig line?

I think it was a bit more than that, and I think you know it as well.

But let's all be pals now. We have an election to win and a fascist to defeat.

[morningfog]

43. No. He was banned for what he has actually posted throughout the primaries.

This isn't complicated.

[NurseJackie]

45. So, his being banned is RETALIATION for the content of previous posts elsewhere on the site. Got it!

[morningfog]

50. He was banned because his posting history makes clear he is not a Bernie supporter and posted

within a safe have for Bernie supporters. It's not RETALIATION 1!!111!!! It's the Bernie Group keeping non-Bernie supporters out.

[NurseJackie]

59. Thanks for clarifying ...

He was banned because his posting history makes clear he is not a Bernie supporter...

His posting history, eh? Holding grudges for things he's posted during the primaries and in the past? News Flash: The primaries are over. What you've described and the "justification" for it sounds a lot like petty retaliation to me.

It's the Bernie Group keeping non-Bernie supporters out.

At best it was discriminatory. DSB didn't deserve being treated that way. It was a shitty thing for someone to do.

[bettyellen]

54. Same as it ever was.

[stevenleser]

22. It still seems spiteful. It's pretty clear that Bernie is about to become a Hillary supporter.

I think the Sanders group should be OK with celebrating that.

It's your safe haven and you have the power to do what you want. But just because you have the power to do something, doesn't mean doing it is the right thing.

[HumanityExperiment]

24. Funny, HRC group does the exact same thing so where's your angst concerning that?

n/t

[stevenleser]

25. Nope, the situation has changed. Bernie is now a Hillary supporter. nt

[HumanityExperiment]

28. 'flipped the swtich'

care to elaborate exactly how one's principles are 'suspended' through an 'endorsement'?

I always find this bit interesting... I'm looking to see who might step up and explain how that 'switch' is supposed to work...

care to elaborate?

[stevenleser]

31. Not playing that game. You know exactly what I am talking about and that's not it. nt

[HumanityExperiment]

34. ...playing that game...

what game?

I posted this: 'Funny, HRC group does the exact same thing so where's your angst concerning that?'

you replied: 'Nope, the situation has changed. Bernie is now a Hillary supporter'

let me rephrase...

what 'situation' has changed through Bernie 'supporting' HRC?

please be specific since clearly your replies allude to something that requires details, if you're unwilling to provide details then your point is dismissed correct?

[George II]

38. Since you bring it up, educated estimates (i.e., by the owner of this site) is that.....

....Sanders supporters outnumber Clinton supporters by about 4-1 (actually the estimate is 85% to 15%)

So, since there are 400 people banned from the Sanders group and 832 from the Clinton group, normalized that about twice as many banned from the Sanders group than the Clinton group.

[HumanityExperiment]

41. you're assuming ALL DUers interact with each group....

since that's clearly not the case, that fact alone would dismiss your premise outright

[SidDithers]

29. Bernie would be banned from the Bernie Group...

for posting his endorsement of Hillary.

Sid

[metroins]

32. That made me laugh nt

[NurseJackie]

37. You make a valid point. Very observant of you!

[Hekate]

55. Sid, Sid, Sid...

[morningfog]

42. It's not my safe haven. I'm banned from there too.

[Hekate]

58. Did I miss something? Are you saying you got banned from the BSGroup? That's just wrong.

And sad.

[workinclasszero]

16. Wow how ridiculous!

Banned for standing with Bernie and Hillary?!

I really thought DU was going to be a democratic party support board again.

Maybe that idea was a little premature?

[George II]

35. Interesting. Proudly #23 on that list.

[NurseJackie]

39. As a newbie, I stumbled in there before understanding the concept of "protected groups" ...

... and was immediately banned. Oh well.

[bettyellen]

17. wow, spiteful. I guess since they can't say what they really think anymore...

You can't either.

[BlueCaliDem]

56. That's pretty much it. eom