2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJill Stein claims Obama is "Bush on steroids." IOW, much worse than George W.
One more reason no real progressive should consider supporting her.
http://nzagainstthecurrent.blogspot.com/2016/02/rejecting-lesser-evil.html
"We had Bush and all the terrible things under Bush. Then we had Obama, even with the Democratic Congress in both houses for two years. And what did we get under Obama? It was Bush on steroids."
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)synergie
(1,901 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)That would be an arguable case.
Let's keep it real.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)This was during an interview with truthout last year. I'd link it but nobody will read it anyway. I've discovered that once a meme is set, it's impossible to break through.
But yeah, whistleblower prosecution is another area.
Drones too I'd guess.
Deportations unquestionably.
I really like Obama and would vote for him again if I could but I've never been one to put any politician on a pedestal, blind to flaws.
artyteacher
(598 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)Like Earl Warren.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,749 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Period! People were sick, elections contested for many months to prevent him having majorities.
Liar.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,749 posts)Stein is full of it.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Thank god those asses have followed the piper into the river. They breathe lies.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,749 posts)This is not what Sanders wants. He knows the stakes of a Trump presidency.
brush
(53,843 posts)to be running for president.
Either that or she's working with the repugs as that's one of their inaccurate talking points.
And what is with this Green Party hubris that makes them think that they should run for the highest office in the land without beginning with local, statewide and Congressional offices?
You only hear about them ever 4 years, and when you do, all you hear is them attacking the Democrats, not the repugs.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I'm just so tired of the lies- from a candidate no less? Please.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Like, the period after Al Franken was finally seated but before Ted Kennedy died and Scott Brown replaced him.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)As well as GOP plotting, really put the screws to poor Obama.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)they are supporting her, they are not progressive.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)for consumer protection generally before enabling Bush II's selection. See, e.g., Nader's Raiders http://www.pophistorydig.com/topics/naders-raiders-1968-1974/
It is a tragedy that he tarnished that legacy.
So far as I know, Jill Stein has never done anything for anyone except herself. On Valium she may be, but not as Nader.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)apcalc
(4,465 posts)She seems too harsh and unforgiving for me.....
ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)Good at getting attention though
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Of people are stupid enough to believe her. All of them will show up to vote for her. That is some crazy shit she is saying.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I'm glad we agree as to how far out there the comment is. Common ground.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)She should run with Trump for the all idiot ticket.
MADem
(135,425 posts)If the Greens want to ever be taken seriously, they need to get rid of that Lexingtonian dilettante. She treats the party like her personal soap box and has for years.
The growth of the Green party--for those who really want to see a viable 3rd party come to the fore--has been horribly stunted by her iron-fisted control over it. She runs it like a fiefdom, and she's the queen. She controls access and agenda and serves as the spokesmodel for the franchise. Everything goes through her, and everyone else had best shut up.
I think a knock-down, drag-out fight for the leadership of that entity would do wonders for its viability. As long as she's in charge, it's a joke, basically. That may sound harsh, but it's also accurate.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Spazito
(50,453 posts)She thinks saying crap like that will make her relevant, major fail.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Another reason why I closed the book on that party more than 14 years ago.
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)ram2008
(1,238 posts)No thanks.
revmclaren
(2,529 posts)WOW!!!!
I really hope that that level of delusion is the result of being altered and not her true belief. Thats some scary sad S@#T!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Hekate
(90,793 posts)Response to pnwmom (Original post)
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840high
(17,196 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Jill,
Mz Pip
(27,453 posts)59 days. That's the number of days the democrats controlled the Senate from the time the Franken seat was resolved and Kennedy died.
If she were so smart and savvy she would know that. How Bernie supports can consider voting for this hyperbole driven person is beyond me.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)and his vote couldn't be counted on.
TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)Ditto.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Too many nutcases in the Green Party for my taste. That's just my opinion.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)Can we just agree she's a crackpot and move on?
book_worm
(15,951 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)posts there.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I notice a ton of people at JPR do. Heck, I counted at least seven former DUers over there pushing for Trump. It's like a combination of Romper Room and a Rubber Room over there.
Yukari Yakumo
(3,013 posts)Who?
Night Watchman
(743 posts)A beer stein has more sense!