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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 06:51 PM Jul 2016

Do you realize just how scary they are?

The Lucifer thing really got my goat. Not because I thought it was over the line; in essence comparing your political opponent to the Devil. You can hear that on talk radio all day long.

That is not what concerned me the most. The really scary thing:

Most of the people in that arena truly believe in Lucifer. They think there is this really bad spirit dude who is tempting each of us and some people not only give in to temptation, but 'join' his team. And the groups they think have joined Lucifer's team keeps getting larger. LGBT, Feminist, Democrats, Pro-choice folks and the list goes on. And since they think we are allies with the devil, we are witnessing the de-humanizing of all of us. They are not close to needing a final solution for us, far from it. But we cannot give them time.

We have to win this election or things are going to get ugly.

If you had told me 2 weeks ago I would post something like this I would have cussed at you. I am not that many years removed from being a republican, but what we are seeing now is just crazy. Carson was not using hyperbole. He truly believes Hillary, and all of her supporters, are aligned with the Devil. And lots of folks in that hall totally agree.

God, I wish Walter Cronkite was alive today. He would call this shit for what it is.

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Do you realize just how scary they are? (Original Post) GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 OP
If Cronkite were alive... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #1
I like Cronkite, but what do you base that statement on? The two KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #3
We don't need a dragon slayer.. We need a newsperson with the perceived authority that Cronkite had. pnwmom Jul 2016 #5
I paraphrase, since I was 2 years old when the Tet Offensive happened GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #7
I dont deny that Cronkite had a lot of journalistic gravitas but his broadcast KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #12
Do not disagree GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #13
Trump twitter... fun n serious Jul 2016 #2
A lot of them want this to be the end times! redstateblues Jul 2016 #6
I think they secretly believe he is the anti-Christ TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #18
You are right -- that is the scariest thing. And that's why I keep saying that all this Hillary hate pnwmom Jul 2016 #4
It's times like this I miss Molly Ivins Martin Eden Jul 2016 #8
Sorry to say GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #9
Molly was a nationally known columnist, humorist, and political commentator Martin Eden Jul 2016 #11
Yes, I do realize how crazy they are. nruthie Jul 2016 #10
I am really hoping this convention brings that home to people. Squinch Jul 2016 #17
Scary doesn't describe these people shopgirl Jul 2016 #14
I hope this is not causing problems for you GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #15
No problem for us shopgirl Jul 2016 #20
I can relate GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #21
Isn't that a colossal dog whistle for real unhinged people! Her Sister Jul 2016 #16
It is a mistake to call them unhinged GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #19
you mean this guy? whoooooo wheeeeee niyad Jul 2016 #22
 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
3. I like Cronkite, but what do you base that statement on? The two
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jul 2016

Journalists I consider dragon slayers are Edward R. burrow and I. F. Stone.

pnwmom

(108,858 posts)
5. We don't need a dragon slayer.. We need a newsperson with the perceived authority that Cronkite had.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jul 2016

The ability to reach an audience and garner its trust.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
7. I paraphrase, since I was 2 years old when the Tet Offensive happened
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jul 2016

But going on the air live nationally and telling American we are not winning this war took some stones.

Calling out Trump and Carson for their... I do not even know what to call it. He would have eviscerated them.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
12. I dont deny that Cronkite had a lot of journalistic gravitas but his broadcast
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jul 2016

after Tet '68 called Vietnam a "stalemate," thereby driving a stake into the heart of all of Westmoreland's bullshit about lights "at the end of a tunnel."

Murrow, by contrast, Actually called out Joe McCarthy while McCarthy was at the height of his influence.. Now THAT took stones! 😏

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. Do not disagree
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jul 2016

But man, Morrow was before my time. I would totally LMAO to see a reporter come on the air, smoking a cig, and tell the nation that Trump was full of shit. Which Morrow would have done.

I am not encouraging smoking here. It took me forever to quit. But can you imagine the image of a slim man in a super stylish suit telling the nation the truth about Trump. 60 years ago that would have happened.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
2. Trump twitter...
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jul 2016

If you look on Trump Twitter you will see.... Some people are saying they are voting for Trump to stop the end times from coming. They're talking "rapture" and all kinds of stuff. They are referencing the marriage equality court decision as proof that it os coming... It's insane.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
6. A lot of them want this to be the end times!
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jul 2016

Like trump's ghostwriter said-" if he has the nuclear code it could be the end of civilization!

TexasBushwhacker

(19,789 posts)
18. I think they secretly believe he is the anti-Christ
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jul 2016

And will hasten the end times and their rapture.

21 FACTS ABOUT THE ANTICHRIST

1. He will be an intellectual genius. Dan. 8:23
(He certainly THINKS he's a genius)

2. He will be an oratorical genius. Dan. 11:36

3. He will be a political genius. Rev. 17:11-12

4. He will be a commercial genius. Dan. 11:43; Rev. 13:8
5. He will be a military genius. Rev. 6:2, 13:2

6. He will be a religous genius. 2 Thess. 2:4, Rev. 13:8

7. He will begin by controlling the Western power block. Rev. 17:12

8. He will make a seven-year covenant with Israel but will break it after three and a half years. Dan. 9:27

9. He will attempt to destroy all of Israel. Rev. 12

10. He will destroy the false religious system so that he may rule unhindered. Rev. 17:16-17

11. He will set himself up as God. Dan. 11:36-37; 2 Thess. 2:4, 11; Rev. 13:5

12. He will briefly rule over all nations. Ps. 2; Dan. 11:36; Rev. 13:16

13. He will be utterly crushed by the Lord Jesus Christ at the Battle of Armageddon. Rev. 19

14. He will be the first creature thrown into the lake of fire. Rev. 19:20

15. He will be a master of deceit. 2 Thess. 2:10
16. He will profane the temple. Matt. 24:15

17. He will be energized by satan himself. Rev. 13:2

18.He will do everything according to his own selfish will. Dan. 11:36

19. He will not regard the God of his fathers. Dan. 11:37

20. He will not have the desire of women. Dan. 11:37

21. His god will be the god of power.

http://www.endtimesbroadcast.com

pnwmom

(108,858 posts)
4. You are right -- that is the scariest thing. And that's why I keep saying that all this Hillary hate
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jul 2016

-- all the feverish cries to "lock her up" -- are just a modern-day witch trial.

We're back in Salem . . . or maybe we never left.

nruthie

(466 posts)
10. Yes, I do realize how crazy they are.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jul 2016

And , I am terrified that it is only going to get much worse. People who can still laugh at them at this point are simply not paying attention. This is all horrifying.

shopgirl

(23 posts)
14. Scary doesn't describe these people
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jul 2016

All of my in-laws and several friends have become "born again" and they absolutely believe in Lucifer. I knew that the in-laws had been going off the rails for some time now, but the real kicker came on Halloween a couple of years ago. My mother-in-law called to chat and I told her I had to get off the phone because I had trick or treaters at the door. She proceeded to tell me that I was wrong to celebrate this holiday because it was satanic. She mentioned something about "people being sacrificed tonight." Honestly, I thought I was going to fall off my chair.

I try to be tolerant of all religions because I don't think it's for any of us to judge. People can believe (or not believe) whatever they want. But when the Ben Carsons of the world want to change our laws to reflect his particular religious beliefs, well, that's where I have a serious problem.

To add insult to injury, the in-laws don't really believe I'm a Christian because I'm just a Catholic and I haven't been born again. Boggles the mind.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
15. I hope this is not causing problems for you
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jul 2016

I actually know a family where a Catholic marring a Lutheran caused a family crisis. Crazy as that sounds.

shopgirl

(23 posts)
20. No problem for us
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jul 2016

My husband I are on the same page. We both think they're nuts. I tend to deal with it by letting them run off about their "ministering" activities and then subtly changing the subject. My husband deals with it by rarely talking to his mother. They also live in a different area of the country so we don't see them very often.

The last time they visited, I mentioned that a mutual acquaintance was getting a divorce. Mom-in-law said that she doesn't believe in divorce. This rendered me speechless since she is, in fact, divorced, and is now married to her second husband (who really is a wonderful man). When she saw my expression, she explained that this was okay because that was before she became born again. Meanwhile, my hubby and I have been married for over 30 years, which is longer than she has been married. I just always get the feeling that none of these facts matter in her world. It's like I'm "less than" by virtue of my non-born again status. As a result, I'm always a bit guarded in what I say. It's too bad, really, because in many ways she is a very giving, caring person.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. I can relate
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jul 2016

People are complicated. I long ago realize that we all have good and bad traits. And on a personal, family basis we just learn to get along.

But when national politicians use religion to divide us, I start getting pissed.

I have not stated it in this thread because it really does not matter, but I am a liberal Christian.

Have a great evening.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
16. Isn't that a colossal dog whistle for real unhinged people!
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jul 2016

Likening or associating someone with "Lucifer"

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. It is a mistake to call them unhinged
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jul 2016

That is a term best used to describe a few mentally unstable people in society.

These folks are a definite minority, but not a small one. I would guess 15-20% of the population. They know nothing of science and distrust the very name of science. Their only real education has been evangelical propaganda. And that evangelical propaganda has been so mixed up with racism and misogyny over the last 300 years that the lines blur.

And many of them think we are entering the end time. They think this, of course, because they are seeing that a majority of Americans think they are bat shit crazy and reject their theology.

They will not go silently into the night...to quote an awful movie!

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