Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:40 AM
riversedge (63,823 posts)
Connect the dots: Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren will both be in central Florida this weekend
The suspense is giving me an ulcer.
Connect the dots: Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren will both be in central Florida this weekend By Bill Palmer | July 21, 2016 ![]() hillary-clinton-elizabeth-warren In the lead up to a running mate rollout that’s been played close to the vest, the pieces can be put together in just about any way one might like. But here’s what we do know: Hillary Clinton is holding an event this Friday afternoon at the Tampa Fairgrounds in Florida. Elizabeth Warren has an already-scheduled speech the next morning at the National Council of La Raza in Orlando, about ninety minutes away. If you like, the dots connect in an unmistakably intriguing way. In the days since Hillary Clinton’s Friday event in Tampa hit the schedule, even as Politico was reporting that insiders were pointing to a running mate rollout in Florida, questions began to fly as to why she might be using the Sunshine State for the rollout. Perhaps it was because she was choosing someone like Julian Castro or Tom Perez, or a fluent Spanish speaker like Tim Kaine, who might play well with the Hispanic voters in the state. Or maybe she chose Florida simply because it’s such a key swing state and she hadn’t held a major public event there for awhile. But now that we know Elizabeth Warren was already scheduled to be in Florida on Saturday, it brings forth another possible explanation entirely. If Hillary Clinton is going with Warren as her running mate, it could be that she’s simply traveling to the swing state that Warren is already going to be in at the time. Warren also called Joe Kennedy and asked him to come speak at the Democratic National Convention. If Warren becomes the running mate, it’s expected that Kennedy would be the leading contender to take over her Senate seat in what would be a near-immediate special election. And now she’s suddenly making an effort to raise his profile.............................
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riversedge | Jul 2016 | OP |
Agschmid | Jul 2016 | #1 | |
randome | Jul 2016 | #2 | |
hrmjustin | Jul 2016 | #3 | |
riversedge | Jul 2016 | #5 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #4 | |
Person 2713 | Jul 2016 | #9 | |
RBInMaine | Jul 2016 | #11 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #14 | |
John Poet | Jul 2016 | #15 | |
awake | Jul 2016 | #27 | |
DLCWIdem | Jul 2016 | #35 | |
hamsterjill | Jul 2016 | #38 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #46 | |
workinclasszero | Jul 2016 | #56 | |
Squinch | Jul 2016 | #59 | |
chascarrillo | Jul 2016 | #62 | |
zenabby | Jul 2016 | #66 | |
zenabby | Jul 2016 | #67 | |
bigwillq | Jul 2016 | #42 | |
Southerncomfy | Jul 2016 | #6 | |
Eric J in MN | Jul 2016 | #7 | |
mainstreetonce | Jul 2016 | #8 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #12 | |
lillypaddle | Jul 2016 | #32 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #45 | |
lillypaddle | Jul 2016 | #60 | |
RBInMaine | Jul 2016 | #10 | |
John Poet | Jul 2016 | #16 | |
NewJeffCT | Jul 2016 | #19 | |
Arkana | Jul 2016 | #25 | |
lillypaddle | Jul 2016 | #31 | |
yodermon | Jul 2016 | #33 | |
Maven | Jul 2016 | #36 | |
writes3000 | Jul 2016 | #13 | |
auntpurl | Jul 2016 | #17 | |
tallahasseedem | Jul 2016 | #18 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #47 | |
johara | Jul 2016 | #20 | |
awake | Jul 2016 | #28 | |
Koinos | Jul 2016 | #44 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #48 | |
Koinos | Jul 2016 | #49 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #53 | |
Koinos | Jul 2016 | #61 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #65 | |
Koinos | Jul 2016 | #70 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #73 | |
Koinos | Jul 2016 | #74 | |
PatSeg | Jul 2016 | #75 | |
bigtree | Jul 2016 | #21 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2016 | #22 | |
OnDoutside | Jul 2016 | #23 | |
AgadorSparticus | Jul 2016 | #24 | |
still_one | Jul 2016 | #26 | |
lillypaddle | Jul 2016 | #29 | |
yallerdawg | Jul 2016 | #30 | |
MineralMan | Jul 2016 | #34 | |
awake | Jul 2016 | #37 | |
kwolf68 | Jul 2016 | #39 | |
retrowire | Jul 2016 | #40 | |
groundloop | Jul 2016 | #41 | |
Expecting Rain | Jul 2016 | #43 | |
SDJay | Jul 2016 | #50 | |
liberal N proud | Jul 2016 | #51 | |
KPN | Jul 2016 | #52 | |
B Calm | Jul 2016 | #54 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2016 | #58 | |
workinclasszero | Jul 2016 | #55 | |
Setsuna1972 | Jul 2016 | #57 | |
Demsrule86 | Jul 2016 | #63 | |
whistler162 | Jul 2016 | #64 | |
State the Obvious | Jul 2016 | #76 | |
zenabby | Jul 2016 | #68 | |
Orsino | Jul 2016 | #69 | |
democrattotheend | Jul 2016 | #71 | |
ismnotwasm | Jul 2016 | #72 | |
Qutzupalotl | Jul 2016 | #77 | |
Tatiana | Jul 2016 | #78 | |
The empressof all | Jul 2016 | #79 | |
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:43 AM
Agschmid (28,743 posts)
1. God I hope it's her.
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:45 AM
randome (34,845 posts)
2. Fingers crossed.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:47 AM
hrmjustin (71,265 posts)
3. I want it to be Warren.
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #3)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:53 AM
riversedge (63,823 posts)
5. I like Castro myself but I trust she will pick someone who
will help her win.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:52 AM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
4. I hope all the talk of Vilsack
and Kaine are just diversions, so she can spring a huge surprise with Warren. It would be very creative and inspiring, garnering a ton of great publicity.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #4)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:07 AM
Person 2713 (3,263 posts)
9. I do hope so .
Response to PatSeg (Reply #4)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:12 AM
RBInMaine (13,570 posts)
11. It's not about happy dancing and it won't be Warren. She isn't ready and brings so little to it.
Not ready, no gender balance, needed in the Senate, and brings no geography or new demographics. She would be replaced with a Repuke. Not gonna happen and should not happen.
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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #11)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:25 AM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
14. The pragmatic part of me agrees with you,
but this election season has been unlike any I've seen, so I'm expecting the unexpected. And god, please don't let it be Vilsack! If it can't be Warren, Xavier Becerra would be a great choice, a real groundbreaking ticket.
Meanwhile, I can still dream of Warren. |
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #11)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:32 AM
John Poet (2,510 posts)
15. 'Gender Balance' ?! Please! Nobody ever called for 'Gender Balance' until--
--- until it was the WHITE MALES who were in danger of being left off the ticket!
Warren would solidify support among the Sanders faction, and may well bump up the vote of millennial women who aren't overly fond of Hillary. I want to see Trump get his ass kicked royally BY TWO WOMEN! That's probably the worst thing he can imagine happening to himself! What a total humiliation that would be for him! Anyway, the senate seat "loss" in Massachusetts would only be temporary, as the seat has to be filled by special election. If Joe Kennedy III is to run for it, I think we can win the special election in Massachusetts, for pete's sake. |
Response to John Poet (Reply #15)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:09 AM
awake (3,226 posts)
27. + 1000
"Gender Balance"
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Response to John Poet (Reply #15)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:31 AM
DLCWIdem (1,385 posts)
35. I was just about to post the same thing
Since forever, we have not had gender balance, its been 2 males. So 2 females on the ticket and we need gender balance.
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Response to John Poet (Reply #15)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:06 AM
hamsterjill (14,162 posts)
38. Thank you!!!!!
Gender balance, my ass.
What in the hell would be wrong with two strong, intelligent, savvy, independent women on the ticket? They each in their own right scare the hell out of the Republicans, and together, they actually just might make them shit their pants. |
Response to John Poet (Reply #15)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:01 PM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
46. Exactly
What kind of "Gender balance" have we had for the last 250 years? There is plenty of male influence throughout the government, the country can handle two women in the White House. It is only the republican fringe base that couldn't handle it and they aren't voting Democratic anyway.
We've already seen that men don't tend to get under Trump's skin, but strong women really do. It would be absolutely delicious to watch and he sure has it coming. |
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #11)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:29 PM
workinclasszero (28,270 posts)
56. There has never been any "gender balance"
in the whole history of the USA.
Why is that suddenly a "problem" if it means two women on the ticket? |
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #11)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:38 PM
Squinch (43,335 posts)
59. I think she's ready, but I agree with you on everythng else. I don't think it's Warren.
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #11)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:48 PM
chascarrillo (3,897 posts)
62. You have a problem with two women on the ticket???
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #11)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:15 PM
zenabby (364 posts)
66. This new thing called "Gender Balance"
baffles me!
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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #11)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:16 PM
zenabby (364 posts)
67. What does Trump bring?
other than energy? I think EW will bring loads of great energy, suddenly the ticket won't be boring and untrustworthy, people will look up and take notice - it's much more psychological. And imagine great history with two women on the ticket!
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #4)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:43 AM
bigwillq (72,790 posts)
42. I'd rather it be Warren over Kaine and Vilsack
But I really hope Warren stays in the Senate.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:53 AM
Southerncomfy (117 posts)
6. Warren is speaking at a Laraza event which has been planned for over a year
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:57 AM
Eric J in MN (35,612 posts)
7. I've liked Elizabeth Warren since around 2004
...when she was a guest on Al Franken's radio show talking about how the leading cause of personal bankruptcies is medical bills.
I hope she's the next VP. |
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:02 AM
mainstreetonce (4,178 posts)
8. You made me smile
Hill yes!
Hillizabeth |
Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #8)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:22 AM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
12. "Hillizabeth"
See! That alone should be good reason to pick her, it would look great on a bumper sticker.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #12)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:24 AM
lillypaddle (9,426 posts)
32. And it has a biblical ring to it ...
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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #32)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:54 AM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
45. Just imagine how many
baby girls in 2017 would be named Hillizabeth!
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:10 AM
RBInMaine (13,570 posts)
10. Warren's not ready, is needed in the Senate, and brings no purple state to the table. No.
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #10)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:33 AM
John Poet (2,510 posts)
16. Luckily, it's not your say.
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #10)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:38 AM
NewJeffCT (56,746 posts)
19. Delaware was a solid blue state
when Obama picked Joe Biden as VP.
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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #10)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:03 AM
Arkana (24,347 posts)
25. Neither did the Biden pick in 2008.
Didn't mean it wasn't a good pick.
I'd rather have her in the Senate, but arguing that she shouldn't be the choice because she's from MA is absurd. |
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #10)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:22 AM
lillypaddle (9,426 posts)
31. A lot of people
Thought Obama wasn't ready, either ... Elizabeth Warren is extremely smart and would round any learning curve quickly. Just like our President did - who, btw, is the best there ever was.
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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #10)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:25 AM
yodermon (6,142 posts)
33. "not ready" you keep saying that, what do you mean by that?
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #10)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:32 AM
Maven (10,533 posts)
36. How exactly is she "not ready"? She's not ready but TIM KAINE is?
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:23 AM
writes3000 (4,734 posts)
13. I'd love to see Clinton/Warren. Love it!
I'll get on board and fight no matter who the pick is but Warren would energize me more than the others.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:34 AM
auntpurl (4,311 posts)
17. Becerra is still my first choice, but I can definitely get behind Clinton/Warren.
Hillary will make the right choice; I have complete faith in her.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:34 AM
tallahasseedem (6,716 posts)
18. I can't...it's too stressful!!!
Wanna talk about excitement if she is chosen? A Warren/Pence debate? A Warren VP attack dog? I have to stop!!!
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Response to tallahasseedem (Reply #18)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:05 PM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
47. Oh, oh my
I hadn't even thought of that! It would be a political junkie's dream!
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
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Response to johara (Reply #20)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:12 AM
awake (3,226 posts)
28. Thats because Bill does not want her to win his ego can not take it
look at all of the things Bill did in 2008 and this last year that has hurt her campaign
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Response to johara (Reply #20)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:49 AM
Koinos (2,789 posts)
44. That could be a reason for Hillary to pick Warren.
Bill's judgment these days has been very questionable.
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Response to Koinos (Reply #44)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:07 PM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
48. I remember 2008
and Hillary really got pissed at Bill when he tried to intervene. There was something about him editing one of her speeches and she was not a happy camper.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #48)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:10 PM
Koinos (2,789 posts)
49. Strategically, why would Bill mention his choice unless he knows Hillary has someone else in mind?
Response to Koinos (Reply #49)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:17 PM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
53. Actually, I think that makes more sense
I believe they are playing with the media, which give Hillary more exposure and adds to the anticipation.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #53)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:44 PM
Koinos (2,789 posts)
61. Leaking Kaine and Vilsack may lower expectations.
Why did Bill go public with his preference?
Why did Bernie replace Warren in the keynote speaking spot? Remember that Bernie said that Hillary should choose Warren. Why did Warren ask Joe Kennedy III to introduce her (perhaps) at the convention? Joe Kennedy has already stated that if Warren is the VP pick, he would run for her senate seat. I don't think Hillary is still on the fence. I believe she has already made up her mind. Pence has a lot to do with her choice. It doesn't seem to me that all this melodrama points to Kaine. But I am probably wrong. And Hillary had one hell of a good time campaigning with Warren. I don't think I ever saw Hillary so charged up as she was at that joint appearance. But the big surprise could even be Biden. |
Response to Koinos (Reply #61)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:04 PM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
65. Whoa, you've really thought this out
That is quite impressive.
You are right, Hillary was so energized when she was on stage with Warren. I would have never thought the two would be a good fit, but fed off of each other beautifully. I'm also thinking that Hillary wants to be a historical figure as the first woman president and the first female administration would be even more exciting. As for Joe, I think he has other plans. Eight years as VP is more than enough. |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #65)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:34 PM
Koinos (2,789 posts)
70. Check out Al Giordano's line of reasoning about Hillary's VP choice.
He numbers his points and refers to them as a "trail of bread crumbs."
https://twitter.com/AlGiordano All very interesting speculation. But only speculation, of course. |
Response to Koinos (Reply #70)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:45 PM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
73. Now my head is spinning
I really had forgotten about Sherrod Brown, maybe because so few people have mentioned him. He is someone I've liked for a really long time, but I doubt he can generate the excitement that I think the campaign is going for.
I am quite sure they are playing games with us and the media. There are no accidents in Hillary world. |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #73)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:20 PM
Koinos (2,789 posts)
74. Yes, they are really playing quite a shell game.
And every pundit thinks he or she has it figured out. Lots of clues, and many of them are "head fakes."
Giordano keeps saying that Biden is the one to watch for the "tell." Biden may do or say something that sends a signal to those who know how to interpret it. I have to say, Democrats are a whole lot more professional and fun to follow than Republicans. They work together as a team, even when they choose a VP. By the way, Joseph Kennedy III is thirty-six years old and eligible to be VP as well. But let's not go there. |
Response to Koinos (Reply #74)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:45 PM
PatSeg (42,722 posts)
75. Oh yes
Democrats are much better at all this. They just need to improve their messaging. They tend to make everything too complicated and nuanced for the average voter.
That brings us back to Elizabeth Warren. She can explain complex economics in a way that anyone can understand AND actually enjoy it. She would be a great "explainer". Her teaching skills are exceptional. Bill Clinton has "the gift", but best to keep him in the background this time around. |
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:55 AM
jcgoldie (9,062 posts)
22. I'm with Her and Her nt
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:57 AM
OnDoutside (19,149 posts)
23. As conspiracy theories go, I like it !
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:59 AM
AgadorSparticus (7,963 posts)
24. I hope you're right! You bring up really good points.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:08 AM
still_one (84,189 posts)
26. That would destroy the talking idiots for a loop. Their assessment would be wrong again. I think
the two would be a power house
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:19 AM
lillypaddle (9,426 posts)
29. Oh Please! Oh Please!
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:21 AM
yallerdawg (16,104 posts)
30. If Hillary gets Elizabeth as her VP pick...
we will be one united Democratic Party for sure!
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:28 AM
MineralMan (144,022 posts)
34. That is very interesting, indeed.
I'm holding my breath in anticipation. Hillary will choose whoever she wishes, but Warren would be a good choice, especially given the ugliness the Republicans are putting forward.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:33 AM
awake (3,226 posts)
37. Please Please be so
Elizabeth is the best pick, just watch how all of the other choices for VP did when they campaigned with Hillary, only Elizabeth fired up the crowd, Hillary even felt more comfortable on stage with Elizabeth. Elizabeth is the only person to to have been able to throw Trump off his game. Elizabeth will be the attack dog and Hillary will stay above the fray sticking to the high road.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:13 AM
kwolf68 (6,964 posts)
39. Yes love Liz
Doubt it'll be her, but what a gutsy move by Hillary if it is. And I'd be in like flynn. |
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:36 AM
retrowire (10,345 posts)
40. it better be warren.
It's important to me as a Bernie supporter that Hillary chooses a veep that does NOT take kindly to wall st.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:41 AM
groundloop (10,474 posts)
41. I know Warren would be great, but IMO she can do more good in the Senate
I have nothing whatsoever against Elizabeth Warren, I'll support her 100% at whatever she decides to do, but the pragmatic side of me says that she should stay in the Senate and move into a leadership role there when we retake it. |
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 11:46 AM
Expecting Rain (811 posts)
43. I'm lighting candles
Please. Please. Please.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:13 PM
SDJay (1,089 posts)
50. Just My Gut...
but IMO if it's Warren the election will be such an ass-kicking up and down the ticket that the temporary loss of her seat in MA for at-most 160 days would be more than counterbalanced with taking back the senate and perhaps even the house along with a bunch of state-level seats.
In other words, naming Warren could possibly do more good 'for' the senate than she would do in it. |
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:16 PM
liberal N proud (59,198 posts)
51. That would be another shame on the media as they are chasing 3 different candidates
I think we will know by noon on Friday.
Steal the Trump post convention thunder which may be more like a belly flop in Lake Erie. |
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:17 PM
KPN (13,679 posts)
52. Maybe they'll meet on the tarmac.
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:20 PM
B Calm (28,762 posts)
54. The party would be united if she does choose her!
Response to B Calm (Reply #54)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:33 PM
jcgoldie (9,062 posts)
58. Right
And after watching the RNC shitshow in Cleveland unfold, party unity has to look pretty nice.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:20 PM
workinclasszero (28,270 posts)
55. Hmm.....
Coincidence or...?
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:32 PM
Setsuna1972 (332 posts)
57. Please let it be so
Or Senator Brown from Ohio ! Brown would be another kick right on the teeth after Trump totally disrespecting Ohio !
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:50 PM
Demsrule86 (60,248 posts)
63. That would be so awesome...nt
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:52 PM
whistler162 (10,891 posts)
64. But, Florida is where Admiral Starvidis is from
Response to whistler162 (Reply #64)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:17 PM
State the Obvious (815 posts)
76. AGREE!
After seeing his TED Talk on the many facets of global security, I though he would be an excellent choice. Hillary wants a VP capable of leading the country through a crisis if she could not. In his video, he uses the phrase "build bridges, not walls" which is an expression Hillary often uses as well. Check out this video (and read his bio). He has more to offer than you think.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:23 PM
zenabby (364 posts)
68. Why does Hillary need a general?
She is already considered a Hawk and she has tons of foreign policy experience. She has repeatedly said this person should be able to step up to be president - the General has that capacity? She needs a strong energizing domestic policy expert - Warren or Baccerra would be best option imho.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:28 PM
Orsino (37,428 posts)
69. That would raise my enthusiasm.
Trump and Pence are going to be generating daily gaffes, but in a campaign against two women those gaffes are going to be more immediately and painfully obvious.
I would like to see two old white dumbass dudes lose to a pair of women with actual qualifications. |
Response to Orsino (Reply #69)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:51 PM
democrattotheend (11,585 posts)
71. Mine too
I am going to support Hillary no matter what, but I will be a lot more enthused if she picks someone like Warren, Sherrod Brown, or Tom Perez than someone like Kaine or Vilsack.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:01 PM
ismnotwasm (40,660 posts)
72. I want it to be Warren, or part of me does
But I understand the reasons not. Every time I consider this ticket, though, I feel positively euphoric.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:45 PM
Qutzupalotl (12,775 posts)
77. That would be an exciting ticket!
I can't wait for the Warren/Pence debate.
![]() Link: http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/hillary-clinton-and-elizabeth-warren-will-both-be-in-florida-this-weekend/25327/ I'd also be happy with Gavin Newsom or Sherrod Brown. But Warren would bring a lot of Bernie supporters back. Picking her would also keep the TPP off the table (unless it gets rammed through in the lame duck session). |
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:47 PM
Tatiana (14,167 posts)
78. I hope it's Warren, but if not, I hope it's someone like Al Franken. n/t
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:14 PM
The empressof all (29,009 posts)
79. Oh Jeeze...Don't Fricken do this to Me!
My eyes started welling up! My heart started pounding.......If this happens you will hear this Bernie supporter screaming in joy to Kingdom Come....
But once again....I fear...I will just be left with that nagging empty space Gaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh |
Response to riversedge (Original post)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:36 PM
forgotmylogin (7,030 posts)
80. Wicked.
Two witches, one perceived as "good" and the other perceived as "wicked" conspire to overthrow the dim witted manipulator and manipulated "Wizard of Oz" in his crusade to dumb down talking animals so they become a subservient underclass like he knows them from his original homeland.
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