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While we wait, what is your gut telling you? (Original Post) KMOD Jul 2016 OP
the progressive base will be dissapointed rurallib Jul 2016 #1
Why? We got Clinton. Her platfom is excellent and progressive. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #5
Her platform, yes democrattotheend Jul 2016 #52
Her record is progressive as well. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #54
I would say she is reasonably progressive democrattotheend Jul 2016 #58
Overall, I agree. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #59
I think Warren would be there today without issue. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #2
While I would love to think you are right what leads you to this conclusion? awake Jul 2016 #3
just a gut feeling. KMOD Jul 2016 #7
I hope your gut is right and it is not just gas awake Jul 2016 #9
lol KMOD Jul 2016 #11
Me too, but I think it's Kaine just because DC Hortensis Jul 2016 #27
My gut is telling me I don't know! emulatorloo Jul 2016 #4
I would love it to be someone else but Kaine just to stick it to the press awake Jul 2016 #10
You and me both! emulatorloo Jul 2016 #16
My gut is telling me not to eat Mexican food for lunch... brooklynite Jul 2016 #6
Is that the sort of thing Tim Kaine says in Spanish to win Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #61
I have no idea. But I trust her to decide wisely, and will support her choice. kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #8
I do, too. KMOD Jul 2016 #15
I felt very hopeful about Warren because she is also in FL today. femmocrat Jul 2016 #12
Andrea always does that. KMOD Jul 2016 #17
Andrea's mission in life is to piss in Dem's cornflakes lol emulatorloo Jul 2016 #20
True. Didn't realize Warren was in Florida, but Hortensis Jul 2016 #31
I'm hoping it's the one whos campaign works together & the one who has been attacking trum Sunlei Jul 2016 #13
Possible deathrind Jul 2016 #14
I just bought some bumper stickers and signed up for Hillary for America texts Freddie Jul 2016 #18
I thought it was decided BainsBane Jul 2016 #19
I know, right? KMOD Jul 2016 #21
rule of thumb: if DU's collective hair is on fire about something, most likely it won't happen. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #22
Excellent rule of thumb. BainsBane Jul 2016 #45
Between Kaine and Warren tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #23
I think it will be Kaine to cement VA in the GE plus he is fluent in Spanish which is also an asset. KewlKat Jul 2016 #24
Weirdly, white women may be the key demographic in this campaign... bring on Warren please JCMach1 Jul 2016 #25
My gut tells me Hillary will select a well qualified individual who will help her beat Trump liberal N proud Jul 2016 #26
My gut tells me that the GOP is reprehensible and will do anything needed to win this election. StevieM Jul 2016 #28
My gut WANTS Warren ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #29
Me, too. KMOD Jul 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author johara Jul 2016 #30
Yup MFM008 Jul 2016 #40
As a Virginian I'll say you can't go much further left and get elected here than Kaine Va Lefty Jul 2016 #32
As a former Virginian, I agree democrattotheend Jul 2016 #53
Pref is Warren , Booker or Becerra second but anyone besides Vilsack is ok Person 2713 Jul 2016 #33
Mut gut is no more accurate in foretelling the future than the entrails of a goat. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #34
They will be in Florida together. nt Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #35
someone not on the list...nt asuhornets Jul 2016 #37
I just hope it's not Vilsack.Or Kaine. I think I'm screwed, tho, because those seem to be the catbyte Jul 2016 #38
My gut is telling me liberalmuse Jul 2016 #39
"Feeeed meeeee." DavidDvorkin Jul 2016 #41
My gut says Kaine MrScorpio Jul 2016 #42
A qualified Democrat. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #43
On Colbert last night, Warren said it wasn't her. Avalux Jul 2016 #44
That's funny. KMOD Jul 2016 #48
It was hilarious. Avalux Jul 2016 #51
Mine is telling me that it's really glad I finally ate lunch. MineralMan Jul 2016 #46
Lol. Mine's telling me I can't expect it to sort Hortensis Jul 2016 #57
My gut is telling me that this is a bad news cycle for the release. sufrommich Jul 2016 #47
Yeah, KMOD Jul 2016 #50
My gut tells me the earth will continue to rotate MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #49
I want Warren. My gut says Warren. Clinton would work very well with Warren. joshcryer Jul 2016 #55
It'll be Kaine or Vilsack nemo137 Jul 2016 #56
Probabilities is my forte and Kaine is the most probable running mate. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #60
How is Kaine a foreign policy choice? Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #62
Because he is on the Foreign Relations Committee DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #63
read on twitter EW was in Orlando ! and Kaine in Boston Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2016 #64
The gut says Kaine. Tatiana Jul 2016 #65

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
52. Her platform, yes
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jul 2016

Her record, not so much. And picking a centrist VP only heightens suspicions that she is not truly committed to all of the progressive planks of the platform.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
54. Her record is progressive as well.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jul 2016

The only people to not recognize that are the people who are a part of the one and done crowd. Interesting that they are never one and done with respect to some of the more egregious missteps of the candidate they support.

Clinton has decades of progressive accomplishments. Yes, there are numerous shit sandwiches in there as well. So did all of our candidates. Unicorns are for children's TV shows.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
58. I would say she is reasonably progressive
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jul 2016

I think she is definitely more progressive than her husband, especially on domestic issues. But on foreign policy I would not describe her as progressive. This is based on her record as Secretary of State and the positions she has taken in this election, not just on her enthusiastic support for the Iraq War authorization 14 years ago. She did a lot of good things as Secretary of State, but her foreign policy outlook is more hawkish than I am comfortable with. That said, I trust her to have access to the nuclear launch codes a lot more than I trust Trump!

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
59. Overall, I agree.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:20 PM
Jul 2016

You just hit on my Clinton concern and stated in a very similar way that I have in the past.

Thanks for the thoughtful post.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Me too, but I think it's Kaine just because DC
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jul 2016

insiders are narrowing in on him. Kaine is a white male, and we need the white male leaners, he should bring swing state Virginia and help with the large Hispanic bloc, and he has an excellent reputation and good moderate-liberal progressive credentials. Those last are very real, even if some on the farther left reject him out of hand.

emulatorloo

(43,864 posts)
4. My gut is telling me I don't know!
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jul 2016

I want Warren as well. I can live with the others. I know press has declared it will be Kaine, but they have been known to get things wrong.

brooklynite

(93,320 posts)
6. My gut is telling me not to eat Mexican food for lunch...
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jul 2016

As for political analysis, I'll still to hard data.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
8. I have no idea. But I trust her to decide wisely, and will support her choice.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jul 2016

I'm not going to stress over it in the meantime. All my energy goes to fighting Drumpfler.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
12. I felt very hopeful about Warren because she is also in FL today.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jul 2016

But then Andrea Mitchell peed in my cornflakes by saying it would be Kaine.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. True. Didn't realize Warren was in Florida, but
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jul 2016

if so why wouldn't they do a joint-appearance announcement today? Oh, well. I'm with Kestrel.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. I'm hoping it's the one whos campaign works together & the one who has been attacking trum
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jul 2016

one who has been attacking trump constantly these past several days.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
14. Possible
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jul 2016

But I hope not.

Senator Warren is much more effective in the position she is currently in. Plus Mass currently has a Republican governor so it would be more than likely a republican (remember Scott Brown...) would be appointed to replace her in the Senate.

Freddie

(9,212 posts)
18. I just bought some bumper stickers and signed up for Hillary for America texts
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jul 2016

So I will be among the first to know? Going shopping now and I will set my text alert to ding.

BainsBane

(52,992 posts)
19. I thought it was decided
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jul 2016

based on reading DU. Then I saw your thread and checked actual news coverage. It hasn't been. I should have known better. I do know better; I forgot.

KewlKat

(5,621 posts)
24. I think it will be Kaine to cement VA in the GE plus he is fluent in Spanish which is also an asset.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jul 2016

I'd love it to be Warren but don't think it will be.........sadly.......but again. Let's get the ticket and get out the vote for her!!!!

JCMach1

(27,529 posts)
25. Weirdly, white women may be the key demographic in this campaign... bring on Warren please
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jul 2016

for that reason and many others.

StevieM

(10,498 posts)
28. My gut tells me that the GOP is reprehensible and will do anything needed to win this election.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jul 2016

Whoever she picks, we will have a tough fight ahead.

ismnotwasm

(41,861 posts)
29. My gut WANTS Warren
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jul 2016

I will be satisfied with Kaine, for the same reasons I was satisfied with Biden. Not my first pick though.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
36. Me, too.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jul 2016

I'll be happy with whoever she picks. I'm just not feeling it with Kaine. But again, it's just my gut.

Response to KMOD (Original post)

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
32. As a Virginian I'll say you can't go much further left and get elected here than Kaine
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jul 2016

He's about as good a US Senator as we can get in Va. That being said I hope it's Warren or Perez

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
53. As a former Virginian, I agree
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jul 2016

Kaine is not my first choice - my first choices are also Warren and Perez. But Kaine is not a terrible choice. He is reasonably progressive, certainly not a DINO.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
34. Mut gut is no more accurate in foretelling the future than the entrails of a goat.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jul 2016

or a crystal ball.

I await an unveiling of the news. I am fine with whoever she picks. Trump is unacceptable in any universe.

catbyte

(34,024 posts)
38. I just hope it's not Vilsack.Or Kaine. I think I'm screwed, tho, because those seem to be the
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jul 2016

front runners, unfortunately. Meh, it really doesn't matter who Clinton chooses. I'd vote for her if she chose Alfred E. Newman.

liberalmuse

(18,667 posts)
39. My gut is telling me
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jul 2016

Whoever it is, he/ she will grow on us quickly like Biden did. Biden wasn't my first choice but I can't imagine a better pick and of course now I absolutely love the guy!

MrScorpio

(73,604 posts)
42. My gut says Kaine
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jul 2016

Besides, I'd rather have Warren stay in the Senate, where she can keep her own voice instead being second fiddle for any administration.

Tommy_Carcetti

(42,992 posts)
43. A qualified Democrat.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jul 2016

That's all I need, and all I care about. Elizabeth Warren would be great, but I'm perfectly fine with Tim Kaine.

Given events on the other side of the aisle, I'm not going to play choosy over our Number 2.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
44. On Colbert last night, Warren said it wasn't her.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jul 2016

But then Colbert ripped the "I" off of the VIP on her dressing room door after she closed it, and then giggled. So who knows!

I would be happy if it ends up being her. My gut - Hillary will play it safe with Kaine.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
51. It was hilarious.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jul 2016

She was a guest last night, along with Jon Stewart who 'stole' Colbert's desk so he could rant about the RNC/Trump. It was a great show, watch the clips on youtube if you can.

MineralMan

(146,062 posts)
46. Mine is telling me that it's really glad I finally ate lunch.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jul 2016

It was grumbling at me earlier. It also told me that I shouldn't eat more than one burrito at a sitting. Someday, I'll listen, I suppose.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
57. Lol. Mine's telling me I can't expect it to sort
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jul 2016

all these conflicting messages out if I'm going to fill it with salsa and Klondike bars. A burrito sounds good...

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
47. My gut is telling me that this is a bad news cycle for the release.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jul 2016

Of course,they couldn't have known ahead of time that there'd be a terrorist attack.

joshcryer

(62,260 posts)
55. I want Warren. My gut says Warren. Clinton would work very well with Warren.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jul 2016

But probably Kaine given the rumors.

nemo137

(3,297 posts)
56. It'll be Kaine or Vilsack
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jul 2016

The Dem party as a whole hasn't figured out that it's coalition looks different than it did in the 90s, and thinks it needs a conventional, personally-religious, bland, technocratic white guy on the ticket to keep imagined suburban white-collar voters from bolting.

I'd prefer Perez, as I've said here before, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,680 posts)
60. Probabilities is my forte and Kaine is the most probable running mate.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jul 2016

World events only make it more likely she takes a running mate with foreign policy experience.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,680 posts)
63. Because he is on the Foreign Relations Committee
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jul 2016

All signs point to Hillary Clinton choosing him. That is an empirical observation and not a normative one.

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