Meanwhile...Over in Trumpistan...

[JaneyVee]

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/crooked-hillary-and-corrupt-kaine/

They're now using actual Trump campaign propaganda. "Crooked Hillary" and "Corrupt Kaine" are literally Trump phrases. He literally just tweeted those words.

This isnt cool. We were played. Honestly, its a bit fucked up. We spent years engaging in debate with them, trying to find common ground with them, offering kind words when they were angry or upset, etc. Jeez, I even see names there of people I've actually donated money to when they claimed on DU they fell on hard times. Despite minor policy differences, I thought they were our allies. It was all a sham. And Skinner, EarlG, Elad et al, welcomed them and their views with open arms, as we all did, and this is how they repay us, by ripping off DU with a shitty prototype website used to help Trump win the nomination? They are not progressives, they are bitter angry anarchists, disruptors, cynics, and authoritarian agent provocateurs. How do I know? Because Progressives build, anarchists destroy. I know they arent progressives because ACTUAL progressives (see: Liz Warren, Sherrod Brown, Bernie Sanders, etc.) are actually voting for Hillary. They are just anonymous internet posters who would rather destroy out of vindictiveness than ally with the candidate who has overwhelming support of every marginalized demographic in America. We must stay anchored in optimism. I'm grateful for DU and the open minded pragmatism here.

[Maven]

1. There's one poster there who got big DU recs when he posted an "apology" thread here

What many DUers probably don't know is that he then went to JPR and posted an apology thread...apologizing for his apology on DU!

And today he's posted a "fuck her, I'm done" thread in response to the Kaine pick.

[Squinch]

18. Ugh! That obnoxious child! So entitled, so arrogant, so ignorant!

[Demsrule86]

26. I am going to find that thread and delete my apology F him and all of them.nt

[redstateblues]

2. I dropped in there for a few minutes to see

What a few of our former DU posters were up to. It's funny but they are the same miserable folks who used to complain about everything. There are even a few that are still counting on Bernie to win the nomination! It's like a bunch of unhappy campers shaking their fists at the sun because it's too hot. Makes me appreciate DU.

[rjsquirrel]

3. I really think they are best ignored

They're a tiny irrelevant fringe who never were going to support any common cause, angry ideological purists who literally survive by creating and stoking drama, much like Trump himself does.

Ignore them. They'll shout themselves hoarse the way they used to, with no one listening.

[JaneyVee]

6. And then they play the victim...

As if they were purged from here instead of voluntarily leaving. 99% of them still have accounts here. Its not open minded to run from any debate and resort to an echo chamber.

[Qutzupalotl]

7. DU is also an echo chamber.

We are not allowed to criticize Democrats lest we be seen as bashing. They might argue that they left DU because it became an echo chamber. So I guess it comes down to whom you want to hang out with.

[JaneyVee]

11. Sure, it's a Democratic echo chamber, but...

Democrats are a big tent party and offer plenty of varying views. Go over there and say something nice about Democrats and get bounced. My complaint is they are not nor ever have been allies.

[greatauntoftriplets]

13. Or objecting to the use of the "c" word.

[Demsrule86]

27. No it does not.

This is an election year and promoting Trump are you kidding? They are and were not progressive.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

37. Heh. DU may be an echo chamber, but not because it's too moderate

This site is still where the lefty left of the party congregate. No one should even dare mention here that 58% of Democrats believe that free trade agreements are good for the country.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[LuvLoogie]

4. K&R! Sulking, double-dipping, brought-no-beer, party crashers...

and they clogged the toilet.

[MohRokTah]

5. Jackass Laughingstocks...

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

[pangaia]

9. LOL

[panader0]

12. yeah, that one was a little over the top.....

[pangaia]

15. Thats not the only one

🙄

[liberal N proud]

8. When all 5 out can offer is fear and hate

All you can do is double down.

[mcar]

10. How sad

[Cali_Democrat]

14. They're all for Trump

The masks have slipped.

I tried to tell people here, but many didn't listen.

Now it's there for all to see.

[JaneyVee]

21. Some of them arent even trying to hide it.

That place has become infested with rwnjs from discussionist and they are all united by hate.

[Andy823]

46. And now they are moving back in here

To cause more problems.

[mopinko]

16. oh look. my ignore list lives.

[Squinch]

20. Lol! Exactly!

[MoonRiver]

17. How sad to be so bitter and angry.

[Squinch]

19. Most of them are true idiots, but that name is a disappointment.

[RonniePudding]

22. That place reeks of sour grapes, petuli and feet.

I see the amublancedrivermountainclimberunpollwatchercrusaderfortruth
comiconnsaspottingwindturbinefearingcancerclusterbeleivingblogger
is all a flutter over Wikileaks. It's like catnip.

[fun n serious]

23. It's all lies so just ignore it.

Kaine is not corrupt! I am excited about Hillary and super happy she was able to pick who she wanted and not what someone else wanted. They never intended to vote for Hillary. They just want a reason to rail against her and found something new.

[Hortensis]

38. Yes. I feel really good about us.

As for that nasty little sewer that mostly exists to obsess about DU, why do we care? A whole pack have been banned for coming back and acting out. MIRT has its eyes out for them. Frankly, I'd send them all coupons for free psychiatric consults if I had some because I'm sure some really need them, but that's not possible.

[fun n serious]

39. I thought

Tim Kaine's civil rights experience would win them over but they were gone no matter who was VP.

[Hortensis]

41. Shrug. :) Honestly, I didn't, Fun N Serious.

For some their anti-Democrat enmity is part of who they are, a major feature of their ideology, and they can't just shuck it. Of course our happiness at an obviously successful pairing makes them mad. Not wanting Trump doesn't mean they don't also hate that we're going to win again.

Others are just too resentful over real and imagined slights. There is absolutely nothing people on social media, or even neighbors, could do that would affect my vote, no matter how offensive. I vote issues and ideals. But it's very common over there for people to claim they'll never vote Democrat "again" because of the way some faceless people on a forum treated them.

That said, there are people there who are more sensible if still antagonistic, and others who will also come around and vote responsibly enough. They're not all too silly, extremist, and/or malicious to bother with.

[Red Mountain]

24. I see one post and 3 replies

Must we paint with such a broad brush?

How does that benefit Hillary in the general?

[Demsrule86]

28. They are supporting Trump and attacking the Democratic nominee and this site.

Why do you want to give them a pass? They need to be called out.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. They are never going to support Hillary

They are every bit my enemy as those who post at free republic, the Conservative Cave, and stormfront.

[Red Mountain]

25. Which is to say putting too much stock in a

lightly moderated website is a mistake.

Don't like the rhetoric over there? Join and argue.

I don't really believe anybody is who they say they are online.

I know Trump thinks he can attract some Sanders voters.

So it's not such a stretch to imagine paid trump supporters doing their thing over there.

Or maybe some of them really hate Hillary.

The election MIGHT weed out a few of the paid ones if they really are.

Time will tell?

[SCantiGOP]

29. I knew, most of us knew

That many of them were trolls, and no doubt that many of them were/are paid to disrupt and spread misinformation.

[SunSeeker]

30. Thanks for letting us know what's going on in that cess pool.

However, I would prefer people not post links to that place. We shouldn't be giving them any clicks.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. Is that the ersatz MRA site?

[zappaman]

32. pinebaggerz are always good for a laugh

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. I hope none of them show their ugly faces here.

[Jopin Klobe]

34. Trumpistan ... indeed ...

... just to recap the pertinent points of this "discussion" among so-called progressives about Progressives ...

So entitled, so arrogant, so ignorant ... F him and all of them ... miserable folks ... tiny irrelevant fringe ... they clogged the toilet ... Jackass Laughingstocks ... wretched hive of scum and villainy ... They're all for Trump ... rwnjs from discussionist and they are all united by hate ... bitter and angry ... true idiots ... It's all lies ... supporting Trump and attacking the Democratic nominee ... trolls ...

... it's like "The Voice" ...

... it doesn't matter what they look like ...

... it's how they sound that matters ...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. flotsam and jetsam

[Squinch]

43. Correction: those people at JPR are not progressives by any stretch of the imagination.

Thanks for the stroll down memory lane.

[JaneyVee]

45. Always the victims.

[grossproffit]

40. I'm heartbroken to learn that we were posting w/ white nationalists that were posing as Democrats.

[Scurrilous]

42. Nihilist nitwits.

They'll tire of that place soon and be back here after Hillary's election w/ new names and the same old complaints.

[Native]

44. 1864 Members - not enough to concern me. Fuck 'em.

[Doctor Jack]

47. The people that are left there have likely never voted for a democrat in their lives

They almost certainly voted for Jill Stein in 2012 and Cynthia McKinney in 2008. Obama was probably too much of a conservative for them and was no different than McCain or Romney.

[okasha]

48. All you need to know about that site

is that HawkeyeX posts there.

[brooklynboy49]

49. "Open Minded"

Now THAT'S funny!

[randome]

50. A lot of Jill Stein posts over there. Losers supporting losers. Should that be a surprise?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.[/center][/font][hr]

[guillaumeb]

51. A mind reader?

Is there no room in your world for difference of opinion?

How about civility?