Sanders Team Wanted DNC To Pay For Private Plane For Fall ~ (GD 16)

[Her Sister]

Oops. Sanders staffer leaves an internal memo in a restaurant, which makes its way to the press. Plans for fall campaign include asking DNC to pay for private plane for Bernie to fly around and conduct rallies.

An internal “End Game” memo left in a Los Angeles hotel restaurant details extraordinary demands considered by the Sanders campaign ahead of the Democrats’ unity event.

PHILADELPHIA — The Bernie Sanders campaign considered demanding a private plane staffed and funded by the Democratic National Committee as part of negotiations with Hillary Clinton heading into this week’s convention, according to a Sanders memo obtained by BuzzFeed News.


The plane was to be used “for a series of fall rallies in battleground states,” according to the “Bernie 2016” memo, which was drafted in the days before Sanders’ sound defeat in the June 7 California primary, the contest that effectively ended his insurgent bid.


“This plane would be paid for by the DNC,” it reads.

The document reveals a campaign in its final days, considering whether to fight on with a “divisive critique” of Clinton, yet attuned to diminished influence inside the party.


Aides believed a tour of the battleground states would help keep Sanders center stage. The memo, titled “End Game,” also suggests that the Vermont senator’s campaign for Senate Democrats to “help deliver a majority and take credit for it” — one of several references throughout the four-page document showing the extent to which aides remained aware of opportunities to take “credit” amid decreasing “leverage.”

Much more in link: https://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/bernie-sanders-private-plane?utm_term=.tyxDkoRW6#.guZ2VG8Zw

[Cha]

1. Thank you for this, HS!

[DemonGoddess]

3. jeebus

[Her Sister]

4. Demon Goddess! I just posted the beginning.... Recommend reading the rest

[DemonGoddess]

77. oh I did

and what I think of all this is, quite frankly, not postable.

[glennward]

5. Oh, my, my, my.

Not even Wikileaks either.

[99th_Monkey]

6. I see nothing particularly damning about this.

If Hills expects Sanders to stump hard for her, it's a reasonable request.

Hillary flew on her private jets for the entire primary campaign.

[RonniePudding]

8. The difference is Hillary's campaign was paying for the jet.

Bernie is asking for someone else to pay for it. That being said, it's a perfectly reasonable request. What do people expect him to do, fly commercial? That's not ideal in a campaign where you have to get to a lot of places in a short time.

[Her Sister]

9. LOL!

[merrily]

29. Each campaign paid for its own transportation. The difference is Sanders will be campaigning for

Hillary, as and the DNC very much want him to do.

[RonniePudding]

31. Right

but the poster i was replying to was talking about how hillary took private planes during the primary.

I'm well aware of how it works in the general.

Thanks.

[merrily]

42. I think that poster was only making the point that flying private while campaigning is SOP.

I was not trying to imply you don't know how a general works. Of course you do.

[democrattotheend]

53. Didn't Obama's campaign pay for Clinton's transportation to stump for him in 2008?

Isn't that pretty standard for campaigns to cover the cost to transport surrogates?

[B Calm]

71. Bingo! Haven't they tried to discredit Bernie enough already!

[okasha]

20. A private plane is pretty much

a necessity with a Secret Service entourage. Nobody wants to sit across the aisle from a guy with a sniper rifle.

[leftynyc]

82. Bernie no longer has

secret service protection.

[okasha]

83. I was responding to post #6.

Still, a small business jet is not unreasonable if his schedule is heavy.

[secondwind]

65. I agree with you 100%

[treestar]

74. Bernie was such a man of the people who flew commercial

I don't care about it, but the hypocrisy is stunning. You'd be making a lot of this if it were Hillary.

[democrattotheend]

75. Not really.

I am pretty sure the Obama campaign provided a private plane (or covered the cost of using one) for Hillary when she stumped for him in 2008. They would have had to, since she had $15 million in campaign debt already. I don't see the big deal here.

It is probably harder for Bernie to fly commercial right now than it used to be because he is a lot better known.

[treestar]

80. OK

So it would not be a scandal if Hillary asked for it either. Interesting.

[democrattotheend]

81. I am pretty sure she did ask for it in 2008

And I don't recall it being a scandal.

[JaneyVee]

7. Dear fellow HRC supporters...

The primaries are over, Hillary has won a decisive victory, it is now time to extend an olive branch to our fellow progressives and unite. I do not want my children, your children, or any child to grow up in Trump's dystopian America.

[NWCorona]

10. Thank you!

The primaries are over and Trump is the target.

[glennward]

12. YES! Now can we get an AMEN from Bernie supporters? nt

[strategery blunder]

26. Bernie supporter here, and to put things in perspective,

My presidential preference at the end of the primary, in ranked order:

1. Bernie Sanders
2. Martin O'Malley
3. Hillary Clinton

(insert any of about 330 million Americans here)

330,000,004. Donald Trump





Yes I will happily vote for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump in November

[merrily]

30. No Bernie supporter started this thread.

[glennward]

11. So this is just coming out now? These journalists held this back until now for what reason?

Does this pass the smell test?

[BlueCaliDem]

34. Divide and conquer. eom

[stevenleser]

13. I didn't see anything wrong with what DWS said in emails and I honestly don't see anything wrong

with this either. If Bernie is campaigning for Hillary, I say give this to him.

[zenabby]

14. I would like bygones to be bygones

However, since the email by DNC was brought up - you don't see anythng wrong with "so that Sen. Sanders can claim credit for victory and energize his movement"? This was more to energize the movement, nothing about it says for making Hillary win.

[stevenleser]

17. It's wishful thinking on their part. No movement and little elevated profile for Sanders is

forthcoming. The latter could change if he is named to a position in her cabinet.

[OhioBlue]

19. No, there is nothing wrong with it in context

It was written by his staff. An internal memo for his campaign. Their loyalty had been to Bernie and their fiduciary duty had been to him. They were in transition.

[merrily]

32. Which victory did Sanders claim credit for? Which emails did Sanders provide wikileaks?

[LisaM]

78. Exactly.

They want to keep him front and center and have him take credit for the victory.

[calimary]

73. What I thought was important and that's pretty much been overlooked is

how they were evidently talking about this, kicking these ideas around, and then decided against it.

It was oppositional research they were looking at. And every campaign does it. And you've gotta know the CONS were doing it on BOTH our candidates, just zeroing in on ONE, now.

And I'm one of those who is really strongly suspicious about the reason this all was leaked - NOW - gee, by Russian hackers? Gee, and Putin and Trump have this weird mutual admiration society going? And Paul Manafort worked for a Ukrainian Putin-puppet before coming aboard with The Donald? Hmmmm... There's just a little bit too much of a coincidence working here. The timing is just a little bit too fishy. Sorry. I'm not usually given to conspiracies. But this just smells.

[flamingdem]

15. Pay for it, we need the Bernie supporters

to get out and vote!

[NWCorona]

16. I understand the need to vent but I don't see what the problem is here

When everyone was screaming that Bernie has a massive ego. His team was working on a memo called "endgame" meaning it's over.

I don't think requesting a private plane is absurd.

[SaschaHM]

27. "End Game" didn't mean just giving up to them...

as the memo broadly outlines how they would fight for the nomination on the floor.

[merrily]

36. Sanders did not write the memo, nor is he urging a floor fight. This is grasping at straws.

[SaschaHM]

56. How is this grasping?

When the memo was written Sanders was still publicly committed to fighting on to the convention. He changed his tune after CA, yes.

[merrily]

58. That was all discussed on DU as it happened and he's not doing anything like that.

The need to fan the flames again today, long after the fact, seems like some need to keep the primary fights alive for whatever reason.

[NWCorona]

45. I believe multiple scenarios and strategies were laid out.

Where are we now tho?

[merrily]

33. Agree, but do we even know for certain that his team prepared this memo?

He 74, lives in Vermont and still has Senate responsibilities in DC. If he is going to be criscrossing the country to campaign for Hillary, as the DNC wishes, he will need staffers with him and should be able to bring family with him, if he wishes. A private plane. I am sure anyone else in his position being asked to do the same thing would get one.

[NWCorona]

47. Yeah I'm not necessarily buying that this is authentic but I'm not gonna

Let a narrative build if you know what I mean.

[merrily]

50. I do.

[OhioBlue]

18. These are not "extraordinary demands". This is how party unity

starts. The Sanders campaign is/was transitioning from the primary to helping in the general. I would guess many candidates that lose in a primary and are expected to stump for the winning candidate and/or other down ticket candidates have written many similar memos. Bernie does have a lot of popularity and for him to continue to campaign for the ticket and down ticket especially with younger voters is an asset for the party, not something to be mocked or used against him or his campaign.

[msongs]

21. seems like paying for these flights would be standard procedure. could be wrong tho. nt

[SunSeeker]

22. K & R

[aikoaiko]

23. Well? Did he get it? Go, Bernie, go!

[SaschaHM]

24. I mean...

They've been underselling his ability to bring supporters into the fold to get concessions for weeks. I don't see the use of a private plane for a guy that can't corral his movement into supporting the nominee. Waste of resources. Give the plane to Elizabeth Warren.

[OhioBlue]

38. It isn't a waste of resources

Most Bernie supporters are supporting HRC. He will be important especially with the young voters who may have never cast a vote before they voted for him and might be inclined to sit out or vote 3rd party. He can bring them to the ticket. There will be many surrogates. It isn't an either/or scenario. On a national level, I see BHO and Bernie as the two most important.

[DLCWIdem]

84. well not the Bernie supporyers who are now protesting down the street or

The ones who are supposed to be chanting "lock her up".

[merrily]

40. Warren will get one anyway. And, even if Sanders does not bring in every single one

of his millions of supporters, Hillary and the DNC seem happy about his support and him to campaign. I'm not sure why anyone thinks a private plane to use when he is campaigning for Hillary is too much to ask.

[fun n serious]

25. I think he is worth a plane

It's a great idea IF he can make the case for Hillary's platform and not his own

[SunSeeker]

66. Yep. nt

[merrily]

28. A memo supposedly left in a diner, just made public today? Hmmm.

Asking for a plane to use when he campaigns for Hillary this fall, as she and the DNC want him to do? Hmmm

[bluedye33139]

35. Strategy: disqualify Clinton pledged delegates

"The effort to construct a Sanders majority could require disqualifying a number of delegates."

[merrily]

37. Do you think that is Sanders' plan?

[bluedye33139]

39. I'm simply pulling a quote from a memo

At first glance, it appears to be an investigation of possibilities rather than a cogent plan. It only shows that right before the California primary, the campaign was evaluating its options.

[merrily]

41. Yes. And?

[bluedye33139]

43. On the Eve

On the eve of the California primary, the Sanders campaign was toying with the idea of disqualifying Clinton delegates. Likely this is one reason why the campaign beat the drum so loudly alleging fraud in every single ballot count.

As fate would have it, the California defeat was insurmountable.

Traditionally, "And?" indicates an emotional tone. You post a question. And?

[merrily]

46. I disagree with your comment about the campaign beating the drum loudly and why. That said,

and? is a question, yes.

First, we don't even know yet if the campaign even actually prepared this memo, but let's assume a Sanders campaign staffer did prepare it, though

You said the campaign prepared a memo assessing its options. The reason I asked a question is that I am sure campaign staffers in every campaign are constantly preparing memos assessing status and options. I don't attach any significance to that. So, I wanted to understand your point in saying that. I don't understand your comment about emotion, but that's okay. I don't need to.

[bluedye33139]

48. Disagreement is wonderful

Myself, I heard all kinds of allegations

One of the oddest is the Puerto Rico allegations, that Hillary Clinton had surreptitiously prevented the Sanders campaign from having access to prisoners. Later it turned out that they were wrong. The allegations of fraud remain, and then the story drifted off into silence, like so many allegations of fraud.

If there isn't certainty about the authorship of the memo, I am certain that the people involved will step forward and joyfully discuss the workings of their office, their campaign, and every discussion they have ever had off the record. In the name of transparency, of course!

[merrily]

51. I pointed that out only because anyone could leave a memo in a diner and I did

not see anyone else pointing that out. However, you have to assume it's real if you are going to discuss it all. I think it's just SOP, though.

As far as the campaign itself beating the drum, Sanders said--and I was not happy about it--that it was "dumb," not fraud. I can't imagine why he would have said that if he had been paying people to claim fraud. I think lots of his supporters claimed fraud and/or unfair dealings, though.

[bluedye33139]

69. Yes, the allegations of fraud stopped

[merrily]

70. Allegations of primary election fraud stopped?

That claim is so patently far from true that I am out of this "discussion."

[bluestateguy]

44. Fine. Water under the bridge.

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[Hekate]

49. But but but I thought he was a different kind of politician who would take trains and busses...

...and fly economy class only.

Oh well.

All is forgiven, Bernie, just keep telling all your believers to unite on our side and elect Hillary. Seriously.

[Craig234]

60. Sounds like a good plan

Bernie helping Hillary win just as he said.

[63splitwindow]

52. Productive thread. Don the Con loves all this. nt

[Craig234]

61. You can't hide the truth in the name of the election

It's just wrong. It makes you like the other side.

But I see nothing wrong in this revelation - it's a good plan for Bernie and Hillary.

[63splitwindow]

63. Survivor asks "What Happened" Response- "Donald Trump was elected President of the United States."

[Craig234]

62. Smear smear smear

All you can do it seems. Smear Bernie with lies.

The Tea Party has harmed the Republican Party because it has a bad set of policies. Progressives help the Democratic Party because they have good policies.

It's not an "extreme faction". I'd say the corporatist wing of the party that has betrayed the values and bulk of the American people in order to compete on the big money playing field the wrong way with Republicans is the extreme faction.

The Maoists - that's the extreme faction. Not the FDR policy Bernie wing.

[Firebrand Gary]

57. Whats good for the goose!

smh

[secondwind]

64. Nothing wrong with this.... he doesn't have the wherewithal or a private plane to get around...

If he is going to be campaigning for Hillary, he needs to GET AROUND.

Just my own humble opinion.

[progressoid]

68. OFFS. This is a non-issue.

The Clinton campaign is going to be flying a lot of people around the country. BFD.

[liberal N proud]

72. Damning emails going both ways

BS is just as guilty as the Party.

[LisaM]

76. Oh, and DWS is the problem.

Right......

[DemonGoddess]

79. Now, internal emails can be pretty horrid to the

opposition.

Having said that, the one thing I do agree with, is that the big name stumpers need to be flown around at the campaign's expense, not the DNC, if that's what's going to happen. After all, it's a campaign expense.

[DesertRat]

85. Interesting