"The Russians are coming!" And our media doesn't seem to give a damn. Think about it!!

[glennward]

The evidence is much more solid that there is a link between Trump and Russia on the leaked e-mails than there is any evidence that the DNC actually DID anything to hinder Sanders campaign. Memos between DNC staff that PROPOSE some actions to take against Sanders that even their own e-mails said would be wrong do not compare to the links now being exposed between Trump, Trump staff and Putin...not to mention how the GOP would be making a HUGE stink about his wife's dad having been a communist.

That said, think about this: All the lives and treasure fighting the cold war and establishing NATO and other forces to stop the Russian (communist) aggression and we might now elect a person who has both personal and political ties to Russia? How does that honor our military, our sacrifices of life and treasure? Maybe Kruschev was right when he said "We will bury you!"

I have to say, had this been a situation that the Hillary was as close to Putin as Trump obviously is, the media and the GOP would be all over this and you wouldn't hear about anything else. But it seems that our own media is down playing the Russian link in favor or piling on and trashing DWS. They just keep pushing the story that somehow Hillary cheated and did not really win the nomination...14 million votes aside.

Just think if Hillary had totally kicked DWS to the curb we would be hearing how disloyal Hillary is to people who work for her and who helped her and the Democratic Party for so long...in fact long before Bernie Sanders was a Democrat or even well known. It is shameful how HRC has been treated by the media and people who have no appreciation for lifelong service to causes from which they benefit.

[longship]

1. Nicely put, Glenn. R&K nt

[Demsrule86]

2. They are discussing this on Morning Joe. nt

[Doodley]

3. At the moment it is only a theory.

Leading Democrats need to make it an issue. Every speaker at the convention should at least acknowledge that it is very strange that Trump seems to think Russia and Putin is great, but he doesn't think the same of America.

[kstewart33]

21. It's not a theory.

Read the Washington Post this AM.

[leftofcool]

26. No, it is not a theory.

[UCmeNdc]

4. Follow the Money

Ask for Donald Trump's Income Tax Returns over the last 20 years!

[glennward]

5. The silence on this is telling. nt

[JustAnotherGen]

10. The pushback that Russia is 'innocent' in all of this

Is telling too.

They are fronted by wikileaks and Assange and no one seems to care how evil their actions are. Except for you - you get it!

[treestar]

6. Exactly!

They should be VERY interested in this in the "media." What kind of reporter ignores something like this?

[JustAnotherGen]

11. Those who want a horse race

And who want people to believe there is no difference between Clinton and Trump. Well there is. One is kissy kissy face with Putin and one isn't.

[Peacetrain]

7. This is getting scarier by the second

[davidn3600]

8. Russia didnt write the emails

No matter how you want to spin it, it sounds like you are trying to shoot the messenger.

[tallahasseedem]

12. That is NOT what is being implied...

the messenger got those emails from a government that hacked into the DNC with the intention of disrupting an election. If you think this okay, then you might be on the wrong board.

[JaneyVee]

15. The emails are milquetoast compared to the fact that...

A presidential nominee is in bed with a genocidal fascist dictator.

[kstewart33]

20. Exactly.

Evidence mounts that Russian intelligence, meaning Putin, has gotten his hands into the US election and one wonders what will happen next. Meantime, Trump continues to say that "Putin likes me" as if that is a reason to vote for him.

What's next? Who knows? But this Russia-Trump connection is scary as heck. Meanwhile, here at DU, DWS and emails continue to be the story of the day.

Mind blowing.

[treestar]

16. The messenger does not leak the RNC emails

and you think that makes no difference?

[leftofcool]

28. Uh no.

[RonniePudding]

29. It's not about the emails anymore

It's about the Republican running as a fucking Manchurian candidate.


Get with the program.

[JustAnotherGen]

9. This deserves a rec!

[yurbud]

13. Is it possible to oppose Trump and even accept that Putin might be interfering without

backing Cold War level hysteria?

[yurbud]

14. if you oppose foreign interference in our elections, demand our government stop doing it to others

I do not like the idea of another country putting a finger on the scale here, so why would people in other countries like it any more?

[kstewart33]

22. Please.

US actions in other countries isn't the point here.

It's more than Putin's moves to influence the election. It's about the possibility of a US president having major financial interests in Russia and who continues to brag, as he did this morning, "Putin likes me."

[Ghost Dog]

24. You mean, like the Bushes' financial interests in Saudi Arabia?

(And Manafort also worked for both Bush campaigns, you know).

And should we not mention, but the Trump campaign certainly will, the Clinton Foundation?

yurbud's point is valid. How best to counter it?

[yurbud]

25. so people in other countries don't have a right to be outraged like we do?

[PufPuf23]

17. Hell no I won't vote for Trump butI don't think the Russians are coming.

I only vote Democrat since aged into vote in 1972.

Putin is not our friend.

However, these links are worth a read for a reality perspective of the confusing situation that we face.


http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/publications/Arming_for_Deterrence_web_0719.pdf

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

[RapSoDee]

18. GOP changes name & logo: they are now the RooskiPublicans, Inc.(R)

[Avalux]

32. This is fascinating...

that you would post this rather serious accusation. Does anyone remember McCarthy and his accusations about Democrats being Communists during the cold war? Maybe a better word than fascinating is ironic.

I'd really like to see solid evidence before jumping on your bandwagon.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. eek!

[UCmeNdc]

23. Donald Trump said "No Comment" on his relationship with Russian Money Men

Donald Trump did not want to speak on his Russian connection and money exchange.

[yurbud]

27. this might have more impact if it wasn't the establishment response to ALL leaks

Rather than address the content, they attack the source, which tacitly admits the content is accurate.

[Avalux]

30. Is there proof the Russians are in cahoots with Trump and orchestrated the hack?

I really don't like red-baiting, especially if it's for political manipulation (McCarthy anyone??). I want to see some proof otherwise it's only a conspiracy theory.

If there's solid evidence and I've missed it - please point me in the right direction. Thank you.

[Jarqui]

31. I'm not falling for this garbage

Nobody is claiming the Russians wrote those emails or was behind the corruption of the DNC.

This is classic shooting the messenger ... but without solid proof the Russians were the messenger. Because maybe it will take our eyes off the ball.

The more troubling question is who beyond DWS was involved in the corruption of the DNC (and by violating their bylaws to be unbiased, they were corrupted) and how much impact did that corruption have on the end result?

The media hasn't got there yet but more than likely, some eventually will.

Now someone can try to shoot me, another messenger, wrongfully claiming I'm a Russian-Trump plant because I had the nerve to ask who beyond DWS was involved in this mess. Shooting me isn't going to make that question go away. We need answers - not trite sacrificial lambs to sucker us into thinking "problem solved!"

[TalkingDog]

33. By way of example, history suggests both candidates are Russia friendly, when it suits them.

From April of last year.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.

[revbones]

34. Could you provide links to the evidence you cited please? nt