Chuck Todd showing numbers that says 76% Sanders support Hillary, 11% Trump, and 13% other

[UMTerp01]

MOST Sanders supporters have come around to Hillary. MOST Sanders supporters see the bigger picture. The DIE HARDS are always the most vocal. Lets not make it seem like this small contingent has more power than they do. PERSPECTIVE FOLKS!!!! However, I'm sorry but the 11% that support Trump. How can any Sanders supporter support Trump? It is the complete and utter opposite of everything you were fighting for. Is it a F-U Democrats for not choosing Bernie vote?

[still_one]

1. I don't believe that these 11% were ever Sanders supporters

[angstlessk]

3. I agree...the difference is night and day

Nazi's never liked socialism

[Lord Magus]

18. Those are the people who were "Sanders supporters" just to vote against Hillary.

They never actually cared about Bernie other than that he the other primary candidate. Had he won the nomination, those people would still be voting Trump.

[pangaia]

28. Well, we don't really know that, do we.

Could be..or not............or maybe...........or some........or none...

[geek tragedy]

2. it seems like the percentages are reversed for Sanders delegates.

Hail hydra!

[revbones]

4. Seems like a lot fewer than 76% support her...

Just saying. Even in the crowd, it seems that a lot more than 24% of the 46% are registering their displeasure.

[Lord Magus]

19. "Even" in that crowd?

[Wounded Bear]

29. Delegates are NOT a totally representative sample of the voting public...

They are, almost by definition, the most ardent, the most passionate, and the least reasonable of supporters. They wouldn't be there if they didn't care somehow.

I believe that "most" Bernie supporters were supportive of his policies, which means there is no way they would vote for Trump. That would be a betrayal beyond the pale. Rational folks know that Hillary will, at least, fight back against the steady charge to the right that the Repub party offers.

The 75-80% going for Hillary number makes perfect sense to me.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

5. 11% for Trump? FUCK!!!

[auntpurl]

6. That sounds like a lot more than 11%.

Screaming NO TPP over this poor man trying to speak. Selfish assholes.

[UMTerp01]

7. Can't base your beliefs on what you are seeing from the convention

There are 50 states with lots of Bernie supporters. You can't judge that based off the die hards at the convention.

[auntpurl]

8. You're right, I know you're right.

Sorry. I am just appalled watching this. Appalled and embarrassed.

[drm604]

9. I suspect that a good percentage of the non-Hillary voters wouldn't have voted for her anyway.

And I do know of some Sanders supporters who have said all along that Trump would be their second choice. I've even met one personally. So I'm not too surprised at the 11%. Puzzled, yes, but not surprised. I think a lot of these are "fight the system!" fanatics who want to elect someone, anyone, who they don't consider to be an "insider". They don't seem to be as concerned with issues as they are with change. It makes no sense, but there you are.

[JRLeft]

17. They have the Trump will burn it down plan. Burn it to save it

It's crazy but a lot of people believe it.

[Lord Magus]

20. Accelerationists. They're just as bad as actual committed fascists.

But even less intelligent than the fascists.

[JRLeft]

21. I don't believe Trump will win unless there's an economic collapse.

That's the only way he wins.

[drm604]

22. Or a major terrorist attack on US soil.

Unfortunately the terrorists almost certainly realize that. The scarier part is that the Russians also know it, and it appears that they're willing to try to intervene in our electoral process in order to get Trump elected.

I can easily imagine Putin somehow helping to enable such an attack.

[JRLeft]

26. Or some major mass shooting the week before the election.

Basically some extraordinary event.

[Bill USA]

10. the 11% for Trump are, and always were, Repugnants

[RAFisher]

11. Maybe that will help the narrative. Sander's delegates are nuts, not his voters.

[NurseJackie]

13. That subset never supported Sanders. His campaign was just a convenient vehicle for Hillary-hate.

They needed something to glom onto, and Bernie's "revolution" was convenient. They used Bernie and took advantage of the inherent weakness of the "open primary" system.

[John Poet]

15. Some more conservative voters also liked Bernie's attacks on big banks

and "the establishment", which is not exclusively a liberal position. Some of them also have been against the trade deals-- in an earlier time, many may have backed Ross Perot.

Bernie Sanders has had a lot of independent voter supporters who participated in the Democratic primary contest...

I have to assume that the 11% mentioned who say they support Trump are voters who were never Democratic party loyalists, and were right-leaning independents. However-- Hillary's historic support of most trade deals, and Trump's professed opposition, has left an opening, if there are any voters who consider THAT the "most important issue".

Then there is Trump's professed isolationism, which could appeal to segments of the anti-war left, in contrast with Hillary's hawkishness. If that were one's "most important issue", and you were willing to ignore all of Trump's fascist tendencies, it is a problem area.


I could never vote for Trump just because he's a disgusting human being, but beyond that, most of his positions (if you believe what he says now) lean to the right.

I am, and always have voted the Democratic party ticket.

[Rhiannon12866]

16. Exactly! Anyone who supports Bernie's policies could never support Trump. Colbert said it best:

At a restaurant:

I'll have a Coke, please.

We don't have Coke, is Pepsi okay?

No! I'd rather fill my mouth with bees!

[Thrill]

23. There is no way you can be a Bernie supporter

And support Trump. Or you were never really a Bernie supporter

[Tommy_Carcetti]

24. I highly doubt those 11% truly supported Sanders in the first place.

I might give my benefit of the doubt to the 13%, but there's no way one can jump from Sanders to Trump without engaging in life threatening contortions.

[socialist_n_TN]

25. If this is true, then 11% of "Bernie supporters" are morons.....

I could see not voting for HRC, but to vote for Trump? The only way I could believe that is if 11% were wanting Trump to bring on the revolution. And if that's the case, then they are misreading and misanalysing the current situation.

[democrattotheend]

27. Some of Bernie's primary voters were swing voters

Many of them the blue-collar, white working class Reagan Democrats who have been considered swing voters since the 1980's. Bernie and Trump appeal more to some of those voters than Hillary does.

The Bernie voters voting Trump are not the activists or the people making noise on the floor. They are the swing voters, many of whom prefer anti-establishment candidates because they believe the current system isn't working.

[tonyt53]

30. Yep, and the voter registration push by the DNC will more than erase that 11% and 13%

[merrily]

31. How can they support Trump?

They may or may not be sufficiently politically sophisticated to distinguish adequately between one change, anti-establishment candidate and another. And, even if they can distinguish, at this point, Trump is the only change candidate still in the race.



I very much doubt doubt it's an FU to Democrats. People vote on who they think will make life better for them and their families, neighbors and friends. Even students vote based on that. Obviously, they don't see Hillary as you see her, but they are not picking a President for 4 years as an FU.

On the other hand, Sanders Supporters do have reason to be ticked at the party. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028047987

Maybe they don't want to be associated with something that operates that way?

[NobodyHere]

34. Most likely they're anti-status quo

[Uponthegears]

32. I have the same questions

But I doubt the figures.

Bernie was an economic justice candidate. That's why I supported him. That's the Number 1 reason every person I have met during the primary campaign supported him. Trump and Protest offer NOTHING when it comes to economic justice.

Bernie's "green" credentials are not that different than Secretary Clinton's so otherwise "green" voters are not going to bolt. In addition, to support him, but not Hillary, based on his TPP opposition has nothing to do with the TPP (because Secretary Clinton says she will not let it go into effect without greater worker/environmental/jurisdictional protection) so anyone who is leaving for that reason is REALLY leaving because they don't "trust" Hillary. "Trust" is a 100% made-up right wing issue and no Democrat is going to vote for anyone else based on that issue.

My educated (I would like to think) guess is that over 90% of Bernie supporters will vote for Secretary Clinton and that the inflated numbers for Trump and Protest are from people who will vote for Secretary Clinton but are looking for a way to say they are upset that we lost.

[Chasstev365]

33. Possiblly now, but not this autumn

I don't think the 11% will actually vote for Trump. The stark reality of Trump will only get worse and they will wake up by November.

[beachbum bob]

35. any sanders supporter supporting trump was NEVER a sanders supporter

[oberliner]

36. So that's over a million Sanders voters who will vote for Trump in the general

How is that possible?

[StraightRazor]

37. No one who truly supported Bernie will support Trump...

The 11% that say that will are just lashing out but will join the 76% in supporting HRC - chances are the other 13% will also whittle down quite a lot, although some in that group will in fact go Green.

[Florencenj2point0]

38. Todd is wrong

90 % support Hillary

[sofa king]

39. That's not too surprising.

Sanders is, after all, a Social Democrat who only officially aligned with the Democratic Party in this election season. He brought in a lot of supporters not previously associated with the Democrats, and many of them have decided to stay.

I personally am very happy with Sanders' run, which achieved many of his stated policy goals. I think that his run, along with Trump's, has provided Mrs. Clinton with an opportunity to be less centrist and conciliatory to the other side, and still be in an excellent position to win while also supporting improved health care, trade, wage, and climate change positions.