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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:13 AM Jul 2016

Remember, the trouble makers are a small IGNORANT fringe. 90% of Bernie supporters are aboard.

Granted, the screechers in the hall need a lesson in REALITY and a lesson in RESPECT.

Some of this Bernie campaign FRINGE got themselves into a FRENZY over their candidate and the "movement." They invested in it like a religion, and many for the first time. I can understand the profound disappointment. What they must remember is that politics isn't a religion. It is a process whereby someone wins and someone loses. We all have to face disappointment. I have had to face it MANY times, having put my heart and soul into campaigns and we came up short. Other times we won. That's the nature of the beast. I like Bernie a hell of a lot. He beat all expectations.
He did some great things with that campaign and had a big impact on the platform. Knowing how he was such an underdog, those are great victories in that sense. I do hope that he, Weaver, and Devine will follow through and continue their movement in ways that will keep all those people really engaged.

But now they must see that interrupting people like Elijah Cummings and booing people is RUDE, NOT "progressive," DISRESPECTFUL, and CHILDISH. There is no room for it at a PARTY convention. That convention is not there for RADICALS to mount ridiculous protests
on the floor of the party hall. To think there are some Bernie delegates saying they will not vote for the nominee. UNACCEPTABLE.

So fringe people, Bernie or Bust people, I have one piece of advice for you. GROW THE HELL UP! Do you really want Trump, the most vile asshole to ever win a party nomination? If not, GROW UP, SMARTEN UP, LISTEN TO BERNIE, and work to beat Trump!


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Remember, the trouble makers are a small IGNORANT fringe. 90% of Bernie supporters are aboard. (Original Post) RBInMaine Jul 2016 OP
Feh DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #1
The best way is to swarm them with Hillary signs and shout THEM down. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #4
They just received a beating. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #8
They show a decided DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #10
I hear a lot of them describing Sanders and Clinton as "polar opposites" on the issues. Tal Vez Jul 2016 #12
Belief in years and years of DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #13
Clearly right wing smears have taken a toll on Clinton's image, Tal Vez Jul 2016 #14
that was primary wars that caused DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #17
They need to be removed from the hall RonniePudding Jul 2016 #2
Parasites, pure and simple. And NOT Democrats; big D or small d. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #19
They are the delegates Sanders and his voters selected frazzled Jul 2016 #3
Best thing to do is with swarm them with Hillary signs and shout THEM down. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #5
Counter them in every way in writing, media, etc. and at rallies SWARM them and shout THEM down. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #6
I heard a Sanders supporter this morning say that this Convention was supposed to be for Bernie BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #7
ye gods DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #11
But she really believed it! Clearly, she has no idea what the Convention is for. eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #15
Sad, and amusing.... NurseJackie Jul 2016 #16
I totally agree. It's also sad that so many Americans don't know how the Party operates after BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #24
I heard the same thing from a silly delegate last night. Too stupid to know it WAS Bernie's night Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #22
K&R, MK! I couldn't agree with you more! eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #33
Once they booed Sanders at his talk with them before the convention csziggy Jul 2016 #9
I do think he should have said then that this behavior is UNACCEPTABLE Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #23
In a way, they remind me of myself calguy Jul 2016 #18
I believe you. randome Jul 2016 #20
Unfortunately, as with all demographics, the loudest and most vulgar get the prime-time news spots. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #21
Here is a Washington Post article to back that up... liberal N proud Jul 2016 #26
Booing Elijah Cummings was the last straw.... redstatebluegirl Jul 2016 #27
And then having the nerve to sit there with tape on their petulant, cry-baby little mouths Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #32
You are correct but the media makes that really hard to do. nt glennward Jul 2016 #28
More like 98%. Hate to be critical, but L. Coyote Jul 2016 #29
Come to Wisconsin Lifelong Protester Jul 2016 #30
I'm sticking to CSPAN lapucelle Jul 2016 #31

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
8. They just received a beating.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:32 AM
Jul 2016

And, if they remain involved in politics, it will certainly not be their last defeat.

They just need to learn how to recover from a setback, how to get back up and how to gracefully move forward. A lot of that comes with experience. A defeat or setback will strengthen a person if he/she gets back up and finds a constructive path. By November, nearly all of them will be able to see what is pretty obvious.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
10. They show a decided
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jul 2016

unwillingness to learn from defeat, though. Everything has to be handed to 'em, whether warranted or not.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
12. I hear a lot of them describing Sanders and Clinton as "polar opposites" on the issues.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jul 2016

If you had supported Sanders and somehow developed the belief that Sanders and Clinton are "polar opposites" on the issues, would you be able to support Clinton. I wouldn't.

What is behind this delusion that the two are "polar opposites" on the issues?

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
13. Belief in years and years of
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jul 2016

RW smears, instead of actually looking at her real record, and real accomplishments.

Tal Vez

(660 posts)
14. Clearly right wing smears have taken a toll on Clinton's image,
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jul 2016

but the right wingers have always cast Clinton as a left wing radical. There are supporters of Sanders who somehow developed the opinion that Clinton is a right wing conservative. For me, it is hard to imagine how anyone could arrive at that view of Clinton, particularly if they had been around during all those decades of right wing smears of Clinton.

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
2. They need to be removed from the hall
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jul 2016

Involuntarily if necessary.

They are green party-naderite pissants.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. They are the delegates Sanders and his voters selected
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jul 2016

to represent him at the convention. Therefore they are NOT insignificant. They have influence among an admittedly small but potentially decisive number of naive and/or destructive voters.

I will not ignore them or write them off as an aberration. There are too many out there cheering them on.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
6. Counter them in every way in writing, media, etc. and at rallies SWARM them and shout THEM down.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jul 2016

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
7. I heard a Sanders supporter this morning say that this Convention was supposed to be for Bernie
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jul 2016

and yet all she heard the other night was "Hillary, Hillary, Hillary", and "it was disappointing" and it upset her.

I thought she was kidding. She wasn't.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
24. I totally agree. It's also sad that so many Americans don't know how the Party operates after
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jul 2016

all ballots have been tallied. I believe some still believe that Sanders has a chance to win the nomination at the Convention. I don't see how they can believe that. I really don't.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
22. I heard the same thing from a silly delegate last night. Too stupid to know it WAS Bernie's night
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:23 PM
Jul 2016

It was geared mostly around him, and he got the prime spot of honor for the evening.

"We finally got to hear our candidate" "I just wish she reached out to us, even just a little"

Are you fucking kidding me? Helllloooooooo - platform committee ringing any bells? Debt-free college, public option, $15 minimum wage, vocal opposition to the TPP and agreement from the VP that he will do the same RINGING ANY GODDAMN BELLS YET?

It has become a cult/religion for a very unfortunate few. Thank god 90% of Bernie supporters have the grace, intelligence, sanity and maturity to follow his example of class, and cast their vote for HRC.

Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #7)

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
9. Once they booed Sanders at his talk with them before the convention
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:37 AM
Jul 2016

I knew there were going to be disruptors with nothing productive to do.

Sen. Sanders had a meeting with some of his delegates yesterday afternoon. When he asked them to vote for Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine, they booed SANDERS! I don't think Sanders handled it very well and he clearly did not expect that reaction. He did not go after the booing delegates, he just kind of faded away and ended the meeting.

If Sanders had reacted strongly and told his supporters how important it was that they vote for Clinton, last night might have gone better.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
23. I do think he should have said then that this behavior is UNACCEPTABLE
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jul 2016

Plainly and clearly like he was talking to a bunch of children, since he clearly was speaking to a bunch of children in that room at that time. I would like to see him more forcefully rebuke their behavior still, (yesterday's text message needs reinforcement) as I do believe it would have some effect.





calguy

(5,306 posts)
18. In a way, they remind me of myself
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jul 2016

when I was a very young and politically inexperienced McGovern supporter back in '72. Had McGovern not won the nomination back then, I would have felt and acted the same way.
Looking back all those years ago, I now realize how foolish and naïve we were to think he had a chance to win. Time has taught me how little I really knew back then.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. I believe you.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jul 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)
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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Unfortunately, as with all demographics, the loudest and most vulgar get the prime-time news spots.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jul 2016

Unfortunately, as with all demographics, the loudest and most vulgar get the prime-time news spots.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
32. And then having the nerve to sit there with tape on their petulant, cry-baby little mouths
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jul 2016

After shouting and booing at E.C. - Fuck them. Seriously.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
29. More like 98%. Hate to be critical, but
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jul 2016

I see on Facebook who the die-hards are. They are not my rational friends, they are closer to emotional reactionaries. But, they did not come to this place by themselves,they were led there by agent provocateurs spouting the negative CT bullshit about rigged elections, etc.. There was a concerted effort to divide and conquer, and there is resaon to believe those behind the effort had the DNC files in their possession when they were promulgating the divisiveness.

I got the distinct impression months ago of a plot to make Berners so disillusioned they would go home and never vote again.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
31. I'm sticking to CSPAN
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jul 2016

Earlier they were showing protests. There was a Bernie die-in. Then there was a lunatic right winger screaming that "Horrible slur for gays are worthy of death."

Now they're replaying Michelle's speech.

No talking heads for me this week. They are bad actors looking to stir discord. I don't need overpaid hacks telling me what I'm seeing.

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