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Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:15 AM

 

Where we agree (Part 1): A Public Option & lowering Medicare age to 55.

We all agree on this, right?

That's not to say many of us still want single-payer in the future; I'm just confirming that we all agree to work towards getting a public option in obamacare, as well as lowering the Medicare age to 55, right?

EDIT: it's in our platform

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Reply Where we agree (Part 1): A Public Option & lowering Medicare age to 55. (Original post)
grahamhgreen Jul 2016 OP
forest444 Jul 2016 #1
yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #2
Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #9
tazkcmo Jul 2016 #3
grahamhgreen Jul 2016 #4
Armstead Jul 2016 #22
GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #5
TeddyR Jul 2016 #7
GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #8
TeddyR Jul 2016 #10
Hoyt Jul 2016 #12
GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #14
JRLeft Jul 2016 #6
Hoyt Jul 2016 #15
grahamhgreen Jul 2016 #16
JRLeft Jul 2016 #19
Recursion Jul 2016 #21
Orsino Jul 2016 #11
auntpurl Jul 2016 #13
grahamhgreen Jul 2016 #17
auntpurl Jul 2016 #18
Scuba Jul 2016 #20
Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #23

Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:19 AM

1. For the time being, sure.

But with as much fraud and abuse as there is in our health care delivery and billing, it'll eventually come to the point where single-payers becomes a necessity - especially with the wave of baby boomers set to reach their 70s soon.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:20 AM

2. Medicare at 55 would help so many in that retirement gap

 

Those still working for medical benefits. I think the social security age needs lowered and all checks doubled. Get rid of that dang cap.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:14 AM

9. And those who can't find work at those ages...

which was me, out of work in my late 50's. Not a lot of demand for us old guys.

That would have helped me a bunch. Thankfully, I found the VA, so I'm OK now, but I know there are many thousands and millions of people out there looking for med care.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:31 AM

3. single payer.

Not insurance, not coverage, not for profit. Non profit health CARE. Many of us can't wait for incremental change.

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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:32 AM

4. A public option would mean buying into Medicare. It will result

 

In the death of for-profit insurance.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 27, 2016, 07:54 AM

22. Good. Let private insurance die

 

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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:33 AM

5. And no estate recovery.

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Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:55 AM

7. Can you elaborate?

 

Not sure what you mean here.

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Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:15 AM

10. Great, thanks

 

Never heard of that.

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Response to GreenPartyVoter (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:49 AM

12. That's Medicaid, not Medicare.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:53 AM

14. Yes, thanks. Would still like to see it go someday.

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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:35 AM

6. A public option would lead to a single payer system. We have to find out if Hillary

 

will support it. I'm not sure she can give the middle finger to her donors in the health insurance industry.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:05 PM

15. Her website says she supports it and she has mentioned support during campaign.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:08 PM

16. She is now in favor of a public options and lowering medicare to 55. It's not single-payer, but

 

it's a YUGE step in the right direction, in my view.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:24 PM

19. I can dig it.

 

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Response to tazkcmo (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 27, 2016, 07:41 AM

21. Single payer is insurance

Not sure where the meme that it isn't insurance came from.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:31 AM

11. I want progress.

If the end game doesn't look exactly like single payer, I may be fine with it. Let's get more people covered more affordably, starting now.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:51 AM

13. I am in favor of a public option, but not single payer. nt

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Response to auntpurl (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:09 PM

17. We agree on a public option - let's make it happen. We need each other to do it.

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #17)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:10 PM

18. Also in favor of lowering the age to 55.

Yes we agree.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2016, 07:38 AM

20. I don't agree that it's a good place to start the negotiation. We should start at ...

 

... Medicare for All, including dental, optical, hearing aids and mental health services.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2016, 07:56 AM

23. That would be the easiest way to achieve

Single Payer...lowering the medicare age to 55 is a first step. Lowering it to say 45 is next...it has never been reasonable to have separate insurance for the you and the old.

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