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Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:51 PM

 

Elizabeth Warren trusts Clinton on TPP

Elizabeth Warren trusts Clinton on TPP

By Joan Vennochi GLOBE COLUMNIST JULY 29, 2016

When it comes to the TPP, in Hillary she trusts.

Senator Elizabeth Warren — a longtime opponent of the Trans-Pacific Partnership — said she believes Hillary Clinton’s opposition to the trade deal is rock solid.

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Although Republicans in Congress are pushing for it, Donald Trump calls it “a horrible deal.” As secretary of state, Clinton called it “the gold standard.” Now, she’s against it, but not enough to satisfy purists on the left.

A heckler yelled out “No TPP!” during President Obama’s speech to convention delegates on Wednesday night and Hillary Clinton might hear it too. Warren said she has no problem with protesters expressing their view. It’s democracy, she said.

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Response to think (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:52 PM

1. I talked to the legislative director of a major union at the convention

And he said that he cautiously trusts her as well. He didn't seem 100% confident but he said he takes her at her word for now, so that was encouraging.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:12 PM

4. Thank you for the input. Good to hear /nt

 

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Response to think (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:53 PM

2. I bet being for or against is too simplified

A large and complex agreement, where we cannot get all we want but as much as we can.

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Response to treestar (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 04:59 PM

3. One of Hillary's economic advisers Joseph Stiglitz, wants it scrapped and done from scratch

 

He stated in a Democracy now video interview yesterday that he's talked to partners of both the TPP and NAFTA and they've said they are open to redoing it.

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Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:31 PM

5. TPP and orthodoxy and party loyalty

I was fairly open to the Trans-Pacific treaty because I believe that international trade works best when the nations come together and agree on standards and practices and policies. I was supportive of TPP because the Obama admin seemed to be working hard on making it a sensible agreement, but I will admit I was a little, oh, miffed by the secrecy. And when I listened to anti-TPP arguments, I often heard nothing but generic anti-capitalist talking points.

So I shrugged and continued to support the TPP, hoping that it would be a thing that the two parties could work together on. Maybe (I was being naive here) it would even be something that would bring together folks.

Then the details started coming out, and as a majority of Democrats seem to be opposed to the agreement, I have backed off on my support and from approx. May onward I've been of the opinion that the TPP should be shelved and re-negotiated in a more open forum, with a greater focus on labor rights and environmental protection.

For me, this is what it means to be a member of a party. There are things I would argue for vigorously even if I found I was in a minority, but there are other things that I trust the policy wonks to work on. My loyalty to the Democratic party means that I will work to support the ideas that the party's platform and the statement of values in the by-laws articulate. Thus, I have gone from being open to the TPP to being opposed, partly because of logical arguments, partly because of party loyalty.

I do not think that Hillary Clinton has any less of a loyalty to this party, and I do not think that she has some kind of secret agenda to seize power and then force the TPP through. What kind of paranoid thinking are people having? What kind of caricature of human behavior is even being imagined here? Yikes.

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Response to think (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:37 PM

6. TPP is DOA.

 

I believe in trade deals, but due to the mostly unjustified negative sentiments on tpp, it would define a presidency, no matter how many progressive accomplishments also get passed during her terms. It has become poison.

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