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NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:00 AM Jul 2016

Remember Bush's debate meltdown in 2004?



I think that's going to look tame compared to the meltdown the Orange Con Man is going to have when he debates Hillary.

He's already losing it. Look at his tweet storm after Hillary's speech. Just wait until she is standing feet from him getting under his skin.
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Remember Bush's debate meltdown in 2004? (Original Post) NYC Liberal Jul 2016 OP
Scary that Trump makes Bush look like a grown up oberliner Jul 2016 #1
Somehow they keep getting worse. NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #2
Yes indeed oberliner Jul 2016 #3
And, mitt has his moments.. he's not endorsing trumpence. lol Cha Jul 2016 #5
I was thinking about that the other day democrattotheend Jul 2016 #19
I hope secret service puts a taser gun on her lectern in case she has to light him up if needed. nt fleabiscuit Jul 2016 #4
. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #7
Didn't think of the taser - but my first thought was that he might lose it and get physical /nt Get.Real.Now Jul 2016 #12
That wasn't a meltdown. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #6
+! I can't stand Bush but that wasn't a meltdown, that was passion. grossproffit Jul 2016 #8
Kerry's retort was correct however.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #11
I kind of had that same thought watching that again (12 yrs later). Grown2Hate Jul 2016 #18
With Dumb Donald Jamaal510 Jul 2016 #9
Sheesh. Remind me again, how exactly did Kerry lose to Shrub redStateBlueHeart Jul 2016 #10
Ohio SticksnStones Jul 2016 #13
Thank you for this. mylye2222 Jul 2016 #15
It's one of those pieces SticksnStones Jul 2016 #17
I love your signature graphic democrattotheend Jul 2016 #20
Thanks.... SticksnStones Aug 2016 #22
He lost on various unfair reason. mylye2222 Jul 2016 #14
He remembered Poland. Kerry forgot Poland. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #16
Fear. GWB played on people's ... YvonneCa Jul 2016 #21
+1 mylye2222 Aug 2016 #23

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
2. Somehow they keep getting worse.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:03 AM
Jul 2016

Remember how terrible McCain was -- and he defended Obama from that woman who called him "an Arab" as an insult/slur.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. Yes indeed
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:06 AM
Jul 2016

What is crazy is that Hannity and his ilk hated McCain. They thought he was too liberal. And they love Trump.

Whereas Glenn Beck thinks Trump is too liberal and supported Ted Cruz.

And the Bush family is sitting it out entirely.

Something very strange is going on within their party.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
19. I was thinking about that the other day
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:31 PM
Jul 2016

As bad as Bush was, he wasn't overtly racist, he actually tried to win some Hispanic votes instead of using them as a punching bag, and he at least paid lip service to the fact that not all Muslims are terrorists. I hated him when he was president but compared to Trump he doesn't seem so bad. And that is pretty scary.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. That wasn't a meltdown.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:12 AM
Jul 2016

That was word for word what you would expect to hear from a Democrat and with the exact same passion. That was Kerry getting it briefly handed to him. I absolutely love Kerry but more often than not he speaks to the American people as if they can keep up with his mind. Watch that clip. The simpleton did well for himself with that one.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
11. Kerry's retort was correct however....
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 05:58 AM
Jul 2016

....the problem was he didn't fire back with the same spunk Bush showed.

Grown2Hate

(2,010 posts)
18. I kind of had that same thought watching that again (12 yrs later).
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jul 2016

I think that played well for Shrub. He was impassioned, clear, and reasoned (albeit completely wrong).

I miss the days when I just couldn't stand the opposition and saw them as absolutely horrible at their job and bad for America. I'd take that over being terrified that this is the end of the country.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
9. With Dumb Donald
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:33 AM
Jul 2016

on stage, the debates will turn into the Jerry Springer Show. It's a farce how he's the nominee of a major party.

redStateBlueHeart

(265 posts)
10. Sheesh. Remind me again, how exactly did Kerry lose to Shrub
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:40 AM
Jul 2016

I remember watching the 2004 debates in high school and thinking there was no way Bush would get reelected...

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
13. Ohio
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 07:26 AM
Jul 2016

Kerry's loss was about Ohio

An interesting read from Chris Hitchens, he was no fan of the left...which makes the read even more compelling.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2005/03/hitchens200503

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
17. It's one of those pieces
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 07:41 AM
Jul 2016

Of reporting that just stayed with me.

I was very surprised back then how little consequence was had with all the anomalies in Ohio's results. Although I remember it up'd the visibility of the election watchdog group, blackboxvoting.org.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
14. He lost on various unfair reason.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 07:32 AM
Jul 2016

He is one of the smartest pols I know.
The all unfair reason were
Ohio stolen
SBVT heinous campaign
And, lack of Dem Party supports.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
16. He remembered Poland. Kerry forgot Poland.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 07:37 AM
Jul 2016

I remembered watching those debates and thinking for sure the tide would turn in favor of Kerry.

I don't understand why Bush didn't collapse in the polls after the debate, other than we were still shellshocked by 9-11.

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