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fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:14 PM Jul 2016

Nina Turner weighing offer to join Green Party ticket as vice presidential candidate

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Nina Turner, the Democratic former state senator from Cleveland who has emerged as a rallying figure for Bernie Sanders' disappointed supporters, said she is considering an offer to run for vice president on the Green Party's national ticket.

Massachusetts physician Jill Stein, the party's presumptive presidential nominee, reached out with the pitch, Turner told cleveland.com Sunday evening in a telephone interview.

The Green Party opens its convention Thursday in Houston. Turner would stand for nomination there if she agrees to be Stein's running mate. Her decision is expected in the coming days.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/07/nina_turner_weighing_offer_to.html

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Nina Turner weighing offer to join Green Party ticket as vice presidential candidate (Original Post) fun n serious Jul 2016 OP
Biggest laugh I've had today. Thank you for this. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #1
Me too! stopbush Jul 2016 #9
I bet the next step is some kind of self-righteous GoFundMe campaign. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #17
Unfortunately, in our current system, it is not funny. nt SusanCalvin Jul 2016 #22
You lsugh because greens get no medis. Why laugh over... George Eliot Aug 2016 #56
I laugh because Nina Turner is an incompetent clown, and she reminds us with every appearance. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #64
You vote labels. That's fine. I prefer people. George Eliot Aug 2016 #78
No, I was specific about my criticism of Nina Turner being based on her, not some label. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #83
Her values, Bernie's values not clownish. Clinton adopted several. Otherwise I'd be voting Green. George Eliot Aug 2016 #98
This discussion is clownish, because you're arguing against stuff I didn't say. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #99
LOL. George Eliot Aug 2016 #100
She may be doing that. She'd do better to take a clue from Sanders. Hortensis Aug 2016 #84
Oppose? By Turner's account, he was the one to tell her she wouldn't be speaking. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #85
There's plenty of room in the party for people like Hortensis Aug 2016 #90
If she does this her career in the Democratic Party is over and rightfully so. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #2
I think she has already burned her bridge.. fun n serious Jul 2016 #5
She needs to keep her eye on the objective. SusanCalvin Jul 2016 #23
That "career" is already in ruins rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #8
"career killer" is what first popped into my mind when saw OP title. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #44
Cornel West next in line? oberliner Jul 2016 #3
Sombody said Barney Frank finally got West to say he would vote for HRC Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #54
I didn't hear West say that. West was on Bill Mahr's show last Friday and made an ass of himself. politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2016 #95
I'm sick of him too. Been sick foever bravenak Aug 2016 #101
Those two will drive each other nuts! SharonClark Jul 2016 #4
That explains her erratic behavior last week. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #6
lol Cha Jul 2016 #37
Just last week? Turner's been in full-on moonbat lunatic mode for a while now. No tether to reality Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #7
+1! Cha Jul 2016 #38
Yep! AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #49
Well, it was me or Nina, I guess. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2016 #10
What does it pay? nt DURHAM D Jul 2016 #11
What she can fundraise.....! MADem Jul 2016 #16
Job applications.... FarPoint Jul 2016 #12
NO. Nonononono. SusanCalvin Jul 2016 #13
She really loves the attention bravenak Aug 2016 #43
Oh so true! unitedwethrive Aug 2016 #61
When Nina Turner praised Kasich, KMOD Jul 2016 #14
She did? (Haven't been paying attention to her.) OMG. nt SusanCalvin Jul 2016 #15
I didn't know she did that... sarae Jul 2016 #18
NO SHE DIDN'T! She is a board member of planned parenthood for crying out load. nt Snotcicles Jul 2016 #30
Ok, thanks, it didn't sound like something she'd do... sarae Jul 2016 #36
I think you're right.... LenaBaby61 Aug 2016 #60
^^^This!!! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #35
What political point was she trying to score with that garbage? Cha Jul 2016 #39
She was looking to score Kasich voters towards Sanders. KMOD Aug 2016 #45
Since nina came on my radar screen she has done nothing but be her own worst Cha Aug 2016 #47
What were you expecting? How do you know nothing worked ? George Eliot Aug 2016 #57
I expected Nothing from nina turner.. absolutely NOTHING. She's her own Cha Aug 2016 #62
Can you link Sanders not wanting her? Didn't know that George Eliot Aug 2016 #80
Don't presume to know anything about me. Cha Aug 2016 #86
So...you...don't have a source? George Eliot Aug 2016 #97
She defended him on police reform fun n serious Aug 2016 #55
I am not fan of Turner in the least, but that isn't true obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #71
Never let the truth get in the way of a good smear. ( Link ) Snotcicles Aug 2016 #73
It was on April 7th, KMOD Aug 2016 #79
My ODP contacts told me she had a real political future in Ohio... brooklynite Jul 2016 #19
And she blew that? Wow. nt SusanCalvin Jul 2016 #21
Jill Stein needs to drop out as well. SusanCalvin Jul 2016 #20
I disagree with your opinion. Nader handed Bush the election The Second Stone Aug 2016 #48
Gore won. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #65
Gore did not win. He was not President. The Second Stone Aug 2016 #74
Talk about hitching your wagon to the wrong horse.. The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #24
And to the wrong part of the horse at that. Koinos Aug 2016 #41
Probably a good idea to nix her DNC speech nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #25
does anyone actually give a flying fuck about her or Stein dlwickham Jul 2016 #26
<0 = the number of flying fucks I give. COLGATE4 Jul 2016 #29
+1 Zero fucks, flying or otherwise to give. grossproffit Jul 2016 #31
I do like your math! COLGATE4 Jul 2016 #32
Please proceed, Nina. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #27
Goodbye, Nina! And good riddence! Take Dr. Cornel West with you, okay? TheDebbieDee Jul 2016 #28
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jul 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author JohnnyRingo Jul 2016 #40
Now she gets to bring change from the fringes instead of into the mainstream of the party. TeamPooka Aug 2016 #42
Predicted it last week ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #46
I agree with nearly all of you here on this thread. fun n serious Aug 2016 #50
If she thinks she is going to further "the movement" by going green.... AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #51
There are some on twitter going after Joy Reid over this fun n serious Aug 2016 #59
Something happened to her. madaboutharry Aug 2016 #52
Many people who know her say the same. fun n serious Aug 2016 #53
Right...I don't say that. A lot of people I know don't say that. George Eliot Aug 2016 #58
If that's the case, maybe it really is mental illness. Lord Magus Aug 2016 #63
Who? nt LexVegas Aug 2016 #66
Girl, don't go away mad. auntpurl Aug 2016 #67
+1, I wonder if she'll now start saying that Bernie rigged the system against her. R B Garr Aug 2016 #68
I bet she'll at least say that Bernie sold out his revolution. auntpurl Aug 2016 #75
And there goes all the respect I had for her. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #69
What a selfish consideration. Tatiana Aug 2016 #70
Oh dear! NurseJackie Aug 2016 #72
what a dipshit.... chillfactor Aug 2016 #76
How do you go from socialist to that? liberal N proud Aug 2016 #77
Let her go do it. . .she's not making anything happen anyway. DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #81
I found her argumentative, negative and abrasive from day one. Sheepshank Aug 2016 #82
Sigh MFM008 Aug 2016 #87
Who? bananakabob Aug 2016 #88
Please stop saying her name or the name of Jill Stein. Neither person has any relevance. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #89
Ignoring a hernia long enough can earn you a bout of sepsis and a colostomy bag. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #92
Jill Stein picks Ajamu Baraka as her running mate. So you can all come in off the ledge now. LOL nt Snotcicles Aug 2016 #93
Hmm Baraka... timlot Aug 2016 #94
LOL! SharonClark Aug 2016 #96
Ya snooze ya lose. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #102
 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
17. I bet the next step is some kind of self-righteous GoFundMe campaign.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jul 2016

I just hope she remembers to get a family member on the media team to collect her share of the campaign's commissions on advertising expenses.

George Eliot

(701 posts)
56. You lsugh because greens get no medis. Why laugh over...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:16 AM
Aug 2016

something so undemocrstic? You prefer media selecting your candidates for you? I prefer to make my own informed decisions

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
64. I laugh because Nina Turner is an incompetent clown, and she reminds us with every appearance.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:06 AM
Aug 2016

She's putting her name forth for Green Party VP? After using our convention for publicity stunt? Then she's no Democrat, and she can go to hell.

George Eliot

(701 posts)
78. You vote labels. That's fine. I prefer people.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:14 AM
Aug 2016

Is everynody you disagree with a clown? She worked hard for party. Just not your candidate I guess.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
83. No, I was specific about my criticism of Nina Turner being based on her, not some label.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:26 AM
Aug 2016

Where did you even get "you vote labels" out of my prior comment?

"she worked hard for party" NOT OUR PARTY, though. This thread is about her joining another non-Democratic Party ticket as a candidate.

And it doesn't count as "hard work" if you quit the millisecond that you don't get your way, which is what Nina Turner has done.

She's not a clown because I disagree with her. She's a clown because her actions are unserious and ridiculous. Give her some bendable balloons and she can work children's birthday parties.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
84. She may be doing that. She'd do better to take a clue from Sanders.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:27 AM
Aug 2016

Sanders won't even take or return their phone calls. And, btw, it seems he did not oppose the DNC's cancellation of Turner's speaking slot.

This step would likely cost Turner big if she every wanted to run as a Democrat again someday. Wouldn't quite call burning that bridge going to hell, but still.

Perhaps she's hoping former Sanders supporters migrating to the Green Party would become hers. The lineup on the GOP debate stages proves you don't have to win office to make a living out of running.





 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
85. Oppose? By Turner's account, he was the one to tell her she wouldn't be speaking.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:32 AM
Aug 2016

I have no complaints about Bernie Sanders' actions in regards to this topic. He's been completely above-board lately.

If Nina Turner wants to leave our party, that's her call. After hearing her hateful and uninformed cable news appearances during the primary, I'm almost sympathetic to the Greens. She's their problem now.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
90. There's plenty of room in the party for people like
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:55 AM
Aug 2016

Turner -- and plenty of people in the party like her -- but if they want to rise to leadership they're going to have to face the reality that the party's many special interests average out to middlin' liberal and still include conservative blocs that also have to be considered.

I haven't paid enough attention to her to know just what she's really so unhappy about, but I'm a little bemused about why she would consider moving to the Greens when she is so committed to minority issues. In this era the Democratic Party is becoming the minority power party. So she was criticized by white and black Dems for supporting Sanders. Self-exile to Green-wackyland for that?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. If she does this her career in the Democratic Party is over and rightfully so.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jul 2016

It is a shame because I really liked and respected her.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
54. Sombody said Barney Frank finally got West to say he would vote for HRC
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:55 AM
Aug 2016

But West twists with the faintest breeze so . . . .

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
95. I didn't hear West say that. West was on Bill Mahr's show last Friday and made an ass of himself.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:54 PM
Aug 2016

I'm a black woman, and I'm to the point that I can't stand Cornel West any more. Mahr finally seemed like he was sick of him because he's got a big mouth and he always tries to dominate the conversation when he's on that show. He doesn't give anyone else a chance to speak. He's been berating Obama every since he was elected and I'm sick of it.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
91. Just last week? Turner's been in full-on moonbat lunatic mode for a while now. No tether to reality
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:42 PM
Aug 2016

at all. Getting all bent over being tossed after she made it clear she wanted to walk around the Dem convention saying she doesn't support the nominee? Fidiot.

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. What she can fundraise.....!
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:36 PM
Jul 2016

Send in those checks, believers ....

Since Bernie wouldn't bite, she's looking for someone who she thinks has a printout of the Sanders donor list.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
13. NO. Nonononono.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jul 2016

I logged back on just to say that.

Nina, can we PLEASE try to live in the reality-based world???!!!

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
14. When Nina Turner praised Kasich,
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:50 AM - Edit history (1)

and defended his defunding of Planned Parenthood, she lost me for good.

She's a republican, she just hasn't realized it yet.

Edit and update with videos.

Here she is on April 3rd, 3 minutes in, talking favorably towards John Kasich.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/john-kasich-touts-bipartisan-work-in-ohio-658042947770

while she was trashing Hillary everywhere else.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
60. I think you're right....
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:31 AM
Aug 2016

Last edited Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:09 AM - Edit history (1)

Nina's been on my last nerve this election cycle , but I thought she was firmly against John Kasich and his anti-choice record?





I remember her wearing that pink "Get out of my panties" tee on many occasions earlier this year which was protesting Kasich's anti-choice record.

Did she change her mind or what?

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
45. She was looking to score Kasich voters towards Sanders.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:23 AM
Aug 2016

I'm still looking for the video clip.

She trashed Hillary up and down over nonsense like the emails and then went on to sing the praises of Kasich.

When she was asked about his defunding of Planned Parenthood, she blew it off and said that she respects his decision even if she doesn't agree with it. She went on and on about how much she respected him, and that sometimes "friends" don't see eye to eye. It was revolting.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
47. Since nina came on my radar screen she has done nothing but be her own worst
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:27 AM
Aug 2016

enemy. So desperate to get attention while pandering to the low common denominator.

Thank you for that, K. Nothing's she's done has worked.

George Eliot

(701 posts)
57. What were you expecting? How do you know nothing worked ?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:22 AM
Aug 2016

Just more put downs and because you disagree with her.politics. She's at least as good as DWS don't you think?

Cha

(297,240 posts)
62. I expected Nothing from nina turner.. absolutely NOTHING. She's her own
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 03:20 AM
Aug 2016

worst enemy. None of her crap has worked.

sanders himself didn't want her nominating him @ the dnc. And, now she's "weighing running with jill freaking stein".. whose propaganda is not allowed on this board.



George Eliot

(701 posts)
80. Can you link Sanders not wanting her? Didn't know that
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:19 AM
Aug 2016

I respect all people who worked for party candidates. Sorry you're so emotional.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
79. It was on April 7th,
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:17 AM
Aug 2016

I know because I made a post about it on another board. I'm still trying to find the video.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
19. My ODP contacts told me she had a real political future in Ohio...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jul 2016

...and likely could have gotten a Convention speaking slot, getting her national attention.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
20. Jill Stein needs to drop out as well.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:44 PM
Jul 2016

No, Nader did not hand W the election.

But we are, for better or worse, a *two* party system. (Yeah, I'd like that changed - well, we were the prototype, and prototypes have their issues..)

Anybody who does anything to shift this election to Trump, or even has the appearance of doing so, has my deepest scorn.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
48. I disagree with your opinion. Nader handed Bush the election
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:33 AM
Aug 2016

If he had not run, Gore would have beaten Bush. My opinion. And I don't respect people who think otherwise after reviewing the facts. Thinking Nader wasn't a spoiler is the equivalent of believing Trump sacrificed a lot.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
65. Gore won.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:16 AM
Aug 2016

Nader didn't help, but he wasn't the nail in the coffin.

You "don't respect *people* who...."? Meaning me, I am forced to assume...? Ooooookaaaaay..... (Just idly wondering if I have some history with you I am not aware of, or if you just generally operate like that.)

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
74. Gore did not win. He was not President.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:55 AM
Aug 2016

He put together a coalition that had the potential to win. Nader acted as a spoiler and took enough votes for himself that Bush's voter role purge was effective.

I have no respect for Nader or people who minimize his deliberate acts to teach Democrats a lesson for not being, in Nader's case, Stalinist enough. I don't know if that is you. If you think Nader had no effect and wrote what you did to excuse him in any way, then it's you. But I don't know your motives. Nader was experienced, educated and smart enough to know exactly what he was doing: acting as a spoiler to keep the Democrats from getting a majority by drawing off votes in close states. He was a spoiler and intended to be a spoiler. And it got us eight years of George W. Bush.

Nader said he was running because there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans. Bullshit. He wasn't that stupid and naive.

He is a nasty, selfish man. Jill Stein is at least far too stupid to know that she working every day to try to siphon away votes to throw some states to Trump. Nader was far too smart to not know he was doing exactly that.

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TeamPooka

(24,226 posts)
42. Now she gets to bring change from the fringes instead of into the mainstream of the party.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:05 AM
Aug 2016

Good luck with that.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
50. I agree with nearly all of you here on this thread.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:04 AM
Aug 2016

I saw this coming a long long time ago. Shes's different politically, so is T.G...

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
51. If she thinks she is going to further "the movement" by going green....
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:06 AM
Aug 2016

Welllllll.......we know better. She is going to make a beeline to obscurity. If she hasn't already done so with her antics.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
52. Something happened to her.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:09 AM
Aug 2016

She use to be a normal person. I remember seeing her on television when she was in office. She is like a different person now.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
63. If that's the case, maybe it really is mental illness.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 06:41 AM
Aug 2016

People usually don't have a complete and sudden change of personality without something being medically wrong.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
70. What a selfish consideration.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

She has a great story of working hard, eventually finishing associate's bachelor's and master's degrees. She has been a strong advocate for women's reproductive health, victims of sexual assault, and the general labor movement.

It's sad to see her go this way because she will accomplish nothing by joining with the Green party. Her goal seems to raise her name recognition and popularity, but I hope she realizes there really isn't any coming back from this type of decision.

DinahMoeHum

(21,788 posts)
81. Let her go do it. . .she's not making anything happen anyway.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:19 AM
Aug 2016

Yes, Nina, we Bernie Sanders voters in the primaries can quit you.


 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
82. I found her argumentative, negative and abrasive from day one.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:21 AM
Aug 2016

Let her join the party of the pissed off. It seems to make sense.

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
87. Sigh
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:49 AM
Aug 2016

Some of the harshest judgments and comments against a woman candidate like HRC come from other women.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
92. Ignoring a hernia long enough can earn you a bout of sepsis and a colostomy bag.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:46 PM
Aug 2016

Or George W. Bush. To hell with that.

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