2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJill Stein mimics RW talking points
She is every bit of a danger to progressives and liberals and the Democratic Party as a whole, as Donald Trump is.
She should absolutely be criticized and called out on it. She is an opponent of ours. Anyone who would vote for Stein is only helping tRump.
we can do it
(13,024 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Frances
(8,588 posts)But I lost my innocence in the 2000 election
DFW
(60,180 posts)RW talking points resonate with the ignorant and the angry, and they work--with a certain kind of mentality anyway. If Jill Stein finds traction with that crowd, and somehow manages to increase her followers from what appears to be a tiny sliver of voters to a greater share by peeling them off the extreme right, fine with me.
If she can convince 2% of Trump voters to become Stein voters, I doubt you'll hear the Clinton camp whining either.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)that would be fine.
The problem is that she is actively looking for angry voters who lean left, and have bought into the RW smears about Hillary Clinton.
She is not an ally to progressive causes. She is intentionally trying to disrupt and depress our electorate.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)One must have significance in order to be dangerous. Stein is a blessing to the Democratic Party. Concern would be if the Green Party had a competent leader. They do not.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)Democratic Party, and is actively smearing our candidate is a danger. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump. The media is also bending over backwards to give her airtime to campaign against Hillary.
She is not a blessing, she is not an ally, she is an opponent and should be treated as such.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Johnson will pull more.
Trump is more significant by far. I believe focusing our efforts on him is the way to go. We will be able to suppress his turnout at an exponentially higher rate than going after Stein. Suppressing her voters is completely insignificant. Do you see that suppressing her turnout has absolutely no bearing on Clinton at all. Her voters are not voting for Clinton.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)our Democratic candidate with RW talking points must be taken to task.
All politicians who are enabling tRump must be taken to task.
That includes Jill Stein.
We are at a time when our party is trying to unite, and Jill Stein is actively seeking to disrupt that by attempting to woo Bernie Sanders, and now Nina Turner, in order to gain supporters.
She obviously won't gain a significant share of votes, but every vote for her is indeed a vote for tRump. Every vote matters. We simply can't take any chances on a potential tRump win.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Still, screw the anti-vaxxer.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)but I will take on anyone who is actively campaigning against the Democratic Party. It doesn't have to be a one or the other, it's all of them. But yeah, especially tRump.
mcar
(46,055 posts)deserves all the criticism he or she gets - and then some.
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